Is hell a real place?

[AnotherTragicName]

"Maybe this planet is another world's hell." - Aldous Huxley

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

*Opens gate to my basement*

*Points toward the piss bottles*

*Points toward the cum station*

 

[samsaragothands]

i was raised hindu and never really grew up with a concept of hell— instead, there's the idea that you'll be reincarnated over and over until you reach enlightenment. life is just a transitional period, and it's worse for some people and better for others. by that logic, you could make the argument that both hell and heaven are the same place, here, and that a combination of the cards you've been dealt (in hinduism, karma) with the person you are decides which one it is for you in the moment.

 

[Ta555]

No. It was never in the original Bible. The place that got twisted into hell was Gehenna which was a literal garbage dump and an evil place where children had been sacrificed to another god. So when the Bible talks about the burning and shit it's talking about a literal place, a garbage dump where they burnes garbage. And then people with too much imagination took that and ran with it making it into some spiritual realm.

 

[lonerclown666]

will evil people and normal people go the same place? we dont know but hell is the pain that we suffer in this world

 

[DanWhoLikesPie]

Hell is a life without purpose. Our religions are merely metaphors.

 

[gr1lledcheese]

No. It was never in the original Bible. The place that got twisted into hell was Gehenna which was a literal garbage dump and an evil place where children had been sacrificed to another god. So when the Bible talks about the burning and shit it's talking about a literal place, a garbage dump where they burnes garbage. And then people with too much imagination took that and ran with it making it into some spiritual realm.

My rabbi once joked that he knew the zip code.

 

[Ta555]

My rabbi once joked that he knew the zip code.

He probably does!!

 

[StarryStarry]

Hell is living now. If you mean after you die, that is for religious fanatics - I am an atheist. I don't believe any of that garbage.

 

[Ta555]

Hell is living now. If you mean after you die, that is for religious fanatics - I am an atheist. I don't believe any of that garbage.

Hi-5!

 

[Onkyo74893]

My rabbi once joked that he knew the zip code.

Which three numbers did it start with?

 

[StarryStarry]

Hi-5!

Hey T - how are you doing?

 

[Ta555]

Hey T - how are you doing?

Not great. Really want to ctb. Just scared of full suspension not working. Even though there's no reason it shouldn't but you know how it is... How are you?

 

[StarryStarry]

Not great. Really want to ctb. Just scared of full suspension not working. Even though there's no reason it shouldn't but you know how it is... How are you?

let's pm

 

[gr1lledcheese]

Which three numbers did it start with?

If you're seriously asking me, I don't know. The place called Gehenna in the Bible is a physical place, but is often interpreted as Hell. The place is now called the Valley of Hinnom, and it is situated S/SW of Jerusalem.

 

[little helpers]

is consciousness a real thing?
(this is the first time I find myself hating philosophy)

 

[FuneralCry]

Many people say that this life is hell and I agree. Existence is suffering. The fact that such great potential for pain exists is a horrifying thought. To me, it is hell being alive as it is so difficult to leave this life. If suicide was easier, I would not have to put up with this life in the first place. However I do not believe that there is anything after death, there is no evidence of any hell after this. I think after this life there is non existence. Death is true peace and freedom from all suffering.

 

[Someone123]

What makes you think God is just?

That is a tough question, whether God, if there is one, is just. Of course some people have horrible lives and some people have amazing lives, so that is very unjust. But if we are given free will (and there are of course debates about this) then possibly in this physical world these different outcomes may be unavoidable- this is a lot easier to accept when you are one of the l;ucky ones than when you are one of the unlucky ones.

 

[StarryStarry]

That is a tough question, whether God, if there is one, is just. Of course some people have horrible lives and some people have amazing lives, so that is very unjust. But if we are given free will (and there are of course debates about this) then possibly in this physical world these different outcomes may be unavoidable- this is a lot easier to accept when you are one of the l;ucky ones than when you are one of the unlucky ones.

Re: free will - what about all the children that are killed - are they using their free will to choose to be killed? Don't think so. Free will is a religious term - religion is for people who are afraid to meet their life with the truth - that life sucks. THe majority of people who have good lives do so through money - whether it be legitimate or non. I honestly feel sorry for people who have to hang onto some fairy in the sky to get through life. I'd rather face it head on and then ctb. Sorry for the rant ...

 

[Applebees]

Curious to see what some of those Scholars have to say? Thanks.

