im Still not convinced that starvation is a terrible option

[stupidldiot]

the fact is that a lot of people have done it voluntarily. not always old and sick people and not always with doctor supervision. ive done a fair bit of research on it, and there have been many cases of anorexics getting themselves very close to death even and beyond.
it does seem to depend on how you do it, two young fashion model sisters died from malnutrition seemingly within weeks of one another, one just after leaving a catwalk. rest in peace. my point is that if it was constant unrelenting agony then how could they function like that? and it also seems unlike what ive seen some people say here, you dont turn into an unthinking animal that will literally eat anything after a certain point. one woman said what she was going through was hell but she still went through with it to completion.
i just wonder if i could get the right appetite suppressing meds and sedatives say i could just keep myself as unconscious as possible throughout the ordeal. also as for going blind that apparently is not down to starvation per se as it is a vitamin a and b deficiency that starvation obviously would make worse. with a supplement that could be countered.
ive also read another study saying starvation isnt painful or uncomfortable at all because ultimately its a natural death and the human body has painkilling chemicals to deal with such a death

Starvation is Not Painful, Experts Say - Redorbit

After suffering through cancer, the middle-age woman decided her illness was too much to bear. Everything she ate, she painfully vomited back up. The prospect of surgery and a colostomy bag held no appeal. And so, against the advice of her doctors, the patient decided to stop eating and drinking.

www.redorbit.com

ultimately my point is that starvation probably is fairly awful but a lot less awful for someone who is used to hunger and that wants to die. having seen footage of many of the other suicide methods im kind of put off. hanging looks bloody terrifying and that looks like one of the better options.

 

[its-about-time]

It's a lot more complicated than you make it out to be. Supplements don't get absorbed in your body when you're malnourished so that idea is out, the pain of starvation is very much present in anorexia but the mental illness twists it into a euphoria you couldn't achieve without having the mental illness yourself, etc. But at the end of the day, not eating will eventually kill you, most likely through cardiac arrest or organ failure. People have done it intentionally in the absence of famine and eating disorders. It would be very difficult, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. If you're so set on this as a method, nobody here is stopping you or changing your mind, it's not what most people would choose but I am positive you'd receive support here no matter what.

 

[Pau MP]

Definitely it is. Look up those IRA members who died by starvation back in the 80's. It took them more than two months to pass away. Blind, deaf, emaciated, literally suffering. Their last weeks were extremely painful for them. Several friends of mine went through starvation as a protest and they gave up in three/four weeks. It is not a walk in the park.

 

[Al_stargate]

Starvation is extremely hard. If you ever fasted for any time you'll know how difficult it is. Dying of thirst is more reasonable. There was a vegan guy not so long ago who was doing dry fasting, that is no food and no water. He died in sleep on day four. But another guy on youtube did dry fasting for I think 8 days and documented everything and was fine. So hard to tell.

 

[stupidldiot]

Definitely it is. Look up those IRA members who died by starvation back in the 80's. It took them more than two months to pass away. Blind, deaf, emaciated, literally suffering. Their last weeks were extremely painful for them. Several friends of mine went through starvation as a protest and they gave up in three/four weeks. It is not a walk in the park.

well actually having looked into that case, ONE member went blind, and as i say it is thought it was a vitamin deficiency he already had. deafness wasnt mentioned. as for the level of suffering so i've heard you get sore and painful limbs, BUT you also spend a lot of time unconscious and even when conscious youre in an altered state which to me sounds acceptable.

Starvation is extremely hard. If you ever fasted for any time you'll know how difficult it is. Dying of thirst is more reasonable. There was a vegan guy not so long ago who was doing dry fasting, that is no food and no water. He died in sleep on day four. But another guy on youtube did dry fasting for I think 8 days and documented everything and was fine. So hard to tell.

yes if and when i need to do this it would be dry fasting. i have been trying out fasting certainly ive tried several days without food, not as an attempt but just to feel for myself what some of the effects are and to save money

 

[Pau MP]

well actually having looked into that case, ONE member went blind, and as i say it is thought it was a vitamin deficiency he already had.

That's not true. Sands was a healthy person with no health issues prior to his imprisonment. Their final weeks were brutal, at least five or six IRA members died that way, most of them blind, deaf and enduring a great deal of pain along the way. It is well documented. They were committed to their cause and really determined to end their lifes by starving themselves. Anyone who really wants to starve to death without a strong commitment will fail. Period. I wouldn't recommend this method at all.

 

[jawdropped123]

the fact is that a lot of people have done it voluntarily. not always old and sick people and not always with doctor supervision. ive done a fair bit of research on it, and there have been many cases of anorexics getting themselves very close to death even and beyond.
it does seem to depend on how you do it, two young fashion model sisters died from malnutrition seemingly within weeks of one another, one just after leaving a catwalk. rest in peace. my point is that if it was constant unrelenting agony then how could they function like that? and it also seems unlike what ive seen some people say here, you dont turn into an unthinking animal that will literally eat anything after a certain point. one woman said what she was going through was hell but she still went through with it to completion.
i just wonder if i could get the right appetite suppressing meds and sedatives say i could just keep myself as unconscious as possible throughout the ordeal. also as for going blind that apparently is not down to starvation per se as it is a vitamin a and b deficiency that starvation obviously would make worse. with a supplement that could be countered.
ive also read another study saying starvation isnt painful or uncomfortable at all because ultimately its a natural death and the human body has painkilling chemicals to deal with such a death

Starvation is Not Painful, Experts Say - Redorbit

After suffering through cancer, the middle-age woman decided her illness was too much to bear. Everything she ate, she painfully vomited back up. The prospect of surgery and a colostomy bag held no appeal. And so, against the advice of her doctors, the patient decided to stop eating and drinking.

www.redorbit.com

ultimately my point is that starvation probably is fairly awful but a lot less awful for someone who is used to hunger and that wants to die. having seen footage of many of the other suicide methods im kind of put off. hanging looks bloody terrifying and that looks like one of the better options.

