Is it just me or does anyone else feel like you don't have to be depressed to ctb?

[Viceroy]

I genuinely don't feel sad or depressed I just want to die because of how much damage has been done to my life. Why is there an obsession in the medical world about thinking that suicide must be due to depression?

Has anyone failed an attempt? Did you HAVE to go to the pysch ward and did they FORCE a diagnosis of depression on you and make you take drugs even though you attempted suicide for reasons other than depression?

 

[woxihuanni]

My reason is not depression, either. It is that I am forced into impossible circumstances.

It is gaslighting is what it is, if your life is so destroyed that you are not fine with its ruins, then you must be cray cray and not entitled to decide what you consent to or not. Makes it easy for everyone.

 

[BeHope]

Yes, yes, and yes.

I just want to die because I don't want to burden my family with all my panic attacks anymore. That and I'm pretty disillusioned with this life in general. I want to know what's on the other side, if anything. But when you're suicidal, no one cares to think that you're still the rational you you've always been -- you're automatically depressed or insane or whatever word explains away your feelings. Really annoying. I secretly stopped taking my depression medication about a week after I got them and everyone pretends that I'm so much better now like, guys, I'm just trying not to get hospitalised again.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

Yes. People kill themselves ultimately because of pain, and that pain is caused/comes from different sources. It is not always a mental illness that pushes someone over the edge; you have to look at other (external) factors too: did they have a strong support network? Were they being abused? Did they have a sufficient income to live off of? And so on... The list is almost endless.

Labelling everyone who is suicidal as "depressed" is a lazy blanket diagnosis and it ignores the bigger picture. It also prevents a suicidal person from discussing what is really making them feel the way that they do. How is someone supposed to talk about their problems when anything that they say is invalidated, because they are viewed as insane?

 

[SHThrowAway213]

I get exactly what you mean.
I really want to CTB but in no way depressed.
I was when I was a teenager, but not anymore.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

It's not necessary to be depressed to ctb. See Mitchell Heisman case. He wasn't depressed. He just knew how pointless life is, wrote his famous suicide note (1905 pages long) and shot himself.

 

[Nightmare92]

I am depressed, but that's not the only reason why I think about CTB. My mood has changes and sometimes it's a little bit better. Sometimes I just feel neutral (not depressed). Depression could be treated maybe. That's not the reason in the end. I have different problems which can't be solved. Also I find no reason to live at all. There is just nothing to live for.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

thats the thing. when people are majorly depressed sometimes they don't even have the energy or drive to do it. when someone is manic or completely numb, it makes it easier to think more clearly and go through with it. at least thats how it feels for me.

 

[MrBlue]

I think I'm probably situationally suicidal, rather than clinically depressed. If I was as capable as a normal person and could improve my life then I don't think I'd want to die. I guess people assume everyone who is suicidal is depressed is because they can't emphathise with it, so they presume someone's head must be messed up.

When I was stopped in my last proper attempt, I was threatened with sectioning if I didn't go home and basically get out of their hair essentially. Though I imagine COVID and the fact I am not really a priority for treatment was a factor in that decision.

 

[NextSummer]

I am clearly not depressed. My reason is threat of homelessness. I think it's one of the worst thing a person can endure and I think it's a good non-depressive reason to ctb. I think even people with chronic pain have at least a home and a warm bed.

 

[Viceroy]

I am clearly not depressed. My reason is threat of homelessness. I think it's one of the worst thing a person can endure and I think it's a good non-depressive reason to ctb. I think even people with chronic pain have at least a home and a warm bed.

I have a chronic illness which causes tormenting, consistent feelings of choking. I never get a min peace from it. Its one of the main reasons I want to die. Not trying to minimize homelessness but dealing with never ending discomfort/pain is really awful cause its not just pain, its all that it ruins and takes which is more than you ever thought it could. I basically cant move or eat without it getting even worse and speaking is hard, which means I cant do any exercise, no socialization at all, cant move or eat anything without being punished. Sleeping is very hard too cause its so distracting. Its an all round mess and its something that im somehow supposed to live with for the rest of my life. I cant even have the peace to read a book or do anything simple of my interests, so it basically takes away your personality from you as well.

