Discussion Is F*nt*nyl The Secret To The PERFECT CTB?

[Illegal Preclear]

I spend a lot of time brainstorming about the PERFECT CTB method. Even if it's something my Disabled rear end might not have access to - I'd feel very good knowing I spent the end of my life giving folks here ideas on the ever coveted Perfect Method. My thoughts turned to F*nt*nyl (which henceforth will be referred to as Fnt) when I kept stumbling upon things about it. First I heard one of my favorite actors (Angus Cloud) died of an accidental OD.

One huge factor I consider when brainstorming methods is "Is this method so deadly that people have died with it by accident?"

SO MANY people have died by Fnt ACCIDENTALLY that it's among the leading causes of death (I believe in 2022 it was THE leading cause of death).

Then I stumbled upon several articles informing that Fnt is SO DEADLY it is now replacing Pentobarbitol as the drug used in Lethal Injection Executions in Nebraska and Nevada. Article here: "Is Fnt A Humane Method of Execution?"

Really let that sink in: Fnt. is OUTPERFORMING the actual drug used in Euthanasia and Execution in efficacy and humaneness.

The article asks - "Is Fnt. a HUMANE way of carrying out the Death Penalty?" To which I personally respond a resounding YES. Why? I've scoured the internet for Fnt. overdose stories - accidental ODs that were brought back by Narcan at the last minute. They all say the same thing:

"I took the drug, and everything just went black."

Is that not the CTB experience we're all hoping for? The coveted zero pain, zero SI struggle, 'everything just goes black' death?

Now I have never used h*roin, let alone Fnt., but I am familiar with how opiates make you feel. I used to take Oxycodone when I was younger, but since started using Kratom, and I've been doing so for the last 11 years. Of course, Kratom is so weak an Opiate it doesn't even really bind to the Opiate receptors, but you still get that Opiate 'buzz'. So when I imagine what a death by Fnt. will be like - I just imagine the feeling of Kratom x10000 - and then everything goes black.

Ever see that scene in Breaking Bad where Jesse tries the H*roin and starts floating off the bed? I imagine it's like that - but with Fnt. you just float right into your grave.

NOW - I also stumbled upon something on Youtube last night out of pure happenstance - which is what prompted me to write this little essay on Fnt. The video was titled "The New Fnt. is Killing Drug Users in Europe." Video Here The video talks about Nitazenes - a drug EVEN DEADLIER than Fnt. that Fnt. is being cut with. And if you listen to the OD stories - they're the same: Everything just goes black.

I think this is all vital information to consider. Pentobarbitol is extremely hard to get because it's not flooding the streets like Fnt. is. I don't know how difficult SN is to get at the present time, but I think I can safely say that Fnt. is a quicker and easier death. The biggest drawback is of course Fnt. is obviously illegal to possess - but considering I've seen people on here going to lengths of traveling to Peru to get Pentobarbitol - I can't help but thing obtaining Fnt. has to be easier than that.

I still say that Firearms are the 'Gold Standard' when it comes to the Perfect CTB method, but if you're hellbent on having an open-casket funeral - Fnt. is a prime option.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Fentanyl isn't a secret. You don't need to replace letters with asterisks. Unless you want to of course. You don't even need to replace letters with asterisks in cuss words here. You should, though, use asterisks, or abbreviations of some sort, if you ever mention sources for substances, specific brand apparatus and equipment, that kind of thing. There's nothing wrong with what you're doing, just saying you don't have to.

 

[UKscotty]

Fentanyl is not some secret, its killing people across the world every day.

It is indeed one of the holy grails, but for it to be effective it needs to be IV.

 

[FuneralCry]

I really envy those with access to F, it sounds so peaceful and ideal, all that I wish for is to painlessly cease existing, it'd be such a relief for me if methods like that are available, those who are able to die in such a way are so fortunate to me.

 

[rotciv]

I think everyone has their own opinion of the perfect method.
Pentobarbital has more positive things than Fentanyl if we consider an intentional method, but Fentanyl is definitely a good method, but it has more risks than Pentobarbital.

 

[Illegal Preclear]

Fentanyl isn't a secret. You don't need to replace letters with asterisks. Unless you want to of course. You don't even need to replace letters with asterisks in cuss words here. You should, though, use asterisks, or abbreviations of some sort, if you ever mention sources for substances, specific brand apparatus and equipment, that kind of thing. There's nothing wrong with what you're doing, just saying you don't have to.

