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DiaresNoctis

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Apr 24, 2025
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The only way I would end myself is through controlled injection, therefore I wanted to ask, what would yall recommend to use? I know I need some sort of Anesthetic, Paralytic and a heart-stopping agent, but which can I actually get without much of a hustle and where I don't require insane amounts of it. Also how do i get my hands on automated injection systems, any ideas??
 
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In Canada what is used for MAiD (Medical Assistance in Dying) is midazolam, propofol, and rocuronium, in that order. Midazolam is a benzodiazepine, in the same class as things like valium or xanax and is used among other things to treat anxiety. That is it's relevance in this case - it is given first of the three to get rid of anxiety related to dying. Then, propofol. Propofol is a sedative used in surgery to put people to sleep, but it is also sometimes used in the emergency setting when other methods of strong pain relief (like fentanyl) fail. Finally rocuronium is a paralytic and it essentially stops you from breathing by paralyzing your diaphragm and intercostal muscles. Your oxygen then drops until your heart can no longer beat effectively and you die.

If sourcing materials and physically carrying out a method was not a consideration or obstacle, this would be how I would like to die too. However, the issue is that it's practically impossible. Here are some reasons why:

1. Midazolam is a controlled drug. It is a benzodiazepine and thus it has recreational value, so there is probably a market/demand for it. I'm sure it's possible to get illegally, but considering that it's a controlled substance for most people it would probably be hard to get. The most common "downers" I have seen are fentanyl, hydromorphone, morphine, heroin, and xanax, valium, ativan. There are other benzos which are more commonly used recreationally. Xanax is even stronger than midazolam, so I guess that could probably replace it but acquiring it could still be an issue for people who don't have these connections.
2. Propofol is also a controlled drug, but it would be much more difficult to acquire. I don't think there's much of a market for it. It's also not prescribed for take home use, only really used in clinical settings so it's not like you could get it prescribed and then use it to CTB. I think it would probably be even harder to get than pentobarbital, and people literally travel to other countries just for a chance of finding that.
3. Rocuronium, similarly to propofol, is a controlled drug only given under medical supervision. It's not psychoactive, so there's no reason people would use it recreationally. No market, pretty much impossible to get. Good luck finding this shit.

You also talk about a heart stopping agent. I've heard that for lethal injection in correctional facilities in the US they use potassium to stop the heart, but I've never actually researched it. I also suspect this would not be a pleasant experience. Again, not sure how you could even get a solution of IV potassium.

Getting this "without much of a hustle" is impossible as far as I know. Even with a "hustle", good luck. I suspect this method is literally impossible and you don't even have a chance unless you work in the pharmaceutical industry and have access to controlled drugs or maybe healthcare. Even then, these things are obviously controlled and someone would quickly notice when meds with recreational value go missing.

Also, even if you could somehow get all of this shit it would be a logistical nightmare to actually carry it out. This procedure often takes a team of lucid people to perform. After the first drug you would already be in an intoxicated state, so giving yourself propofol with be difficult. Then at that point you would be completely unconscious, so no idea how you could give yourself rocuronium.
 
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