bigj75

bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
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The stress of having to find a non painful method and one that is simple would be so much better than what we are doing now. Having to hide, lie, worry about the police, etc. It's all too much.

It's such a horrible reality. Just a peaceful death is all i want but that's too much to ask for. If it was legal i would have done it by now. I would have gotten sn and drank it or hung myself by now.
 
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JustAboutDone

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I've never been able to understand that we can take our animals to the vet when they are suffering sand have them gently put to sleep but not humans. Ridiculous
 
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stellabelle

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Not to mention less people would be traumatized by discovering a corpse.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Not to mention less people would be traumatized by discovering a corpse.

Yes! They could just incinerate us at the vets with the dogs and hamsters. Genius idea!
 
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bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
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I've never been able to understand that we can take our animals to the vet when they are suffering sand have them gently put to sleep but not humans. Ridiculous
I think it's all about money and people's emotions getting in the way of logic.

If my dog got rabies or was suffering putting him down would be the right thing to do in everyone's mind. But when it comes to people it's like logic goes out the window.
 
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stellabelle

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I prefer not to be mixed amongst animals myself
 
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anonymous23x

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The stress of having to find a non painful method and one that is simple would be so much better than what we are doing now. Having to hide, lie, worry about the police, etc. It's all too much.

It's such a horrible reality. Just a peaceful death is all i want but that's too much to ask for. If it was legal i would have done it by now. I would have gotten sn and drank it or hung myself by now.

Honestly, if it was legal i would be in the exact same position that i'm in now... but maybe that's just me.

Some police officers are actually uneducated idiots... a "friend" of mine called them because he thought i was about to ctb... the police came and accused me of a whole bunch of bullshit which got a massive court case which is finished now... but means nothing, and the records of that case which can't be deleted from everywhere, added to the reasons that i will ctb when the thing i'm waiting on goes wrong as i expect it to
 
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TAW122

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If it was legal, then I would be gone on a whim. Perhaps I might just live a bit longer to try everything before truly just walking into a suicide clinic and finally ending my suffering. At the very least, it would certainly give me a peace of mind that I never had to begin with in the first place.
 
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Final Escape

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I've never been able to understand that we can take our animals to the vet when they are suffering sand have them gently put to sleep but not humans. Ridiculous
It's certainly not because there is no demand for this service. It's because a lot of miserable people would quit life. I bet most wouldn't but just knowing there's a way out would help u cope. A lot of the economy would be impacted. Less tax payers, less consumers. If you can take your life at any time it would really empower people and alter how we live.
 
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Hopeless_soul

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Jan 3, 2019
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Wouldn't make a difference for me personally. Getting the methods wasn't the hard part...it's doing it. I don't want to die, don't think anyone REALLY does, we just want the pain to end so we feel pressured. If I could go to a clinic and get a "death shot" or buy a "death pill" at a pharmacy/chemist it's not like it would really change anything for me...I'd still not want to take it and survival instinct doesn't care if something is legal or not.

Yeah. What you say reminded me of this girl. She had everything at her disposal, yet at the end, SI was stronger than anything:



Spoiler: they have added a part at the end, where it says that she finally passed away last year. Well, anyways, it shows that SI is very strong and that even people who, in theory, have everything accessible to die, it's a personal decision more than anything...
 
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Chinaski

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Popular myth, I'm afraid. I don't know when the last person to be sentenced to death for attempting suicide was, but it won't have been after the 1861 reform act which reduced the number of offences punishable by death to 5 (none of them suicide), and very probably not after the 1823 act which allowed a sentencing judge to commute death penalties for any offence that was not treason or murder. The UK did decriminalise suicide relatively late, but the last person prosecuted for attempting to ctb was fined £15 in the late 1950s, and this was because he had a firearm.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Popular myth, I'm afraid. I don't know when the last person to be sentenced to death for attempting suicide was, but it won't have been after the 1861 reform act which reduced the number of offences punishable by death to 5 (none of them suicide), and very probably not after the 1823 act which allowed a sentencing judge to commute death penalties for any offence that was not treason or murder. The UK did decriminalise suicide relatively late, but the last person prosecuted for attempting to ctb was fined £15 in the late 1950s, and this was because
he had a firearm.

How can people not find your eloquence and almost Rain Man quality of dispensing knowledge endearing ❤️
 
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Johnnythefox

Que sera sera
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GeorgeEastman

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Sep 3, 2018
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Sentenced to death for it makes me think about how life couldn't be much worse even if I got rescued. Locked up, snowed under, banished from the workforce, labeled disabled, whatever.

It all sucks anyway. The magnitude of the sucking is pretty much the same no matter what.
 
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HellinHeaven

HellinHeaven

seeking for salvation
Jan 12, 2019
63

That's exactly my humor. You just do a totally retarded suicide attempt and let professionals dispatch the rest if you failed. Even so you don't need to fear to be a gimp for the rest of your life. We should start a petition to reintroduce this law again.
 
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How can people not find your eloquence and almost Rain Man quality of dispensing knowledge endearing ❤️

I could've gone further and explained how the UK's chief executioner was himself prosecuted for attempting to ctb in the 1920s (perhaps 1930s), but walked free from court. Sentencing him to death would've been interesting, as he'd very possibly be the executioner responsible for carrying it out, and the UK could've been responsible for the first legal assisted suicide by sheer accident.
 
