Is life on earth just an accident?

[iwanttodie019]

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[GodChallengesMe]

Nobody knows literally.

 

[iwanttodie019]

Nobody knows literally.

Then what is it?

 

[GodChallengesMe]

Then what is it?

Nobody knows literally, me myself included.

 

[ZwartHartje]

I don't think so, it's way too complex to have arisen by accident. I think it's the purpose of this physical universe to bring forth life, and there's probably plenty of life in other solar systems too. Going through this physical manifestation may be a stage that is necessary for conscious beings to fully comprehend "being".

 

[Fadenself00_]

You could look up cellular automata like Conway's Game of Life. It beautifully showcases the concept of "Emergence" and that will partly answer your question.

 

[GodChallengesMe]

I don't think so, it's way too complex to have arisen by accident. I think it's the purpose of this physical universe to bring forth life, and there's probably plenty of life in other solar systems too. Going through this physical manifestation may be a stage that is necessary for conscious beings to fully comprehend "being".

I like this interpretation of existence and think that it most certainly should be like that given how things are.

 

[Canto XIII]

I don't think so, it's way too complex to have arisen by accident. I think it's the purpose of this physical universe to bring forth life, and there's probably plenty of life in other solar systems too. Going through this physical manifestation may be a stage that is necessary for conscious beings to fully comprehend "being".

This you?

 

[Tobacco]

I think there's a high chance that we are just an accident. I don't know what's worse, our existence having meaning or no meaning.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

yes . life is just chemical reactions. a human is cells. cells are machines chemical reactions. a human is a machine and chemical reactions.

chemical reactions happened and this abomination called DNA based life evolved from self replicating molecules.

life is the worst horror.

imagine just brain cells but they connect in such a way as to create a self that can suffer unending constant continuous unbearable pain . that's what i am .

this is the kind of pain every brain can generate.

picture a giant steel sheet like a griddle . large fire underneath so it's scalding hot metal hotter than a stove

what would be worth placing your hand flat on 900 degree hot scalding metal .

you'd place it but you would immediately pull back the pain is so great so the hand might be in contact with the red hot metal only a fraction of a second. but the pain would be excruciating even though it was only for a split second.

but what if you agreed and some gang forced you to hold your hand against that scalding hot metal . 10 seconds of that unbearable pain would be unimaginable and not worth any pleasure garbage .

what about the whole skin of the entire body bare against that red hot metal ? what would be worth 10 seconds of that continuous pain? 60 seconds ? 5 minutes? 14 hours ,

to me nothing is worth even 1 second of that pain that is being put on that bed of extremely hot steel .

what about the whole skin of the entire body bare against that red hot metal ? what would be worth 10 seconds of that continuous pain? 60 seconds ? 5 minutes? 14 hours ,
weeks ? months of that constant continuous unbearable pain every second of those months?

a human is a machine. but if you put a computer or car on that sheet these won't suffer. also if a dead animal is put on there won't feel a thing.

a human or animal that is alive would be tortured extremely . that is the difference between life and other things .

 

[iwanttodie019]

yes . life is just chemical reactions. a human is cells. cells are machines chemical reactions. a human is a machine and chemical reactions.

but life is the worst horror.

imagine just brain cells but they connect in such a way as to create a self that can suffer unending constant continuous unbearable pain .

this is the kind of pain every brain can generate.

picture a giant steel sheet like a griddle . large fire underneath so it's scalding hot metal hotter than a stove

what would be worth placing your hand flat on 900 degree hot scalding metal .

you'd place it but you would immediately pull back the pain is so great so the hand might be in contact with the red hot metal only a fraction of a second. but the pain would be excruciating even though it was only for a split second.

but what if you agreed and some gang forced you to hold your hand against that scalding hot metal . 10 seconds of that unbearable pain would be unimaginable and not worth any pleasure garbage .

what about the whole skin of the entire body bare against that red hot metal ? what would be worth 10 seconds of that continuous pain? 60 seconds ? 5 minutes? 14 hours ,

to me nothing is worth even 1 second of that pain that is being put on that bed of extremely hot steel .

what about the whole skin of the entire body bare against that red hot metal ? what would be worth 10 seconds of that continuous pain? 60 seconds ? 5 minutes? 14 hours ,
weeks ? months of that constant continuous unbearable pain every second of those months?

a human is a machine. but if you put a computer or car on that sheet these won't suffer. also if a dead animal is put on there won't feel a thing.

a human or animal that is alive would be tortured extremely . that is the difference between life and other things .

1 second of extreme pain is not so bad but imagine if a sadistic psychopath holds you captive for his pleasure,bro that's worse than any hell imaginable

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

1 second of extreme pain is not so bad but imagine if a sadistic psychopath holds you captive for his pleasure,bro that's worse than any hell imaginable

what you describe happened to many like Junko Furuta. how many are being tortured now in some basements ?

no one can imagine how bad it would be to be put in the brazen bull for even 1 second or dropped like i described on giant bed of red hot steel the whole bare skin against red hot steel .

and i described this as constant continuing every second for months.

my point is only living conscious sentient humans or animals can suffer constant unbearable pain. rocks, other machines, dead animals can't. that's the only difference i see between life and other machines or rocks.

everything is chemistry and physics, made of the same atoms. but to me that's the only significant difference .

but they have everyone thinking this horror called life is some beautiful gift and mystery that we need to worship and wonder about .

