glitterypearls

glitterypearls

sing me to sleep
Mar 23, 2023
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I been looking into the train method after the SN things today to see if it's truly horrible or not. for education purpose I guess. I ended up reading about a promising athlete "Tiffany" who had an episode on Unsolved Mysteries by Netflix, you wonder why? because it's clear cut suicide by train, but her family refuse to accept that so they came out with every excuse on why it's a murder. wasted so many resources to prove that and yet they still didn't prove it. they kept saying how happy she is, how she had a bright future and blah blah. when in reality allegedly she self harm, broke up with her GF two days before the train suicide, her mom is allegedly abusive (got CPS called 3 times) and she is an 18yo girl who got accused of stealing her friend credit card in front of her mom (the same night she stood in front of the train and committed suicide) her mom told her "I'm going to go get your dad" so when the mom went inside the house for few mins. Tiffany made a run for it to the train area. she is 18yo who felt embarrassed from stealing her friend credit card and probably stressed out from being always perfect for her future and heartbroken from the break up

how far would families go just to make themselves feel better? what difference is it if your son/daughter died by suicide or murder? does it make your pain less? does that bring them back? does make them PERFECT if it wasn't suicide? or is it just your selfish reasons so no one blame you as a parent? it got me into thinking that my family do the same. they will ignore the signs. claim i'm happy just because I'm academically successful and then say I didn't commit suicide.

but this got me to think about the method too. train seems to be successful if your SI didn't kick in. if you are impulsive, emotional and think your life is over then it will be successful but if you have doubts and SI kick in then it will fail. If it didn't traumatize the driver it would be my method. maybe if it's all fail It will be my method. sorry if the post isn't related I wanted to tell this to like-minded people who struggle with such families. somehow everyone think she was murdered when everything points to suicide just because to everyone suicide is shameful and if you smile and laugh around people they will assume you aren't depressed enough to take your own life. pathetic insensitive world.
 
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warriorofeld

warriorofeld

Traveller, beyond this marker lies midworld
Mar 22, 2023
129
Denial maybe why they couldn't accept it as suicide. There's been a few documented cases of ctb by train where I live as they regularly run through and its not my first choice but if I'm pushed into a corner after my first two options then I will have no choice. Feel bad for the driver and I really don't wanna do it..
 
AndroidAmongHumans

AndroidAmongHumans

Full Bodily Autonomy is non-negotiable
Apr 27, 2023
27
I think part of it is also the mom wants to save face. So many of the families who deny that someone died by suicide have patterns of long term dysfunctionality and abuse, so if the family can pretend the suicide was a tragic accident or a murder they can say they're the victims who had someone they care for taken from them. But if they were truthful and acknowledged the person was suicidal, they'd have to open up about their home life and be honest with themselves about the environment they created for their kids, and they'd rather see themselves as a victim of cruel fate and random murders than as one of the many contributors to someone's decision to end it all.
 
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Uncensored

Uncensored

Call yourself considerate and force me to suffer
Mar 2, 2023
13
A lot of parents blame themselves for not "raising their kid right" and believe its their fault for their kids death when they ctb. The denial could come from not wanting to blame themselves or accept that they made a mistake, or it could come from the idea that other people will see them a dysfunctional family as another user said. They may want to maintain a public image and not want a family members suicide to affect it. Its really shitty that some people care more about the publics view than their own family.
 
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sulli

sulli

Student
Jan 25, 2023
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i saw a video i really liked on twitter of a girl CTB by train and felt so jealous of her but have to acknowledge it may have been a horrible death after she jumped onto the tracks. i guess when i was watching i pictured instant oblivion but ofc it's rarely that simple

i can totally imagine my family doing that, my grandmother in particular. not because she thinks i'm above suicide, her opinion of me couldn't possibly be lower & she has described me as the root of all evil before, but because she thinks of me as an incompetent child who can't possibly think for themselves enough to make such a difficult decision. my state issued IDs all have the wrong eye color on them because when i was getting my permit at 18, she hovered behind me and when i answered 'green' she yelled that they were actually blue (they aren't). when i got kicked out of trade school for being a dumbass she refused to accept that i fucked it up all by myself and spent weeks demanding to know who was actually the bad influence that convinced me to do such a thing. ugh, sorry, this has turned into a rant bc i've never really talked to anyone about these things, didn't mean to spill my guts all over your thread :') i'm beyond positive she'd try to frame it as a murder if i did it by train. one of my aunts died falling down an elevator shaft (kek) and she did the exact same thing then
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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It's not even surprising that people would act in such a way but at least the person who died is now free from all suffering. I admire those with the courage for the train method, it sounds terrifying to me.
 

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