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Ayeitsalaska

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Dec 19, 2018
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Just like the systematic oppression of abusing animals in the meat, dairy and egg industry it all comes down to societies beliefs. If a person is in incurable emotional or physical pain I personally think they should have the choice.
 
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HelensNepenthe

HelensNepenthe

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Jan 17, 2019
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I've never been able to understand that we can take our animals to the vet when they are suffering sand have them gently put to sleep but not humans. Ridiculous
I just put my dog down the other month ago because of her aggressive behavior (probably caused by her incurable skin infection) and they put N in her. Off she went in a couple minutes. Very peaceful. She didn't even struggle.

Fuck, I wish it was that easy for us. Damn do I miss her. She'd always be there for me in the darkest of times.

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Stupid how we can't voluntarily put ourselves down. Our system is so fucked.
 
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Oct 23, 2018
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I don't think the Euthanasia of animals is a model we want to follow and then apply to humans. Simply because animals get put down for reasons that have nothing to do with quality of life or even sickness. Animals barely have any rights either. I would much prefer robust Euthanasia legislation modelled on human needs with a core focus on quality of life concerns. That also has safeguards to limit societal coercion and economic reasoning being used, presenting euthanasia as the less costly option to say, palliative care.
 
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Chinaski

Chinaski

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That also has safeguards to limit societal coercion and economic reasoning being used, presenting euthanasia as the less costly option to say, palliative care.

This is absolutely crucial to any pro-euthanasia argument, in fact I'd go a step further and replace the word "limit" to "prevent".

Voluntary euthanasia in the UK under the Tories would lead to two things. 1) the erosion of funding into the already neglected social care budget which comes nowhere near close to meeting the needs of an ageing population, and 2) a nudge towards euthanasia being promoted within the NHS as a compassionate replacement for expensive and risky treatment.

When you throw in a third factor, which is how our national pastime of stigmatising anyone who seems to be reliant upon the welfare state has become almost a cultural cornerstone and this would subtly be extended towards the elderly or infirm who have the temerity to choose expensive life rather than economically sound death. We already have a government who are literally driving people to suicide with their policies. Euthanasia may be presented as "compassionate", but as they say, fascism doesn't greet you in its jackboots, and I'm very, very careful what l wish for.
 
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bigj75

bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
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Wouldn't make a difference for me personally. Getting the methods wasn't the hard part...it's doing it. I don't want to die, don't think anyone REALLY does, we just want the pain to end so we feel pressured. If I could go to a clinic and get a "death shot" or buy a "death pill" at a pharmacy/chemist it's not like it would really change anything for me...I'd still not want to take it and survival instinct doesn't care if something is legal or not.
For me i would be happy taking it. Im not saying survival instinct would go away but a pill or shot that makes it that easy and painless would be a huge load off my back.
 
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JustAboutDone

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I just put my dog down the other month ago because of her aggressive behavior (probably caused by her incurable skin infection) and they put N in her. Off she went in a couple minutes. Very peaceful. She didn't even struggle.

Fuck, I wish it was that easy for us. Damn do I miss her. She'd always be there for me in the darkest of times.

2v9zssZ.jpg

Stupid how we can't voluntarily put ourselves down. Our system is so fucked.

I'm so sorry for you to lose your beloved dog. She is lovely. Thank you for sharing the photo x
 
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HelensNepenthe

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Jan 17, 2019
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I'm so sorry for you to lose your beloved dog. She is lovely. Thank you for sharing the photo x
Thank you. I knew that her final days were coming so I decided to make her favorite meal, in addition the hour before putting her down giving her some treats. She loved these soft chewable bones we'd pick out for her other amigos in the house.

I miss her dearly. She seemed to really understand the pain I'm in. Even if she couldn't actually verbally communicate with me, she'd lie her head down on my lap and kiss the salt+sweat on my body. Which I always thought of as a way of showing her level of love for me. We'd have a daily routine every night of me kissing her head before she goes to sleep. Because I never knew if one of these nights were going to be her last. Fortunately, the morning before we put her down, I got to share that same intimate moment with her.

I'm sure she'd love each and every one of you all.
 
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Volatile

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Jun 18, 2018
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That seems to be the real Golden Age. All you have to do is put a noose around your neck and the authorities will make sure it works
 
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RyanSuicide

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Jan 7, 2019
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The stress of having to find a non painful method and one that is simple would be so much better than what we are doing now. Having to hide, lie, worry about the police, etc. It's all too much.

It's such a horrible reality. Just a peaceful death is all i want but that's too much to ask for. If it was legal i would have done it by now. I would have gotten sn and drank it or hung myself by now.
If it was legal you probably wouldn't have hung yourself by now. Is it the law that is stopping you?
 
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bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
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If it was legal you probably wouldn't have hung yourself by now. Is it the law that is stopping you?
It's more so fear of a unsuccessful method. I think if suicide was legal a successful method everyone could take would be easily distributed so the success rate would increase. Having to smuggle sn, guns, or a rope is hectic enough but worrying about them not working and ending up in jail or disabled pushes me to delirium.
 
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