Is jumping painless?

[Suicideisnirvana]

You are correct. Yes, even the guillotine, a popular tool used during the French revolution that cuts your head off, as efficiently as possible, doesn't kill you instantly.

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For people who don't feel like reading the article above. It mentions that a Dr. Ron Wright believes you are alive for 13 seconds after your head gets cut off by a guillotine... That doesn't sound like much but it might feel like an eternity if you are in agonizing pain... Now imagine CTBing in a way that lets your brain stay alive for 5 minutes or longer after your body has been mutilated almost everywhere... I've seen such things happen... Not with my own eyes so don't worry. But from watching videos from this sub reddit that used to exist before too many people became butthurt by it's existence and had it shut down.

13 seconds is nothing, i'd sign for that in a heartbeat. Sure it may feel longer but not by that much, it's still a mere 13 seconds, and after that the feeling is over.

No suicide method is perfect. Even N tastes like crap and not everybody can get it because of either customs or lack of money. So when comparing suicide methods you'd have to take into account the alternatives, not compare it to some ideal inexistent suicide method. If you wanna discard any suicide method that isn't perfect you'll have to discard them all, and this is simply unacceptable for someone set on dying.

Really i'd take 13 seconds of suffering if death is guaranteed afterwards in a heartbeat.

Another thing you fail to consider is that death may be immediate, as in consciousness is interrupted, yet there are still some exterior/behavioral signs of life. The same way someone in a copa or deep sleep can move while steel feeling nothing from the inside.

 

[ImSorryEmma]

I recommend the grand canyon in Arizona, has a depth of over a mile deep in some spots, unless your god or something like that theres literally no chance of survival

 

[TimeToDie]

I recommend the grand canyon in Arizona, has a depth of over a mile deep in some spots, unless your god or something like that theres literally no chance of survival

What if you land on a cushy tree? The world record for longest survived fall (without a parachute) is 33,000 feet, so about 6 miles, and that young woman lived to a ripe old age after that with only a limp to show for her ordeal. There is literally no height from which a fall is 100% fatal. I know some people want to land on their head, though I'm not sure that it's even possible to control how you land.

 

[Jumper]

Do you think 12 stories (onto concrete) is high enough? Meaning 95%+ probability of death...

 

[sui3]

what do you think about jumping from cliffs? And what is the result if landing on sand? Will 100 meters still be enough? Is landing on cliffs always deadly, because it's stone? Would it be sufficient to jump from 130 meter cliffs? And it surely has to be straightup on the ground right?

 

[BridgeJumper]

Some people want to go overkill and only choose jumping spots over 150 meters. Im perfectly fine with a 40 meter bridge into concrete pavement. In my town, people have jumped from 10 meters less and none of them survived, so thats good enough for me. As for pain, probably depens how you land. If you go headfirst and crack your skull it will probably hurt less than feetfirst / backfirst with all the bones dislocated and some time alive after the jump. But not everyone has enough balls to do this. I think you should avoid anything under 50 meters over water, maybe 65 - 70 just to make sure ( Golden Gate is 72m and 98% death rate, although 38 - 45 meters into water have caused death). Stay away from sand cause it softens the fall and you just get embdded into the ground. You could survive if the water is not deep enough to cover your head and make you drown, thats how people survived jumping without a parachute. Hope I helped :)

 

[Cook]

You are correct. Yes, even the guillotine, a popular tool used during the French revolution that cuts your head off, as efficiently as possible, doesn't kill you instantly.

French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars

Fought between 1792 and 1815, the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars consumed Western Europe. Discover more about the history of these conflicts, including the various coalitions of Britain, Prussia, Austria, Russia, and Portugal, and the rise and fall of Napoleon Bonaparte.

www.thoughtco.com

For people who don't feel like reading the article above. It mentions that a Dr. Ron Wright believes you are alive for 13 seconds after your head gets cut off by a guillotine... That doesn't sound like much but it might feel like an eternity if you are in agonizing pain... Now imagine CTBing in a way that lets your brain stay alive for 5 minutes or longer after your body has been mutilated almost everywhere... I've seen such things happen... Not with my own eyes so don't worry. But from watching videos from this sub reddit that used to exist before too many people became butthurt by it's existence and had it shut down.

Even from jumping from the new river gorge ?!?

 

[toomuchgrief]

I don't know if jumping is painless. But I would chose the highest bridge just to be safe, make sure you crush when you hit bottom concrete.

My bridge, this is the tallest bridge in the U.S., Royal Gorge Bridge in Colorado. Clearance below of 1,000 feet (300 meters).

Here the pic, isn't it a beauty?
About 21 suicide deaths there already, and NONE survive. Surely you can't survive if you hit those rocks and hit the bottom concrete/or that shallow river. Let hope it instant death and won't hurt long.

 

[been__ready]

70 meters into water, there's still a chance of survival. 5% of jumpers survived the Golden Gate Bridge. If I jump it's going to be from the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge in NM - 600', no suicide nets, zero chance of survival.

I flew halfway across the country to CTB from Rio Grande Gorge Bridge. Ultimately couldn't do it bc of SI. This thread is old but people (like me) are still using it as w source. Here is my more about my experience -

Dear SS friends,

I want to start by saying how thankful I am for this forum and community. When I feel I have lost everyone and everything - it is the only thing that has kept me going for months.