Ah, okay! I just didn't know all the rules here and was worried about names of explicitly illegal substances. I didn't think it was a secret that it was deadly - moreso the way it feels when it kills you - as in it's the perfect, painless "everything goes black" death many of us here are seeking. Death by overdose is more often than not a very painful, ugly affair. Even SN (this is just my personal opinion) I really don't think is peaceful. I read a fascinating post here where someone documented watching someone on here CTB via SN and while it certainly wasn't as bad as something like cyanide, it didn't seem painless. Plus - I suffer from Autoimmune issues that cause Hypoxia (unfortunately not enough to kill me) and from experience I know Hypoxia is a very uncomfortable feeling.

I really envy those with access to F, it sounds so peaceful and ideal, all that I wish for is to painlessly cease existing, it'd be such a relief for me if methods like that are available, those who are able to die in such a way are so fortunate to me.

It's really maddening. I used to have online friends who were opiate fiends who just knew where to get fentanyl! But they weren't suicidal at all. Of course, ODing on anything will always be a second or third choice for me, as my ultimate preferred method is via firearm. And I'm in the US - my Constitutional RIGHT to purchase a firearm was taken from me due to the fact I'm Disabled. Can't buy a gun (legally) due to the fact I'm Disabled. Don't have friends (which could lead to fent connections) ultimately because I'm Disabled.

I've already had two friends, one of them being my best friend in the world, CTB via firearms. I guess I'm a shittier person than them (which is true) so I deserve to die by something scarier.

Right now, if I wanted to CTB tonight - I have a quality rope with a slipknot I already tied into it tucked neatly next to my desk at all times. But I'm still holding out for a better method if I can access it.

I think everyone has their own opinion of the perfect method.
Pentobarbital has more positive things than Fentanyl if we consider an intentional method, but Fentanyl is definitely a good method, but it has more risks than Pentobarbital.

Could you explain the risks more? I know the chief risk is someone discovering you and administering Narcan - but is there a way to just...survive a massive fentanyl OD? Like a HUGE dose. Can you really just vomit it up and wake up? I'm talking perfect conditions where you have little to know hard opiate tolerance and a dose that is mathematically completely fatal for your bodyweight.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Ah, okay! I just didn't know all the rules here and was worried about names of explicitly illegal substances. I didn't think it was a secret that it was deadly - moreso the way it feels when it kills you - as in it's the perfect, painless "everything goes black" death many of us here are seeking. Death by overdose is more often than not a very painful, ugly affair. Even SN (this is just my personal opinion) I really don't think is peaceful. I read a fascinating post here where someone documented watching someone on here CTB via SN and while it certainly wasn't as bad as something like cyanide, it didn't seem painless. Plus - I suffer from Autoimmune issues that cause Hypoxia (unfortunately not enough to kill me) and from experience I know Hypoxia is a very uncomfortable feeling.

No issues. Just thought I'd point it out for future reference, might make things easier. Agree about SN, at least where I'm concerned. Not for me. But, with limited options available, I don't begrudge anyone for opting for it when choices are limited. It might be someone's only option. F (fentanyl, just shorthand, saves time) may be a good method. A lot of us just don't have any good way of obtaining it. And I'm really not a "drug person" anyway.

I think we should all be able to agree that the best method is the one that will work for the individual based on their own unique circumstances.

 

[AveMori]

You're right that opioids in general are given less credit as a CTB method than they deserve. Sadly, it's not easy to get them here and my veins are very hard to find, so I don't know if I would be able to find any blood vessel for administration. I decided for myself to use SN while taking so many benzos that I won't care about anything anymore. However, my ranking for the most ideal methods for my case would probably be barbiturates, opioids and then at third place SN. In any case, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. Reading perspectives like this is one of the reasons I love to hang out on this forum. I hope you will find a suitable method in time!

 

[ham and potatoes]

I really envy those with access to F, it sounds so peaceful and ideal

No doubt. I really doubt anyone will be able to find even remotely pure F, as most DNM don't allow F to be aold in em, and good luck finding some on the street that hasnt been cut with god knows what.

 

[rotciv]

Could you explain the risks more? I know the chief risk is someone discovering you and administering Narcan - but is there a way to just...survive a massive fentanyl OD? Like a HUGE dose. Can you really just vomit it up and wake up? I'm talking perfect conditions where you have little to know hard opiate tolerance and a dose that is mathematically completely fatal for your bodyweight.

I would not use fentanyl orally for several reasons, other routes of administration are more viable.