 

[ZwartHartje]

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This you?

Lol... Who is that?

 

[iwanttodie019]

what you describe happened to many like Junko Furuta. how many are being tortured now in some basements ?

no one can imagine how bad it would be to be put in the brazen bull for even 1 second or dropped like i described on giant bed of red hot steel the whole bare skin against red hot steel .

and i described this as constant continuing every second for months.

my point is only living conscious sentient humans or animals can suffer constant unbearable pain. rocks, other machines, dead animals can't. that's the only difference i see between life and other machines or rocks.

everything is chemistry and physics, made of the same atoms. but to me that's the only significant difference .

but they have everyone thinking this horror called life is some beautiful gift and mystery that we need to worship and wonder about .

that's what i was thinking.I am sitting here from the comfort of my room typing this.There are an estimated 8 billion humans currently .So I wonder how many of them are held captive in someone's basement for their amusement.Scary thought.No one really knows

 

[FuneralCry]

Yes, it truly is, I'll always see existence as the most terrible, cruel mistake that just causes all this cruelty, pain and suffering with no limit as to how much agony one can feel, to suffer in this existence will just always be an abomination to me and it's so terrible how this existence was imposed at all.

No matter what I'll just always prefer to not exist than suffer in this cruel, torturous existence, it truly is so terrible to exist, all that existence ever does is just torture existing beings and the suffering of existing truly is endless, in this existence of torturous suffering non-existence is just all I could see as positive but of course I never should had suffered at all.

 

[Canto XIII]

Lol... Who is that?

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, 19th century German philosopher and one of the most important thinkers in the Western tradition, who basically said what you did.

He argued that the history of the Being (what he called the Spirit) had for its goal and conclusion the self-knowledge of the Being itself through its highest stage, that is man. Of course this self-realisation perfectly coincides with his own philosophy.

Going there by yourself is pretty good thinking. You're into philosophy?

 

[ZwartHartje]

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, 19th century German philosopher and one of the most important thinkers in the Western tradition, who basically said what you did.

He argued that the history of the Being (what he called the Spirit) had for its goal and conclusion the self-knowledge of the Being itself through its highest stage, that is man. Of course this self-realisation perfectly coincides with his own philosophy.

Going there by yourself is pretty good thinking. You're into philosophy?

I sure heard of him but never really read him. I've always been trying to make sense of why I'm here and what the true nature of existence is, but have to admit I never read anything much by the great, classical philosophers like him.
I have to very vehemently disagree with him on Man being the "highest stage" though! For one, that's speciesist, and also, Man is the only animal responsible for 100% of all kinds of pollution and environmental degradation, the only one enslaving and exploiting others (and that on absolutely massive scale), the only species solely to blame for the extinction of thousands of others. In my opinion that's hardly a "highest stage" of anything but corruption, it's rather a cancer on the Earth's biosphere.

 

[Canto XIII]

I sure heard of him but never really read him. I've always been trying to make sense of why I'm here and what the true nature of existence is, but have to admit I never read anything much by the great, classical philosophers like him.
I have to very vehemently disagree with him on Man being the "highest stage" though! For one, that's speciesist, and also, Man is the only animal responsible for 100% of all kinds of pollution and environmental degradation, the only one enslaving and exploiting others (and that on absolutely massive scale), the only species solely to blame for the extinction of thousands of others. In my opinion that's hardly a "highest stage" of anything but corruption, it's rather a cancer on the Earth's biosphere.

Yes, Hegel's philosophy is very anthropocentric, but it's kinda coherent within itself: man is the last stage of the Spirit because he's the only creature who can understand the Spirit itself (also, I have some doubts about humans being the only animals exploiting others). I'm not very knowledgeable about philosophy either. though.

 

[starboy2k]

from what I was told a few years ago……apparently my life on earth was an accident.

 

[3rdworldsadness]

I will say 'random' outside life, the universe, planets and everything in existence is just random and breaking this randomness is freedom to me.

 

[Agnes Tachyon]

yes. according to entropy.

 

[iwanttodie019]

yes. according to entropy.

Entropy dictates that all life on earth will one day end since life is a low entropy system

 

[Awesomefoid67]

probably, honestly its pretty cool how everything all accidentally fell into place to create life and managed to make what are basically biological computers powerful enough to get to this point

 

[callmer]

I hope not. I hope there is a meaning to all of this, perhaps a better existence after death too. At least then we won't have suffered for no reason.

 

[HNR_]

I think so

After all, the universe is infinite so it's a monkey with a typewriter type of thing but with an infinite amount of monkeys and typewriters, it was never a question of whether of not it could/couldn't have happened but a matter of when it would
At least that's what I think