Even though I only recently "officially" joined I have been silently participating by observing, empathizing, and taking guidance from the forum.

How I wish we could meet in person.

So many of us share common pain and suffering.

I often wonder what it would've been like to have been born into a family/circle that understands/holds me the way I feel understood/held by the shared experiences of this community.

I wanted to share my experience in the hopes that it may help someone else make an informed choice…and also because I haven't seen much listed about the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge in Taos, New Mexico on the site.. so I wanted to provide some insight…

I am a 38 year old female from the Southeast US. I have bipolar and BPD, and after my first impulsive attempt (suffocation) failed and resulted in a hospital stay that made my mental health worse - I vowed I would thoroughly research my next attempt.

I'm sad to say I've failed again..

I chose the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge in New Mexico because I felt it was a viable option for various reasons:

1) No tall fencing - fencing is about 4 feet and pedestrians ARE allowed on the bridge openly.. it is one of the few bridges in the US where I found this to be the case - accessible fencing and pedestrian accessible!

It is quite easy to scale the fence if you are able to do so quickly AND get over SI

(which I ultimately wasn't for a number of reasons..)

Although it is a pedestrian bridge and I spent a lot of time looking over the rail calculating my fall.. it also means you are sharing space with a lot of other people/tourists, couples and families.. and the bridge is still pretty active to traffic. a least one car per minute crossing over if not more.

It was a lot more active than I anticipated.

There is also a nearby rest area that is quite busy with sightseers and vendors. That being said, despite numerous attempt visits at different times of day - I found it hard to scale the fence for fear of getting caught, traumatizing others, having enough time to get over SI.. etc

I also tried going at night with no one around but my SI wouldn't even let me get out of the car to get on the bridge. fml

2) Limited patrolling

They have a sad excuse for a security guard (who doesn't leave his car for his entire shift) at the nearby gorge rest station. Every time I passed him his head was down in his phone not paying attention to anything or anyone at all.

So basically no patrolling.. and even if they did see you trying to scale the fence, assuming you were quick enough - they wouldn't be able to get to you in time either on foot or by car.

Unless you hesitated of course… and got stuck half way through..

I visited the site no less than 7 times over a course of a week and no one - not the vendors selling items or the guard seemed to notice my coming and going, oftentimes multiple times a day wearing the same clothes..

3) Approved height (600 feet)..it's definitely high enough to CTB and there have been numerous fatalities over the years. I did a lot of research and although they have hidden some names I was able to find the names of some women around my age who I identified with.. I researched them, felt for them, left flowers at their memorials in understanding of our shared pain. One was a young mother of three…

- Taos is far from my family and everyone I know… I thought being far away would make it easier… I also love the stark beauty of New Mexico..

I did a lot of research on this option before choosing to fly half way across the country and yet I still couldn't bring myself to do it.

A note on SI while jumping - I wanted to share the absolutely horrific coming and goings of the mind.

This was the first time I experienced SI to this extent - it was wild.

I have read here that SI is the strongest when jumping and now I understand why.

Especially from a height of 600 feet, your brain and body KNOWS it's guaranteed to CTB.

For the entire day while at the airbnb, and even driving up to the bridge I would feel SO sure, SO committed that today was the day I would CTB!

For months before, I also looked up the bridge to familiarize myself with every aspect of it.. so that there wouldn't be any surprises.

I would remind myself over and over - for hours on end - of all of the failings in my life and how there is no hope for me except for a life of loneliness and pain..

OF course this was the time to CTB. I just had to find the short window to do it in! Get a grip damnit.

But then, as soon as I got on the bridge and looked over - my body would just FREEZE.. I kept thinking this would go away, the more I visited the site and desensitized myself to it.. or if I waited until just before sunset when it was relatively empty.. but that wasn't the case. In some cases it got worse..

The thoughts going through my head would range from -

- this is such a beautiful site, how could I possibly do this here? God is showing me how beautiful life is, can't you see? You want to live!

- this is absolutely terrifying what were you thinking flying half way across the country you fool.

- how can you be so selfish and do this and traumatize others..especially families
with young children..

- think about the first responders and others that will be impacted by this.

- you are going to experience absolute terror every second on the way down which may feel like an eternity (from what I've read)

- you will never be released from your earthly suffering and will be damned to hell and repeated experience of falling to death for the rest of eternity (fear of judgement from God)

And then as soon as I would leave the bridge I would be determined to return the next day and try again… after day 7, I decided it was time to regroup and go home.

I am now looking into SN as a more humane way to CTB, I wish I had looked into it earlier but it seemed to be quite difficult to locate and requiring a lot of moving parts to get right. And I was running out of time - so jumping did seem like the right option at the time.

If I attempt jumping again, it will have to be at a much quieter location (Navajo Bridge in the US is another consideration), or from the balcony of a very tall hotel room.. where I have privacy if I hesitate and won't be detained..

I am now flying back home to regroup and figure out what my next attempt will be.

This was long, I know. I hope it helps someone contemplating the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge..and jumping in general.