Ive found myself saying 'i'd rather be homeless than have this' and I truly mean it. Of course im not homeless... a homeless person would equally say 'I'd rather be chronically ill than be homeless'. Both are very bad things! Im sorry about your situation hope things get better for you.

 

[NextSummer]

Ive found myself saying 'i'd rather be homeless than have this' and I truly mean it. Of course im not homeless... a homeless person would equally say 'I'd rather be chronically ill than be homeless'. Both are very bad things! Im sorry about your situation hope things get better for you.

I understand that you suffer that much. Maybe it was wrong to compare these two because they are equally bad in it's own form. All the best to you, I hope it gets better

 

[Mellowmood]

I genuinely don't feel sad or depressed I just want to die because of how much damage has been done to my life. Why is there an obsession in the medical world about thinking that suicide must be due to depression?

Has anyone failed an attempt? Did you HAVE to go to the pysch ward and did they FORCE a diagnosis of depression on you and make you take drugs even though you attempted suicide for reasons other than depression?

Hard to tell, we are irrational beings trying to be rational

 

[TooConscious]

I feel if I had been given a break in life, a space from pain and suffering then I wouldn't have been hanging on so tight all these years it's as if Im subconsciously demanding answers for what has been nothing but pain feeling as if I'm a victim of a sadistic game for others amusement.

 

[I screwed up]

Agree .. U may be suicidal and not depressed .. I have been suicidal for more longer than depressed ..

 

[demuic]

I don't even know what depression is.

 

[peacechoice]

Yes, yes, and yes.

I just want to die because I don't want to burden my family with all my panic attacks anymore. That and I'm pretty disillusioned with this life in general. I want to know what's on the other side, if anything. But when you're suicidal, no one cares to think that you're still the rational you you've always been -- you're automatically depressed or insane or whatever word explains away your feelings. Really annoying. I secretly stopped taking my depression medication about a week after I got them and everyone pretends that I'm so much better now like, guys, I'm just trying not to get hospitalised again.

Omg you are brave. If I ever have to go on them I'll just do that.

I have a chronic illness which causes tormenting, consistent feelings of choking. I never get a min peace from it. Its one of the main reasons I want to die. Not trying to minimize homelessness but dealing with never ending discomfort/pain is really awful cause its not just pain, its all that it ruins and takes which is more than you ever thought it could. I basically cant move or eat without it getting even worse and speaking is hard, which means I cant do any exercise, no socialization at all, cant move or eat anything without being punished. Sleeping is very hard too cause its so distracting. Its an all round mess and its something that im somehow supposed to live with for the rest of my life. I cant even have the peace to read a book or do anything simple of my interests, so it basically takes away your personality from you as well.

Ive found myself saying 'i'd rather be homeless than have this' and I truly mean it. Of course im not homeless... a homeless person would equally say 'I'd rather be chronically ill than be homeless'. Both are very bad things! Im sorry about your situation hope things get better for you.

Yes, I am so sorry that you are going through this. I know that pain just takes things away from you! I know what it's like. My sympathies. I hope one day we can leave this discomfort that no one will ever understand.

 

[Lordsudbury]

When I was in the deepest depths of depression, regret, guilt and ideation I couldn't do anything because I was so fucked in the head.

Does anyone know that feeling? Total psychosis and paralyzed...brain inflammation like it feels like it's on electric fire? 24 hour panic attacks?

Now that my head's a bit more clear I'm in a new state of depression, but one I can think and move within. It's still gripping, but now I can take the steps to CTB in a sane and calculated manner.

 

[FlyMe2TheMoon]

hmm.
I do have depression, but a lot of times, my urges to ctb arent because I am depressed, but because of other wild mental illness shit.
A lot of times I have the urge to do it just for fun, to see what would happen. Other times it has to do with the stress of life. My brain likes to go "Got an upcoming problem? Avoid it with death." a lot.