 

[minashatz]

Ξοδεύω πολύ χρόνο κάνοντας καταιγισμό ιδεών για τη μέθοδο PERFECT CTB. Ακόμα κι αν είναι κάτι στο οποίο το πίσω μέρος μου για άτομα με ειδικές ανάγκες μπορεί να μην έχει πρόσβαση - θα ένιωθα πολύ καλά γνωρίζοντας ότι πέρασα το τέλος της ζωής μου δίνοντας στους ανθρώπους εδώ ιδέες για την ποτέ πολυπόθητη Τέλεια Μέθοδο. Οι σκέψεις μου στράφηκαν στο F*nt*nyl (το οποίο στο εξής θα αναφέρεται ως Fnt) όταν συνέχισα να σκοντάφτω πάνω σε πράγματα σχετικά με αυτό. Πρώτα άκουσα ότι ένας από τους αγαπημένους μου ηθοποιούς (Angus Cloud) πέθανε από ατύχημα.

Ένας τεράστιος παράγοντας που λαμβάνω υπ' όψιν μου στις μεθόδους καταιγισμού ιδεών είναι "Είναι αυτή η μέθοδος τόσο θανατηφόρα που άνθρωποι έχουν πεθάνει μαζί της κατά λάθος;"

ΤΟΣΟ ΠΟΛΛΟΙ άνθρωποι έχουν πεθάνει από το Fnt ΤΥΧΑΙΑ που συγκαταλέγεται στις κύριες αιτίες θανάτου (πιστεύω ότι το 2022 ήταν η κύρια αιτία θανάτου).

Έπειτα έπεσα πάνω σε πολλά άρθρα που πληροφορούσαν ότι το Fnt είναι ΤΟΣΟ ΘΑΝΑΤΙΚΟ που τώρα αντικαθιστά την πεντοβαρβιτόλη ως το φάρμακο που χρησιμοποιείται στις Θανατηφόρες Εκτελέσεις Ενέσεων στη Νεμπράσκα και τη Νεβάδα. Άρθρο εδώ: "Είναι το Fnt μια ανθρώπινη μέθοδος εκτέλεσης;"

Πραγματικά αφήστε αυτό να βυθιστεί: Fnt. ΑΠΟΔΟΣΕΙΣ ΑΠΟΔΟΣΕΙΣ από το πραγματικό φάρμακο που χρησιμοποιείται στην Ευθανασία και την Εκτέλεση σε αποτελεσματικότητα και ανθρωπιά.

Το άρθρο ρωτά - "Είναι το Fnt. ένας ΑΝΘΡΩΠΙΝΟΣ τρόπος εκτέλεσης της θανατικής ποινής;" Στο οποίο προσωπικά απαντώ ένα ηχηρό ΝΑΙ. Γιατί; Έψαξα στο διαδίκτυο για Fnt. ιστορίες υπερβολικής δόσης - τυχαία OD που επιστράφηκαν από τον Narcan την τελευταία στιγμή. Όλοι λένε το ίδιο πράγμα:

«Πήρα το φάρμακο και όλα έγιναν μαύρα».

Δεν είναι αυτή η εμπειρία CTB που όλοι ελπίζουμε; Ο πολυπόθητος μηδενικός πόνος, ο αγώνας μηδενικού SI, ο θάνατος «όλα γίνονται μαύρα»;

Τώρα δεν έχω χρησιμοποιήσει ποτέ h*roin, πόσο μάλλον Fnt., αλλά γνωρίζω πώς σε κάνουν να νιώθεις τα οπιούχα. Παίρνω το Oxycodone όταν ήμουν νεότερος, αλλά από τότε που άρχισα να χρησιμοποιώ το Kratom, και το κάνω τα τελευταία 11 χρόνια. Φυσικά, το Kratom είναι τόσο αδύναμο ως οπιούχο που δεν συνδέεται καν με τους υποδοχείς οπιούχων, αλλά εξακολουθείτε να έχετε αυτό το «βουητό» των οπιούχων. Όταν λοιπόν φαντάζομαι τι θάνατος από το Fnt. θα είναι σαν - απλά φαντάζομαι την αίσθηση του Kratom x10000 - και μετά όλα γίνονται μαύρα.

Έχετε δει ποτέ εκείνη τη σκηνή στο Breaking Bad όπου ο Jesse δοκιμάζει το H*roin και αρχίζει να αιωρείται από το κρεβάτι; Φαντάζομαι ότι είναι έτσι - αλλά με Fnt. επιπλέεις ακριβώς στον τάφο σου.