Hell as an actual place of eternal torment most likely does not exist. Even in Christianity, the most biblically supported interpretation is annihilationism, which is the idea that nonbelievers simply cease to exist. There are a few other interpretations as well. The concept of hell doesn't have much philosophical support these days either, considering that it's nearly impossible to reconcile the orthodox view of God as that of a morally perfect being with eternal torment for several reasons.

 

[Someone123]

Re: free will - what about all the children that are killed - are they using their free will to choose to be killed? Don't think so.

Free will doesn't mean that a person chooses everything that happens to them. Let's say some children are killed by a mass shooter, does that mean that they exercised their free will for this to happen? Of course not. But the person who shot them exercised their free will to shoot them. Free will doesn't mean that every person chooses every single thing that happens in their life?Not at all. A child might be killed by a tornado or an earthquake- does anyone choose this? No of course not. Free will does not mean that you choose every single thing that happens in your l,ife, but you are still able to make many choices in your life, depending on your circumstances. Babies for instance don't make many choices about what happens in their life, but they make some- whether to willingly eat a certain food or not, whether to play with a toy or not, etc. Free will definitely does not mean that a person chooses everything that happens to them since other people have free will also and other people's decisions will affect you.

 

[*Justanotherone*]

I don't know if the hell as an option in afterlife exists. I don't know if any afterlife exists too. But I can imagine some state of mind that people experience are very real.
If you are in your private hell, I feel you and I'm sorry. I deeply hope you'll get better ❤

 

[Chiisai]

I believe we make this world and our lives into either heaven or hell.

It is also a matter of perception and expectations. What was a hell for me at a time now looks like absolute heaven after in my ignorance and denial (of my own issues) I kept looking for something else. It's as if satan gave me all the opportunities then to explore these other avenues in life and I failed to appreciate any of them... having deep down the memory of my heaven, which I could not then appreciate.

I spent the last 2 years in a violent delusional state lined with suicidal depression and hell for me is reliving this life over and over again until I stop making the same mistakes. I could be free, only in this life I found a person who made it all go away and I cannot let go – she, and the promise of our life together has been everything for me.

The only two ways out of this hell would be building a life on my own where I don't need other people to validate me and give me permission to live or letting her go. The first I have not been equipped for in my childhood and learnt too late to parent myself, the second is not an option – in my wildest imagination a life with her is the heaven I had always wanted.

So yes, hell is a very real place for me. It is here, it has been my life, in all its 1000(s?) of iterations. I know I added some energy to this cycle this time around. Was it enough?

Finally, I am convinced that the reason for my cycling in this one lifetime is the suicide I commit at the end of it. I feel like I am just about past the point it usually happened in my life. I hope that I will not discover next time around that I only prolonged the misery by a few days and that I will actually wake up at that age of 25 when I had everything within reach, accepting my childhood, forgiving myself and opening up to the world and this woman who loved me and believed in me beyond measure at that time.

I really fucked up, half aware, yet responsible for it all. This is hell – feeling responsible for your own downfall. Pain, guilt, shame, humiliation and the absolutely debilitating grief.

But at the end of the day – I would go through it all again, just to have another chance at being with this person I love and hopefully making this world a better place together.

Hell is wanting something you can never have. Especially if against all odds you managed to get it and lost it. There are no dreams or hopes left after that.

This is fascinating. I am really curious as to where our consciousness goes after CTB and have a lot of theories for it; one of it being what you mentioned that we will be in a loop. Why I think so is because of deja vu.

 

[Flying Away]

NO

 

[Versailles]

If hell existed, every individual that is there is a proof that God is a failure.

 

[tieiwi]

I don't know and I don't care, if it is real then sucks for me. I'll deal with the consequences as they come.

 

[motel rooms]

That is a tough question, whether God, if there is one, is just. Of course some people have horrible lives and some people have amazing lives, so that is very unjust. But if we are given free will (and there are of course debates about this) then possibly in this physical world these different outcomes may be unavoidable

It's a tough question only for people who can't stop clinging to the idea that it's impossible for God to be unjust. What kind of a just deity would create beings with the ability to choose evil over good & make life unfair? Who created evil as a possible outcome in the first place in this antiquated model, the puny little created human beings or the all-powerful Creator? This is elementary school stuff...

 

[FeraD]

not sure anymore

 

[Death is beautiful]

Personally, I do not believe in the concept of hell, just like heaven, I think after death we are waiting for eternal nothingness

 

[Someone123]

Re: free will - what about all the children that are killed - are they using their free will to choose to be killed? Don't think so.

If children are killed it is often by someone else who has free will who is in a mor powerful position than they are in at the moment and they do something terrible. Having free will doesn't mean they are omnipotent- those are two different things.