International Euthanasia - Belgium-Netherlands

[fuzattojuliana]

Euthanasia for all psychological disorders are totally legal in Belgium and Netherlands and I want to know how this law work for we who are strangers and how have the same rights like a native.

 

[HowSoonIsNow]

The little I know about it is that you need to get the approval from 3 psychiatrists and you're able to give up even if it's on your "big day" .
There's a little documentary about one of the cases in Belgium, if you're interested:

 

[Deleted member 19654]

It's not an easy process getting accepted for euthanasia. There are a lot of hoops you have to jump through. You need to meet certain criteria and it needs to be approved by several doctors. I'd imagine it's also expensive.

 

[inflammed123]

sounds like a terrible way to go. you'd have to pay several doctors for the right to die. Not to mention you'd have to share details on your life to complete strangers and BEG them for what should be a right.

 

[Busdriver]

It's not an easy process getting accepted for euthanasia. There are a lot of hoops you have to jump through. You need to meet certain criteria and it needs to be approved by several doctors. I'd imagine it's also expensive.

This is true, except the last part. It is free in the Netherlands.

People idiolize euthanasia in the Netherlands and Belgium too much. It is very hard to get eventhough it seems easy when watching the video.

 

[Deleted member 19654]

This is true, except the last part. It is free in the Netherlands.

People idiolize euthanasia in the Netherlands and Belgium too much. It is very hard to get eventhough it seems easy when reading the article.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/euthanasia-in-the-netherlands.17122/

unfortunately it's not free if you don't have Dutch health insurance. You'd also have to factor in the cost of flights and accommodation.

 

[Busdriver]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/euthanasia-in-the-netherlands.17122/

unfortunately it's not free if you don't have Dutch health insurance. You'd also have to factor in the cost of flights and accommodation.

You are right, for non-Dutch people (with no Dutch insurance) it isn't free.

 

[nirvana]

has anyone here applied succesfully to belgium?

 

[ARW3N]

There was a case in the media of a mentally sick Dutch girl who everyone believed was euthanised at one of these euthanasia clinics. It actually turned out that she starved herself to death when they refused to euthanise her.

 

[nirvana]

There was a case in the media of a mentally sick Dutch girl who everyone believed was euthanised at one of these euthanasia clinics. It actually turned out that she starved herself to death when they refused to euthanise her.

horrible way to go :(

 

[timothyyyyyyy:(]

There was a case in the media of a mentally sick Dutch girl who everyone believed was euthanised at one of these euthanasia clinics. It actually turned out that she starved herself to death when they refused to euthanise her.

Noa :(

Getting euthanasia here by law is not easy. 95% chance they will reject and not even consider it. And if they do it takes like 2 years of therapy before they finally give you the right to get it. And even in that 2 years there is a rate of 95% that is not getting it after all

 

[ARW3N]

Noa :(

Getting euthanasia here by law is not easy. 95% chance they will reject and not even consider it. And if they do it takes like 2 years of therapy before they finally give you the right to get it. And even in that 2 years there is a rate of 95% that is not getting it after all

Yes, Noa Pothoven. Thanks for jogging my memory about the 17-year-old Dutch girl. There's no way the euthanasia clinics would have approved her euthanasia even with the consent of her psychiatrists. It was wrongly reported in the media that she had been euthanised. She had simply stopped eating and drinking.

 

[timothyyyyyyy:(]

Yes, Noa Pothoven. Thanks for jogging my memory about the 17-year-old Dutch girl. There's no way the euthanasia clinics would have approved her euthanasia even with the consent of her psychiatrists. It was wrongly reported in the media that she had been euthanised. She had simply stopped eating and drinking.

yes i knew her

i was struggling myself so i deleted instagram to go work on myself and so i lost touch of her. months later i saw she passed away and i cried. and all those news outlets saying all kinds of bull** i got so angry. and i still hate myself for not get ting the chance of ever speaking to her again and deleting my instagram and leaving her struggle.

after she passed i read her book and it really hurted to read it but it was wonderfull. I hope she has peace now

 

[angie]

has anyone here applied succesfully to belgium?

euthanasia is legal in. belgium . i just watched a very interesting video on u tube about a
Doctor Yves de Locht he does 1patient a month . i'd love to know what that vial of stuff he he uses . i'd buy it in a heartbeat . he said it is injected into the patients veins and writhing one minute they are gone . any one know what it is ?