ΤΩΡΑ - Κι εγώ έπεσα πάνω σε κάτι στο Youtube χθες το βράδυ από καθαρά τυχαία - αυτό είναι που με ώθησε να γράψω αυτό το μικρό δοκίμιο στο Fnt. Το βίντεο είχε τίτλο «The New Fnt. is Killing Users Drugs in Europe». Βίντεο εδώ Το βίντεο μιλάει για το Nitazenes - ένα ναρκωτικό ΑΚΟΜΑ ΠΙΟ ΘΑΝΑΤΙΚΟ από το Fnt. ότι Fnt. κόβεται με. Και αν ακούτε τις ιστορίες OD - είναι ίδιες: Όλα γίνονται μαύρα.

Νομίζω ότι όλες αυτές είναι ζωτικής σημασίας πληροφορίες που πρέπει να ληφθούν υπόψη. Η πεντοβαρβιτόλη είναι εξαιρετικά δύσκολο να αποκτηθεί γιατί δεν πλημμυρίζει τους δρόμους όπως το Fnt. είναι. Δεν ξέρω πόσο δύσκολο είναι να αποκτήσετε SN αυτή τη στιγμή, αλλά νομίζω ότι μπορώ να πω με ασφάλεια ότι το Fnt. είναι πιο γρήγορος και ευκολότερος θάνατος. Το μεγαλύτερο μειονέκτημα είναι φυσικά το Fnt. είναι προφανώς παράνομη η κατοχή - αλλά λαμβάνοντας υπόψη ότι έχω δει ανθρώπους εδώ που πηγαίνουν πολλά ταξίδια στο Περού για να πάρουν Pentobarbitol - δεν μπορώ παρά να αποκτήσω Fnt. πρέπει να είναι πιο εύκολο από αυτό.

Εξακολουθώ να λέω ότι τα πυροβόλα όπλα είναι το «Χρυσό Πρότυπο» όταν πρόκειται για τη μέθοδο Perfect CTB, αλλά αν θέλετε να κάνετε μια κηδεία με ανοιχτό φέρετρο - Fnt. είναι μια πρωταρχική επιλογή.

Θα σου μιλήσω εκ/πείρας επειδή είμαι χρήστης οπιούχων πολλά χρόνια και είχα αμέτρητα od.... δυστυχώς επέζησα από όλα..... Το ιδανικότερο θα ήταν νάρκωση με κεταμίνη και ένα μπουκαλάκι 50ml με 30g την κυρία και ίσως να γινόταν ένας ωραίος θάνατος.... εγώ αυτό ετοιμάζω αλλά δυσκολεύομε για το k......

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

I just skimmed this as I don't have the energy to fully focus on reading rn but if I understood correctly - Swap fent with more potent Nitazenes but the main issue is it's underdeveloped method as no one is really reporting attempts, how much was used in an attempt (and ideaaly their bw as well) etc.

 

[imsotired35]

I don't really know anything about drugs, but I do often think about this. How is it so hard to get ahold of if it ends up lacing so many drugs? Seems like it should be an easy way out if you only need the tiniest amount but I know it's not.

 

[PhilosopherInAV0id]

I spend a lot of time brainstorming about the PERFECT CTB method. Even if it's something my Disabled rear end might not have access to - I'd feel very good knowing I spent the end of my life giving folks here ideas on the ever coveted Perfect Method. My thoughts turned to F*nt*nyl (which henceforth will be referred to as Fnt) when I kept stumbling upon things about it. First I heard one of my favorite actors (Angus Cloud) died of an accidental OD.

One huge factor I consider when brainstorming methods is "Is this method so deadly that people have died with it by accident?"

SO MANY people have died by Fnt ACCIDENTALLY that it's among the leading causes of death (I believe in 2022 it was THE leading cause of death).

Then I stumbled upon several articles informing that Fnt is SO DEADLY it is now replacing Pentobarbitol as the drug used in Lethal Injection Executions in Nebraska and Nevada. Article here: "Is Fnt A Humane Method of Execution?"

Really let that sink in: Fnt. is OUTPERFORMING the actual drug used in Euthanasia and Execution in efficacy and humaneness.

The article asks - "Is Fnt. a HUMANE way of carrying out the Death Penalty?" To which I personally respond a resounding YES. Why? I've scoured the internet for Fnt. overdose stories - accidental ODs that were brought back by Narcan at the last minute. They all say the same thing:

"I took the drug, and everything just went black."

Is that not the CTB experience we're all hoping for? The coveted zero pain, zero SI struggle, 'everything just goes black' death?

