TAW122
Emissary of the right to die.
- Aug 30, 2018
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This two maybe three prong/part problem, and not only this, but it is also very infuriating and annoying at the same time. First off, the presumption of ignorance that people don't know the CTB prevention lifeline number (and now simplified) is just insulting towards our intelligence. Second, the presumption of wanting to get "help" when we really just want others to respect our choices when it comes to deciding our own bodily autonomy instead of being 'ill'. Finally, the presumption of gratitude is just outright arrogance and ignorance on the pro-lifers' part because for most of us who want to leave this life, we definitely don't want busybodies and goody-two shoes pro-lifers to interfere with our rights, therefore, we won't show gratitude but contempt, anger, and resentment!
The presumption of ignorance:
What do I mean by this? Many pro-lifers who pedal and parrot off the hotline are operating under a presumption that many people don't know the number or naively believe that we (pro-choicers) don't know of such a number. That couldn't be further from the truth because people who really want to die do NOT want anything or anyone to intervene against their efforts as that would be contradictory towards their (the pro-choicer's) end goal! Of course, many pro-choicers know the dreadful number and the last thing someone determined to die is to self-sabotage their own efforts!
The presumption of wanting help:
It is insidious and in bad faith to assume that just by providing help that said person or recipient (someone wanting to die, or a pro-choicer choosing death) would be receptive. This couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, just about anything that could go against or impede a pro-choicer's efforts to seek peace from suffering a determined pro-choicer wanting to exit suffering would make many efforts to avoid being intervened against! The last thing a determined pro-choicer seeking to die is to foil their own efforts! Pro-choicers are not stupid, and we know the outcomes to getting "help" or reaching out (and being 'too honest'). We also know from the experiences of others and that is an outcome that we don't want!
The presumption of gratitude:
This is also an inaccurate presumption that they (the person being intervened against) would later be thankful for having their attempt ruined and all consequences (financial, social, legal, medical, civil liberties, etc.) that follow are acceptable. If anything, for people who have been suffering indefinitely and already on the verge of CTB'ing would just tip the scales into CTB'ing, and for those who are going to CTB, they just have more resentment and bitterness from being intervened against and then suffering all the repercussions from their failed attempt! It is also delusional for pro-lifers to presume that all pro-choicers will express gratitude such that it is just a matter of time (be it weeks, months, or years), it's an unfalsifiable presumption because many people who are determined to die would only become bitter and angry for having failed due to the meddlesome actions of pro-lifers!
In the end it is presumptuous and disrespectful for pro-lifers to assume a lot of misconceptions about people wanting to die and even worse to parrot off and pedal useless numbers in the expectation that someone doesn't know or that someone would appreciate the shallow platitudes and drivel that would make things better. It's also insulting towards one's intelligence to presume that one isn't smart enough to know about it. Really, at best, these platitudes and meaningless lines of false hope spewed by pro-lifers do very little to change the situation and only serve to inflame the recipient, especially when the recipient is one that is determined to die. Most of us, especially those who are determined (including people on SaSu) KNOW about the resources, and the last thing WE as pro-choicers want is to be intervened against or do anything to sabotage our own plans to exit suffering! These pro-lifers would do better to understand that not everyone wishes to be saved, and not everyone is ignorant of the resources (we KNOW what resources there are and we DON'T WANT HELP!).
The presumption of ignorance:
What do I mean by this? Many pro-lifers who pedal and parrot off the hotline are operating under a presumption that many people don't know the number or naively believe that we (pro-choicers) don't know of such a number. That couldn't be further from the truth because people who really want to die do NOT want anything or anyone to intervene against their efforts as that would be contradictory towards their (the pro-choicer's) end goal! Of course, many pro-choicers know the dreadful number and the last thing someone determined to die is to self-sabotage their own efforts!
The presumption of wanting help:
It is insidious and in bad faith to assume that just by providing help that said person or recipient (someone wanting to die, or a pro-choicer choosing death) would be receptive. This couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, just about anything that could go against or impede a pro-choicer's efforts to seek peace from suffering a determined pro-choicer wanting to exit suffering would make many efforts to avoid being intervened against! The last thing a determined pro-choicer seeking to die is to foil their own efforts! Pro-choicers are not stupid, and we know the outcomes to getting "help" or reaching out (and being 'too honest'). We also know from the experiences of others and that is an outcome that we don't want!
The presumption of gratitude:
This is also an inaccurate presumption that they (the person being intervened against) would later be thankful for having their attempt ruined and all consequences (financial, social, legal, medical, civil liberties, etc.) that follow are acceptable. If anything, for people who have been suffering indefinitely and already on the verge of CTB'ing would just tip the scales into CTB'ing, and for those who are going to CTB, they just have more resentment and bitterness from being intervened against and then suffering all the repercussions from their failed attempt! It is also delusional for pro-lifers to presume that all pro-choicers will express gratitude such that it is just a matter of time (be it weeks, months, or years), it's an unfalsifiable presumption because many people who are determined to die would only become bitter and angry for having failed due to the meddlesome actions of pro-lifers!
In the end it is presumptuous and disrespectful for pro-lifers to assume a lot of misconceptions about people wanting to die and even worse to parrot off and pedal useless numbers in the expectation that someone doesn't know or that someone would appreciate the shallow platitudes and drivel that would make things better. It's also insulting towards one's intelligence to presume that one isn't smart enough to know about it. Really, at best, these platitudes and meaningless lines of false hope spewed by pro-lifers do very little to change the situation and only serve to inflame the recipient, especially when the recipient is one that is determined to die. Most of us, especially those who are determined (including people on SaSu) KNOW about the resources, and the last thing WE as pro-choicers want is to be intervened against or do anything to sabotage our own plans to exit suffering! These pro-lifers would do better to understand that not everyone wishes to be saved, and not everyone is ignorant of the resources (we KNOW what resources there are and we DON'T WANT HELP!).