 

[Carrotcake]

euthanasia is legal in. belgium . i just watched a very interesting video on u tube about a
Doctor Yves de Locht he does 1patient a month . i'd love to know what that vial of stuff he he uses . i'd buy it in a heartbeat . he said it is injected into the patients veins and writhing one minute they are gone . any one know what it is ?

This is the guideline for euthanasia or assisted suicide in the Netherlands. Different types of medication are mentioned. I think it would be similar in Belgium.

https://www.knmp.nl/downloads/guidelines-for-the-practice-of-euthanasia.pdf

 

[FuneralCry]

If this was available in the UK, I'd definitely go for this option. It is greatly needed in this country. However I bet even if it was I wouldn't get accepted even though I have mental and physical problems and I would probably cbt myself.

 

[JustAMatterOfTime]

Seems that it is more about the principal than the urgent need to die with these systems. Taking so long to get accepted.

 

[HopelessFight]

has anyone here applied succesfully to belgium?

I have applied, they didn't even start the procedure because of "not enough has been tried". That is after more than 10 years of hospitalisation and seeing tens of psychiatrists and psychologists.

 

[angie]

This is the guideline for euthanasia or assisted suicide in the Netherlands. Different types of medication are mentioned. I think it would be similar in Belgium.

https://www.knmp.nl/downloads/guidelines-for-the-practice-of-euthanasia.pdf

any ideas what they use in that vial ,?

This is the guideline for euthanasia or assisted suicide in the Netherlands. Different types of medication are mentioned. I think it would be similar in Belgium.

https://www.knmp.nl/downloads/guidelines-for-the-practice-of-euthanasia.pdf

any idea what could be in that vial that makes death as quick as the video says .

 

[Wrennie]

This is the guideline for euthanasia or assisted suicide in the Netherlands. Different types of medication are mentioned. I think it would be similar in Belgium.

https://www.knmp.nl/downloads/guidelines-for-the-practice-of-euthanasia.pdf

I don't see Nembutal mentioned on that list of the medications used under "administration" in the table of contents. I wonder why? I know propofol is what killed Michael Jackson, but I have never heard of Thiopental.

 

[Carrotcake]

I don't see Nembutal mentioned on that list of the medications used under "administration" in the table of contents. I wonder why? I know propofol is what killed Michael Jackson, but I have never heard of Thiopental.

Pentobarbital (Nembutal) and sectobarbital are mention under physician-assisted suicide (p.17) and oral administration (p.32). Thiopental is another barbiturate but I guess only for injection/IV and not for oral administration.

 

[Meretlein]

Although euthanasia for mental disorders is legal in Belgium and the Netherlands, it is very hard to get and abuse of suicidal people in the form of forced psychiatry still occurs in those countries.

I don't see Nembutal mentioned on that list of the medications used under "administration" in the table of contents. I wonder why? I know propofol is what killed Michael Jackson, but I have never heard of Thiopental.

Thiopental is an ultra short acting barbiturate that was once used as an anesthetic before being replaced by propofol. I believe it is an analog of N.

 

[HopelessFight]

Although euthanasia for mental disorders is legal in Belgium and the Netherlands, it is very hard to get and abuse of suicidal people in the form of forced psychiatry still occurs in those countries.

Unfortunately, I can confirm that's true. And you have less rights than criminals when this happens.

 

[Euthanza]

Pentobarbital (Nembutal) and sectobarbital are mention under physician-assisted suicide (p.17) and oral administration (p.32). Thiopental is another barbiturate but I guess only for injection/IV and not for oral administration.

Thiopental causes death in 1-2 minutes according to one of Belgian euthanasia doctor