Now I have never used h*roin, let alone Fnt., but I am familiar with how opiates make you feel. I used to take Oxycodone when I was younger, but since started using Kratom, and I've been doing so for the last 11 years. Of course, Kratom is so weak an Opiate it doesn't even really bind to the Opiate receptors, but you still get that Opiate 'buzz'. So when I imagine what a death by Fnt. will be like - I just imagine the feeling of Kratom x10000 - and then everything goes black.

Ever see that scene in Breaking Bad where Jesse tries the H*roin and starts floating off the bed? I imagine it's like that - but with Fnt. you just float right into your grave.

NOW - I also stumbled upon something on Youtube last night out of pure happenstance - which is what prompted me to write this little essay on Fnt. The video was titled "The New Fnt. is Killing Drug Users in Europe." Video Here The video talks about Nitazenes - a drug EVEN DEADLIER than Fnt. that Fnt. is being cut with. And if you listen to the OD stories - they're the same: Everything just goes black.

I think this is all vital information to consider. Pentobarbitol is extremely hard to get because it's not flooding the streets like Fnt. is. I don't know how difficult SN is to get at the present time, but I think I can safely say that Fnt. is a quicker and easier death. The biggest drawback is of course Fnt. is obviously illegal to possess - but considering I've seen people on here going to lengths of traveling to Peru to get Pentobarbitol - I can't help but thing obtaining Fnt. has to be easier than that.

I still say that Firearms are the 'Gold Standard' when it comes to the Perfect CTB method, but if you're hellbent on having an open-casket funeral - Fnt. is a prime option.

This honestly sounds like the perfect CTB for me! Its how I always envisioned it-Laying down on the bed, going to sleep, and just not waking up the next morning, or any after that. The only reason I am still alive is because I have always dreaded pain of any kind, which is a major limiting factor when it comes to ctb. This would provide a way to do that. The only problem is the access to it. I don't know if it would be available on the black market that there's links to on the suicide discussion, for the reason that I haven't made up my mind about whether I want to risk what is probably an obscene amount of viruses that would steal everything I have. I honestly wouldn't even care about being caught, given that the worst I believe would happen to me by the law is death anyway (U.S., for reference). I personally can't try to force myself to do anything that is very obviously dangerous, such as trying to cut of my head, which also puts firearms out of the picture, but ingesting a drug, which is supposedly just a random powder, calms that down.

 

[Illegal Preclear]

Agree about SN, at least where I'm concerned. Not for me. But, with limited options available, I don't begrudge anyone for opting for it when choices are limited. It might be someone's only option. F (fentanyl, just shorthand, saves time) may be a good method. A lot of us just don't have any good way of obtaining it. And I'm really not a "drug person" anyway.

I think we should all be able to agree that the best method is the one that will work for the individual based on their own unique circumstances.

Yeah that's just the trouble - availability. In my case - my dream method has been by firearm. I just feel like you can't get a better method than that. But I'm going to have to 'go around' the law to obtain one which makes me very nervous. I feel like going for the firearm would be the option worth breaking the law over since the odds of surviving that are astronomical. I did once live in an area that had a huge Fent problem - people ODing to death every day and it just felt like so many people had access to it. When I looked at the statistics and saw 80,000-100,000 folks were dying of Fent every year it just struck me as something that - if you were already willing and able to go 'around the law' anyway - would be a good fit for CTB.

In short - I know from experience Opiates feel really, really good. And I'd love for an extremely huge Opioid high to be the last thing I felt before I died. The only thing better than a peaceful death is a BLISSFUL death.

I don't really know anything about drugs, but I do often think about this. How is it so hard to get ahold of if it ends up lacing so many drugs? Seems like it should be an easy way out if you only need the tiniest amount but I know it's not.

This is my line of thinking. With all this talk on news outlets of the "Opioid Crisis" and such high death toll numbers it feels like the streets are flooded with it. I know Pentobarbitol is more ideal, but it seems like that'd be a lot harder to get, and SN seems like it's becoming harder and harder to find.

This honestly sounds like the perfect CTB for me! Its how I always envisioned it-Laying down on the bed, going to sleep, and just not waking up the next morning, or any after that. The only reason I am still alive is because I have always dreaded pain of any kind, which is a major limiting factor when it comes to ctb. This would provide a way to do that. The only problem is the access to it. I don't know if it would be available on the black market that there's links to on the suicide discussion, for the reason that I haven't made up my mind about whether I want to risk what is probably an obscene amount of viruses that would steal everything I have. I honestly wouldn't even care about being caught, given that the worst I believe would happen to me by the law is death anyway (U.S., for reference). I personally can't try to force myself to do anything that is very obviously dangerous, such as trying to cut of my head, which also puts firearms out of the picture, but ingesting a drug, which is supposedly just a random powder, calms that down.

