foreveryoung
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- Jan 2, 2020
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For the past few month I've been digging almost everyday finding the best way to end it since i can no longer endure the pain of living. I want to find a way to die which is both available and painless because thats how I would want it myself. For the past 30 years i've been given the assurance i could always end it with various methods if i decided i couldn't live anymore, but witnessed all of them either being unrealistic or being taken away by the authorities. Despite them taking away the right, the demand does not dissipate when there will always be circumstances a person will have to live 10,20,30, or 40 years or more without going through excruciating pain.
Due to my urgency, I have recently been heavily looking into "sudden death" thinking it would be the best way to go because its instant and painless. I've heard of people dieing in their sleep peacefully and never waking up again , other reports where people just collapse and die. I questioned how this was possible? My readings have lead me to the heart of the matter (no pun intended). I believe the heart is the key to ending life, stopping it for a period and causing brain death which is the first organ effected after a heart failure is the key to a complete death. This is why hanging is one of the most reliable methods as we are blocking the heart from pumping blood to the brain and then causing heart failure then brain death soon afterwards. Once brain death is confirmed you can be sure you will never come back. Hanging though is a gruesome method not many of us want to be associated with. Fortunately there are many ways to stop the heart, one of the ways which i see as somewhat reliable is to prolong the QT interval (see below for definition) using various drugs and methods. Although it isn't mentioned specifically, I believe QT prolongation is the main cause of death in several other suicide methods, such as chloroquine ,amilityprine OD as well as hypothermia. Knowing this will give you a better understanding of why these methods lead to death and how you can improve upon them when you are to carry it out. The drugs chloroquine and amilityprine are all listed as drugs to avoid to prevent QT prolongation: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6192813/. Keeping this concept (QT prolongation) in mind I believe there are ways to potentiate methods like chloroquine OD. For example, although in the PPeH metoclopramide is recommended for cloroquine OD, it would be more suitable to use domperidone since its one of the listed drugs that cause the QT prolongation in combination with cloroquine (which also causes a long qt). Going on a 2 week fasting beforehand to further prolong the interval should be recommend as well (this has also been confirmed to slow down the heart and extend the qt interval). Another thing to note is QT prolongation mostly occurs when you are rested or relaxed. There are so many drug combinations that can lead to this (There is even a list being compiled here: https://crediblemeds.org/index.php/login/dlcheck , you have to register to access it), but obviously none of them have been tried except a few so we can't be sure how it will turn out, but you can also look up cases where someone has died as a result of using a lethal combination of drugs.
What is QT or QT interval?
The QT interval is a measurement made on an electrocardiogram. An abnormally long QT interval is associated with an increased risk of developing abnormal heart rhythms and sudden cardiac death. To simply put it, its the time the heart takes to recharge after a beat. When this is prolonged over a certain time it can lead to arrhythmia. For 70% of the population this will lead to fainting and the heart will automatically reboot itself and you will come back (it is unknown why the heart is able to recover). For 30% of the population VF(Ventricular fibrillation ) occurs and there is sudden death.
Keyword: Torsades de pointes (TdP)
This is the type of arrhythmia you want to achieve to lead to "sudden death". Which is triggered mostly after a prolonged QT interval. I encourage everyone to look it up.
Torsades de pointes — 'twisting of the points.' In this arrhythmia, your heart's two lower chambers (ventricles) beat fast and chaotically, making the waves on an ECG monitor look twisted. Less blood is pumped out from your heart, so less blood reaches your brain, causing you to faint suddenly and, often, without any warning.
If a torsades de pointes episode is short — lasting less than one minute — your heart can correct itself and you regain consciousness on your own. However, if a torsades de pointes episode lasts longer, it can result in a sudden fainting spell followed by a full-body seizure. If the dangerous rhythm does not correct itself, then a life-threatening arrhythmia called ventricular fibrillation follows.
What is Ventricular Fibrillation (VF)?
Ultimately this is what we want to achieve. Ventricular fibrillation (Vf). This condition causes the ventricles to beat so fast that your heart quivers and ceases pumping blood. Unless your heart is shocked back into a normal rhythm by a defibrillator or AED in less than 3-10 minutes , ventricular fibrillation can lead to brain damage and sudden death. This is also what causes death in other suicide methods such as hanging, chloroquine ,amilityprine OD as well as hypothermia.
Obviously I still have much to learn, since im not a doctor, or physician, but just a simple man desperately researching through reading books, and searching the internet for clues. I was able to get this far doing just that. i hope people in this forum can use this info i provided and further find proofs and methods to die peacefully. I believe QT Prolongation, TdP and VF are some of key ideas that can lead to this.
