Inmate hangs himself with a COVID mask

[GoneGoneGone]

I guess where there's a will there's a way

 

[JB1999]

Wow, that takes commitment. I'd be interested in seeing exactly HOW he managed to do that, I've struggled enough with trying to hang myself with a belt and a rope

 

[esse_est_percipi]

I guess where there's a will there's a way

Do you have a link to an article?
Or maybe this is not supposed to be serious?

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Do you have a link to an article?
Or maybe this is not supposed to be serious?

What, did you think I'd joke about something like that? I didn't post the link bc of specific settings on my phone...

Weiterleitungshinweis

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

This is why I used to consider hanging as my number one option. It seems like so many people are successful using just about anything. I don't get it! Bed sheets, scarves, belts, neck ties... face masks?! It should be easy, right?! But so many failure stories! Ugh.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

What, did you think I'd joke about something like that? I didn't post the link bc of specific settings on my phone...

Weiterleitungshinweis

I didn't know.
It just seemed so improbable that I wasn't sure.
Thanks for the link

 

[Greenberg]

I guess where there's a will there's a way

Certainly, he was determined to take his own life. I am somewhat surprised that he would commit suicide for a third-degree burglary charge. It often can be downgraded to a misdemeanor. There must be other circumstances in his life to lead him to that extreme decision.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I didn't know.
It just seemed so improbable that I wasn't sure.
Thanks for the link

I know, it seems so unlikely and random!!

Certainly, he was determined to take his own life. I am somewhat surprised that he would commit suicide for a third-degree burglary charge. It often can be downgraded to a misdemeanor. There must be other circumstances in his life to lead him to that extreme decision.

Thank you for pointing that out. So if he had a $10,000 bond, does this mean he only had to pay $1,000 to get out? Maybe he was depressed bc of that?
And I mean... it could look like a suicide... but it could also not be one.

 

[Neville1]

My first reaction was that a $10000 bond is unconscionable, inhumane, that he should have been released on his own recognizance. However, he was also violating a protective order so maybe it was to protect a former partner. Surely the situation with them was a big factor. It's sad as the judge advised that he receive mental health treatment during his incarceration.

ACLU: Prisoner's suicide with COVID mask could have been prevented

State correction officials believe Daniel Ocasio used a cloth face covering to strangle...

www.google.com

 

[alexit]

What, did you think I'd joke about something like that? I didn't post the link bc of specific settings on my phone...

Weiterleitungshinweis

Kinda impressed. If I ever manage something that creative my suicide note is going to be instructions.

 

[got2beFionaC]

My first reaction was that a $10000 bond is unconscionable, inhumane, that he should have been released on his own recognizance. However, he was also violating a protective order so maybe it was to protect a former partner. Surely the situation with them was a big factor. It's sad as the judge advised that he receive mental health treatment during his incarceration.

ACLU: Prisoner's suicide with COVID mask could have been prevented

State correction officials believe Daniel Ocasio used a cloth face covering to strangle...

www.google.com

you only have to pay (roughly) 1-15% of bond. that's not much. plus, he wouldn't get ROR because it wasn't a first offense. but prisons definitely need to up their game with mental health treatment

 

[MyLifeMyChoice]

I know, it seems so unlikely and random!!

Thank you for pointing that out. So if he had a $10,000 bond, does this mean he only had to pay $1,000 to get out? Maybe he was depressed bc of that?
And I mean... it could look like a suicide... but it could also not be one.

We can never understand what is going on in another person's mind. And humiliation and shame are a very serious thing, its devastating effects on a person's mental health are often underestimated. Even the simplest of things can break a persons self esteem. A person can have his self-esteem shattered by simple ridicule or being beaten up, even lightly. I speak from personal experience.

 

[TAW122]

That is a rather dedicated prisoner, and I do agree with @GoneGoneGone that if someone is determined enough, they will do (just about) everything to CTB, even overriding one's own SI. In this case, I believe the prisoner saw that his life was over and ruined, very difficult to rebuild or recover and decided that even after prison, his quality of life would be terrible (for most ex-convicts, especially in this modern world) so he CTB'd.

 

[Meditation guide]

I wish they had a photo of him sitting on his bunk bed with the mask around his neck because I can't figure out how it was possible. I need ideas. Did he just use his own hands to strangle himself with the mask?

 

[braketimez]

How in the hell

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I wish they had a photo of him sitting on his bunk bed with the mask around his neck because I can't figure out how it was possible. I need ideas. Did he just use his own hands to strangle himself with the mask?

I have an idea but it's pretty gruesome, not sure if I should share

 

[Meditation guide]

not sure if I should share

Please do. I think he would have to hook it to something else, maybe a hook of some kind on the bed.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Please do. I think he would have to hook it to something else, maybe a hook of some kind on the bed.

Yeah pretty much something like that, maybe the bed frame

 

[Meditation guide]

Yeah pretty much something like that, maybe the bed frame

It couldn't have been the type with the two elastic bands that go around the head. It must have had some long ties.

 

[Jessica5]

What, did you think I'd joke about something like that? I didn't post the link bc of specific settings on my phone...

Weiterleitungshinweis

I'm rather surprised this isn't getting more national news coverage.

That article is only in the local NY Times paper. And I don't think any other newspapers are covering that story.

 

[Neville1]

I doubt that his technique was key, rather, it was his determination.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

He made it look so easy. RIP

 

[Jessica5]

I didn't know.
It just seemed so improbable that I wasn't sure.
Thanks for the link

Yeah, I thought this thread smelled a little until I saw the OP actually provided the link.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

We can never understand what is going on in another person's mind. And humiliation and shame are a very serious thing, its devastating effects on a person's mental health are often underestimated. Even the simplest of things can break a persons self esteem. A person can have his self-esteem shattered by simple ridicule or being beaten up, even lightly. I speak from personal experience.

Same. I'm a person who doesn't tolerate being humilliated. When people talk bad things about me it makes me angry and makes me want to ctb impulsively.

 

[beyond1]

I wonder if Jeffrey Epstein would still be alive and incarcerated -- would he be able to pull that one off?

 

[I screwed up]

Like someone mentioned where there is a will there is a way . all I do is just keep planning forever .. Keep thinking of ways it will fail rather than just go for it ... Wtf ..me and my freakin SI + fact I don't have the balls to attempt

 

[Meditation guide]

all I do is just keep planning forever .. Keep thinking of ways it will fail rather than just go for it

Same here. I'm terrified but if I don't I know my life will be as a helpless vegetable pretty soon.

 

[Mustkeyknow]

When Anne Hathawill Anne Hathaway

 

[braketimez]

It couldn't have been the type with the two elastic bands that go around the head. It must have had some long ties.

Yeah I was thinking the same, but do they even make any without the elastic bands?

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I'm rather surprised this isn't getting more national news coverage.

That article is only in the local NY Times paper. And I don't think any other newspapers are covering that story.

It's on Fox, Daily Mail, NY Post (so international coverage).

Yeah, I thought this thread smelled a little until I saw the OP actually provided the link.

I apologize everyone, I use my Google app in my country of origin so I didn't wanna give away too much abt my identity, I've already given many identifiable details. I'm very sorry for not bringing the supporting "evidence" straight away.

It couldn't have been the type with the two elastic bands that go around the head. It must have had some long ties.

I think it could have happened with the elastic bands to tie the bed frame, partial.

I wonder if Jeffrey Epstein would still be alive and incarcerated -- would he be able to pull that one off?

Are you jk? Everything pointed at an inside job, homicide, not suicide.