Yeah, that's the dream! I wouldn't cut firearms out though if you can get your hands on them - your brain stem would be destroyed before you could register the pain. But that's just me - my ultimate wish is just to have a firearm to CTB with...

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Yeah that's just the trouble - availability. In my case - my dream method has been by firearm. I just feel like you can't get a better method than that. But I'm going to have to 'go around' the law to obtain one which makes me very nervous. I feel like going for the firearm would be the option worth breaking the law over since the odds of surviving that are astronomical. I did once live in an area that had a huge Fent problem - people ODing to death every day and it just felt like so many people had access to it. When I looked at the statistics and saw 80,000-100,000 folks were dying of Fent every year it just struck me as something that - if you were already willing and able to go 'around the law' anyway - would be a good fit for CTB.

In short - I know from experience Opiates feel really, really good. And I'd love for an extremely huge Opioid high to be the last thing I felt before I died. The only thing better than a peaceful death is a BLISSFUL death.

I had a cousin OD on "something", probably F, I don't really know, could have been H. It was accidental as far as anyone knows. Wasn't his first time ODing. He'd been brought back at least 3 times I know about. I've never done it so have no idea what it feels like. From all anecdotal accounts, it seems like a decent way to go. I just don't have the connections, and certainly not enough knowledge about it, to consider it seriously though.

What type of gun you thinking about? Pretty much anything other than pea-shooter .22's, .25's, maybe even .380's, should get the job done I think. Of course, the shotgun is, and always will be king. Just need to keep the nervousness in check, which I know is a lot easier said than done, so you can keep the gun on target. If you went with a gun, would you use it via the mouth? Yeah, be careful getting a gun if you're prohibited from legally getting one. Ammo, too, which, I assume, you'd be legally barred from purchasing. Don't know your state laws, but mine still allows unlicensed sales at gun shows, IF you can find someone still selling like that (everyone concerned about legal consequences nowadays).

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

I spend a lot of time brainstorming about the PERFECT CTB method. Even if it's something my Disabled rear end might not have access to - I'd feel very good knowing I spent the end of my life giving folks here ideas on the ever coveted Perfect Method. My thoughts turned to F*nt*nyl (which henceforth will be referred to as Fnt) when I kept stumbling upon things about it. First I heard one of my favorite actors (Angus Cloud) died of an accidental OD.

One huge factor I consider when brainstorming methods is "Is this method so deadly that people have died with it by accident?"

SO MANY people have died by Fnt ACCIDENTALLY that it's among the leading causes of death (I believe in 2022 it was THE leading cause of death).

Then I stumbled upon several articles informing that Fnt is SO DEADLY it is now replacing Pentobarbitol as the drug used in Lethal Injection Executions in Nebraska and Nevada. Article here: "Is Fnt A Humane Method of Execution?"

Really let that sink in: Fnt. is OUTPERFORMING the actual drug used in Euthanasia and Execution in efficacy and humaneness.

The article asks - "Is Fnt. a HUMANE way of carrying out the Death Penalty?" To which I personally respond a resounding YES. Why? I've scoured the internet for Fnt. overdose stories - accidental ODs that were brought back by Narcan at the last minute. They all say the same thing:

"I took the drug, and everything just went black."

Is that not the CTB experience we're all hoping for? The coveted zero pain, zero SI struggle, 'everything just goes black' death?

Now I have never used h*roin, let alone Fnt., but I am familiar with how opiates make you feel. I used to take Oxycodone when I was younger, but since started using Kratom, and I've been doing so for the last 11 years. Of course, Kratom is so weak an Opiate it doesn't even really bind to the Opiate receptors, but you still get that Opiate 'buzz'. So when I imagine what a death by Fnt. will be like - I just imagine the feeling of Kratom x10000 - and then everything goes black.

Ever see that scene in Breaking Bad where Jesse tries the H*roin and starts floating off the bed? I imagine it's like that - but with Fnt. you just float right into your grave.

NOW - I also stumbled upon something on Youtube last night out of pure happenstance - which is what prompted me to write this little essay on Fnt. The video was titled "The New Fnt. is Killing Drug Users in Europe." Video Here The video talks about Nitazenes - a drug EVEN DEADLIER than Fnt. that Fnt. is being cut with. And if you listen to the OD stories - they're the same: Everything just goes black.