Some links im going to drop here:
Drug-Induced QT Prolongation and Sudden Death
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Popular heartburn and anti-nausea drug taken by millions to be curtailed after nearly SIXTY die from heart problems after taking the medication
www.dailymail.co.uk
ventricular fibrillation leading death occuring during apneic underwater swimming:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Life-threatening ventricular tachycardia due to liquoriceinduced hypokalaemia
onlinelibrary.wiley.com
Drug-Induced QT Prolongation And Torsades de Pointes
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Due to my urgency, I have recently been heavily looking into "sudden death" thinking it would be the best way to go because its instant and painless. I've heard of people dieing in their sleep peacefully and never waking up again , other reports where people just collapse and die. I questioned how this was possible? My readings have lead me to the heart of the matter (no pun intended). I believe the heart is the key to ending life, stopping it for a period and causing brain death which is the first organ effected after a heart failure is the key to a complete death. This is why hanging is one of the most reliable methods as we are blocking the heart from pumping blood to the brain and then causing heart failure then brain death soon afterwards. Once brain death is confirmed you can be sure you will never come back. Hanging though is a gruesome method not many of us want to be associated with. Fortunately there are many ways to stop the heart, one of the ways which i see as somewhat reliable is to prolong the QT interval (see below for definition) using various drugs and methods. Although it isn't mentioned specifically, I believe QT prolongation is the main cause of death in several other suicide methods, such as chloroquine ,amilityprine OD as well as hypothermia. Knowing this will give you a better understanding of why these methods lead to death and how you can improve upon them when you are to carry it out. The drugs chloroquine and amilityprine are all listed as drugs to avoid to prevent QT prolongation: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6192813/. Keeping this concept (QT prolongation) in mind I believe there are ways to potentiate methods like chloroquine OD. For example, although in the PPeH metoclopramide is recommended for cloroquine OD, it would be more suitable to use domperidone since its one of the listed drugs that cause the QT prolongation in combination with cloroquine (which also causes a long qt). Going on a 2 week fasting beforehand to further prolong the interval should be recommend as well (this has also been confirmed to slow down the heart and extend the qt interval). Another thing to note is QT prolongation mostly occurs when you are rested or relaxed. There are so many drug combinations that can lead to this (There is even a list being compiled here: https://crediblemeds.org/index.php/login/dlcheck , you have to register to access it), but obviously none of them have been tried except a few so we can't be sure how it will turn out, but you can also look up cases where someone has died as a result of using a lethal combination of drugs.
What is QT or QT interval?
The QT interval is a measurement made on an electrocardiogram. An abnormally long QT interval is associated with an increased risk of developing abnormal heart rhythms and sudden cardiac death. To simply put it, its the time the heart takes to recharge after a beat. When this is prolonged over a certain time it can lead to arrhythmia. For 70% of the population this will lead to fainting and the heart will automatically reboot itself and you will come back (it is unknown why the heart is able to recover). For 30% of the population VF(Ventricular fibrillation ) occurs and there is sudden death.
Keyword: Torsades de pointes (TdP)
This is the type of arrhythmia you want to achieve to lead to "sudden death". Which is triggered mostly after a prolonged QT interval. I encourage everyone to look it up.
Torsades de pointes — 'twisting of the points.' In this arrhythmia, your heart's two lower chambers (ventricles) beat fast and chaotically, making the waves on an ECG monitor look twisted. Less blood is pumped out from your heart, so less blood reaches your brain, causing you to faint suddenly and, often, without any warning.
If a torsades de pointes episode is short — lasting less than one minute — your heart can correct itself and you regain consciousness on your own. However, if a torsades de pointes episode lasts longer, it can result in a sudden fainting spell followed by a full-body seizure. If the dangerous rhythm does not correct itself, then a life-threatening arrhythmia called ventricular fibrillation follows.
What is Ventricular Fibrillation (VF)?
Ultimately this is what we want to achieve. Ventricular fibrillation (Vf). This condition causes the ventricles to beat so fast that your heart quivers and ceases pumping blood. Unless your heart is shocked back into a normal rhythm by a defibrillator or AED in less than 3-10 minutes , ventricular fibrillation can lead to brain damage and sudden death. This is also what causes death in other suicide methods such as hanging, chloroquine ,amilityprine OD as well as hypothermia.
Obviously I still have much to learn, since im not a doctor, or physician, but just a simple man desperately researching through reading books, and searching the internet for clues. I was able to get this far doing just that. i hope people in this forum can use this info i provided and further find proofs and methods to die peacefully. I believe QT Prolongation, TdP and VF are some of key ideas that can lead to this.
Some links im going to drop here:
Drug-Induced QT Prolongation and Sudden Death
Drug-Induced QT Prolongation and Sudden Death
Prolongation of the QT interval can predispose to a potentially fatal polymorphic ventricular tachycardia called torsades de pointes (TdP). Although usually self-limited, TdP may degenerate into ventricular fibrillation and cause sudden death. Some medications ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Popular heartburn and anti-nausea drug taken by millions to be curtailed after nearly SIXTY die from heart problems after taking the medication
Popular drug to be curtailed after nearly 60 die from heart problems
Domperidone, also known as Motilium is to be restricted following a European review, which found 57 people have died and 342 suffered serious side effects after taking the medication.
ventricular fibrillation leading death occuring during apneic underwater swimming:
[Ventricular fibrillation following hyperventilation and apneic underwater swimming] - PubMed
This is a case study of an 18 years old boy who lost consciousness during apneic underwater swimming. When cardiopulmonary resuscitation was initiated ventricular fibrillation was seen on cardiac monitoring. Bradycardia, atrial and ventricular premature beats are a known response to...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Life-threatening ventricular tachycardia due to liquoriceinduced hypokalaemia
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Drug-Induced QT Prolongation And Torsades de Pointes
Drug-Induced QT Prolongation And Torsades de Pointes
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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