I think this is all vital information to consider. Pentobarbitol is extremely hard to get because it's not flooding the streets like Fnt. is. I don't know how difficult SN is to get at the present time, but I think I can safely say that Fnt. is a quicker and easier death. The biggest drawback is of course Fnt. is obviously illegal to possess - but considering I've seen people on here going to lengths of traveling to Peru to get Pentobarbitol - I can't help but thing obtaining Fnt. has to be easier than that.

I still say that Firearms are the 'Gold Standard' when it comes to the Perfect CTB method, but if you're hellbent on having an open-casket funeral - Fnt. is a prime option.

No method is perfect.
Fentynal (I guess I should have said Phenobarbital, as someone mentioned) was the preferred method when it was available. Most were successful. There aren't any actual numbers that I know of. If some were unsuccessful, it could have been human error or being found too soon.

 

[Illegal Preclear]

What type of gun you thinking about? Pretty much anything other than pea-shooter .22's, .25's, maybe even .380's, should get the job done I think. Of course, the shotgun is, and always will be king. Just need to keep the nervousness in check, which I know is a lot easier said than done, so you can keep the gun on target. If you went with a gun, would you use it via the mouth? Yeah, be careful getting a gun if you're prohibited from legally getting one. Ammo, too, which, I assume, you'd be legally barred from purchasing. Don't know your state laws, but mine still allows unlicensed sales at gun shows, IF you can find someone still selling like that (everyone concerned about legal consequences nowadays).

I was torn between .357 Magnum (ala Budd Dwyer) or shotgun. I feel good with a Magnum because I've handled and shot one before (ironically the very .357 Magnum my best friend used to successfully CTB), but I know shotgun IS king and they come much cheaper. My only trepidation with a shotgun is that I've never handled one and I'd be afraid of mishandling it during the big moment and accidentally blowing my face off instead of blowing my brains out. But I think I'm just overthinking it. And I absolutely plan to do it via the mouth - pointed at the back of the head/brainstem.

It actually drives me crazy in movies seeing a firearm CTB done holding the barrel of the gun at the temple.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

My only trepidation with a shotgun is that I've never handled one and I'd be afraid of mishandling it during the big moment and accidentally blowing my face off instead of blowing my brains out.

Finger never on trigger until ready to fire, right?

 

[Illegal Preclear]

Finger never on trigger until ready to fire, right?

Yep! I learned good trigger discipline and decent shooting way back when I lived in Arizona briefly. I just know due to the fact I can't obtain a firearm purchase ID because I live in a dystopian Hellstate - if I'm going to CTB via firearm, I'd better be committed to it because the only way to truly avoid legal consequences would be to CTB with it the day I got it.

 

[suffering_mo_7]

How bad is the kickback? Which brand?

I was torn between .357 Magnum (ala Budd Dwyer) or shotgun. I feel good with a Magnum because I've handled and shot one before (ironically the very .357 Magnum my best friend used to successfully CTB), but I know shotgun IS king and they come much cheaper. My only trepidation with a shotgun is that I've never handled one and I'd be afraid of mishandling it during the big moment and accidentally blowing my face off instead of blowing my brains out. But I think I'm just overthinking it. And I absolutely plan to do it via the mouth - pointed at the back of the head/brainstem.

It actually drives me crazy in movies seeing a firearm CTB done holding the barrel of the gun at the temple.

 

[jbear824]

I just learned of an even more deadly drug than fent. (I don't remember the name tho) Apparently all you need is a few grain of sand sized pieces to check out of this world.

I wish I knew how to get fent. I would be so out of here.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I just know due to the fact I can't obtain a firearm purchase ID because I live in a dystopian Hellstate

I assume that expressly applies to handguns. But, it applies to shotguns, too? Honestly, I made an incorrect assumption in my mind that you were somehow "barred" from legally buying a gun.

 

[Illegal Preclear]

How bad is the kickback? Which brand?

The type of Magnum? This was over a decade ago so I honestly don't remember, but I think it was a Colt. It was a damn nice gun though and I got used to the kickback fairly quickly. I'm not well versed in guns by any means, I just had a lot of fun shooting my friends guns in the desert back in AZ. I've only really been interested in buying one strictly for the purpose of CTB. I've pictured myself CTBing with a gun long before I ever held one - since I was a tween pretty much. Then I saw the Budd Dwyer video and was really sold on the idea of CTB via Magnum. It looked so easy! And he was dead before he hit the ground!

I assume that expressly applies to handguns. But, it applies to shotguns, too? Honestly, I made an incorrect assumption in my mind that you were somehow "barred" from legally buying a gun.

New Jersey has the strictest gun laws in the US - you need a permit for ANY gun purchase - handgun or shotgun. I've actually tried filling out the application and I couldn't even finish it because it required references and I didn't have a single one. There are multiple questions directly asking if you're Disabled - physically or mentally, take medication, have ever been institutionalized etc. etc. I've written a few posts about the conditions where I live and how if you're Disabled in New Jersey you're basically fucked. It was literally legal for Psychiatrists to experiment on me from the age of 3. If I was born somewhere else in the US that has non-dystopian laws, I might not be CTBing right now. It's extra enraging because I've never commit a crime in my life - I have a completely clean criminal record - very few States in the US bar gun ownership SOLELY on the basis of having a Disability.

I've stayed flexible about preferred method though. I'm basically a fan of anything that blows the head off OR decapitates quickly. It's why if a firearm is not an option, I'm going for full suspension hanging. I've thought about drop-hanging for full decapitation, but I don't have a high enough drop to pull it off - so classic style it is. I've "practiced" having the noose super tight around my neck, cutting off the proper arteries to see how it feels and I can see myself being able to go through with it if I never get my hands on that coveted gun....

 

[MapleSyrupVein]

I spend a lot of time brainstorming about the PERFECT CTB method. Even if it's something my Disabled rear end might not have access to - I'd feel very good knowing I spent the end of my life giving folks here ideas on the ever coveted Perfect Method. My thoughts turned to F*nt*nyl (which henceforth will be referred to as Fnt) when I kept stumbling upon things about it. First I heard one of my favorite actors (Angus Cloud) died of an accidental OD.

One huge factor I consider when brainstorming methods is "Is this method so deadly that people have died with it by accident?"

SO MANY people have died by Fnt ACCIDENTALLY that it's among the leading causes of death (I believe in 2022 it was THE leading cause of death).

Then I stumbled upon several articles informing that Fnt is SO DEADLY it is now replacing Pentobarbitol as the drug used in Lethal Injection Executions in Nebraska and Nevada. Article here: "Is Fnt A Humane Method of Execution?"

Really let that sink in: Fnt. is OUTPERFORMING the actual drug used in Euthanasia and Execution in efficacy and humaneness.

The article asks - "Is Fnt. a HUMANE way of carrying out the Death Penalty?" To which I personally respond a resounding YES. Why? I've scoured the internet for Fnt. overdose stories - accidental ODs that were brought back by Narcan at the last minute. They all say the same thing:

"I took the drug, and everything just went black."

Is that not the CTB experience we're all hoping for? The coveted zero pain, zero SI struggle, 'everything just goes black' death?

Now I have never used h*roin, let alone Fnt., but I am familiar with how opiates make you feel. I used to take Oxycodone when I was younger, but since started using Kratom, and I've been doing so for the last 11 years. Of course, Kratom is so weak an Opiate it doesn't even really bind to the Opiate receptors, but you still get that Opiate 'buzz'. So when I imagine what a death by Fnt. will be like - I just imagine the feeling of Kratom x10000 - and then everything goes black.

Ever see that scene in Breaking Bad where Jesse tries the H*roin and starts floating off the bed? I imagine it's like that - but with Fnt. you just float right into your grave.

NOW - I also stumbled upon something on Youtube last night out of pure happenstance - which is what prompted me to write this little essay on Fnt. The video was titled "The New Fnt. is Killing Drug Users in Europe." Video Here The video talks about Nitazenes - a drug EVEN DEADLIER than Fnt. that Fnt. is being cut with. And if you listen to the OD stories - they're the same: Everything just goes black.

I think this is all vital information to consider. Pentobarbitol is extremely hard to get because it's not flooding the streets like Fnt. is. I don't know how difficult SN is to get at the present time, but I think I can safely say that Fnt. is a quicker and easier death. The biggest drawback is of course Fnt. is obviously illegal to possess - but considering I've seen people on here going to lengths of traveling to Peru to get Pentobarbitol - I can't help but thing obtaining Fnt. has to be easier than that.

I still say that Firearms are the 'Gold Standard' when it comes to the Perfect CTB method, but if you're hellbent on having an open-casket funeral - Fnt. is a prime option.

fuck this seems perfect until i saw you need IV and a good source. SN seems most easier to get and if done via the guide painless… if there was only a assisted way out everywhere lol

 

[sevensquared]

Wish I was American. Guns, fentanyl. They've got it all