Starvation is actually a quite painful method it also take a long time. So you will probably give up half way. Ive starved and dehydrated mysslf for about 2.5 days and the days go by so slow and at one poin you give up because youre unable to walk your heart will start beating fast out if no where random sharp chest pain. It puts you in survival mode. Even if you want to die you wouldnt want to have a heart attach. Also you might faint from time to time and if someone that cares about you notice that they will hospitalize you and if you faint they will also hospitalize you and tube feed you unconscious so its pointless anyways

 

[its-about-time]

Starvation is actually a quite painful method it also take a long time. So you will probably give up half way. Ive starved and dehydrated mysslf for about 2.5 days and the days go by so slow and at one poin you give up because youre unable to walk your heart will start beating fast out if no where random sharp chest pain. It puts you in survival mode. Even if you want to die you wouldnt want to have a heart attach. Also you might faint from time to time and if someone that cares about you notice that they will hospitalize you and if you faint they will also hospitalize you and tube feed you unconscious so its pointless anyways

Pretty much on the nose. OP has made numerous posts about death by starvation and just seems hell bent. They don't believe anything we say about how horrible it is. So, my suggestion to @stupididiot is to try it and find out for themselves. I'd give a very small percentage chance of success and a high chance of loved ones needing to get involved and/or hospitalization (mental ward or physical). But they'll never know until they try, and if it's worth the risk and horrible experience, then god speed to them!

 

[jawdropped123]

Pretty much on the nose. OP has made numerous posts about death by starvation and just seems hell bent. They don't believe anything we say about how horrible it is. So, my suggestion to @stupididiot is to try it and find out for themselves. I'd give a very small percentage chance of success and a high chance of loved ones needing to get involved and/or hospitalization (mental ward or physical). But they'll never know until they try, and if it's worth the risk and horrible experience, then god speed to them!

I was also like this a couple of weeks ago so i understand that they are scared of trying other methods because with starvation, if youre having second thoughts you can just start eating when you want to. But you cant do that with N, SN hanging or jumping, there is no going back.

 

[GentleJerk]

Yeah nah. Jains say it is the ultimate test, and many of them scramble and cry out for water during their final days, but it is considered a great thing to fast until death so the family usually restrains the person, while they beat on drums and chant loudly to drown out the screams. Horrifying.

I question that article because they are trying to say it's more peaceful than assisted suicide, when nearly anybody who has witnessed assisted suicide says it is the most peaceful and humane way to go. If the workers in the hospices think that observing a death by fasting is peaceful and painless, it's probably because the person's functions have deteriorated so much that they can't think, talk, operate or put up a fight.

But then why do they mention that they have morphine they can use to help with possible pain?

 

[its-about-time]

I was also like this a couple of weeks ago so i understand that they are scared of trying other methods because with starvation, if youre having second thoughts you can just start eating when you want to. But you cant do that with N, SN hanging or jumping, there is no going back.

Yeah. With starvation there comes a point of it being dangerous to start eating again, it's called refeeding syndrome and has killed many, which is why recovering anorexics for example need medical supervision, and people who have been through horrifying involuntary prolonged starvation need to be medically supervised as well. But that's only if you get to a pretty intense level of starvation. Dying of referring syndrome is just as horrific a way to go. I like SN because there is an out, if I changed my mind it's fully treatable and little chance of permanent damage, but that's only if it's treated relatively quickly. With starvation there can be permanent damage. It's very sad to read about anorexics who recovered only to die a couple years later of organ failure.

Yeah nah. Jains say it is the ultimate test, and many of them scramble and cry out for water during their final days, but it is considered a great thing to fast until death so the family usually restrains the person, while they beat on drums and chant loudly to drown out the screams. Horrifying.

I question that article because they are trying to say it's more peaceful than assisted suicide, when nearly anybody who has witnessed assisted suicide says it is the most peaceful and humane way to go. If the workers in the hospices think that observing a death by fasting is peaceful and painless, it's probably because the person's functions have deteriorated so much that they can't think, talk, operate or put up a fight.

But then why do they mention that they have morphine they can use to help with possible pain?

Absolutely. VSED in an end of life hospice setting is NOT easy. It requires legal measures while the person is still of sound mind. Then the staff and family have to prevent the person from eating and drinking. They reach a point of delirium and beg for nutrition or water but are denied. It's really a bit of a grey area legally in my mind. They're pumped full of pain and anxiety meds to help them not care that they're starving to death. It must be extremely difficult to witness let alone take part in as a care taker. The only time I imagine it's relatively peaceful is when the patient is so far gone that they remain largely unconscious. But OP is not at the end stages of terminal illness to my knowledge, so any chance of it being relatively peaceful is null.

 

[stupidldiot]

well actually having looked into that case, ONE member went blind, and as i say it is thought it was a vitamin deficiency he already had.

yes if and when i need to do this it would be dry fasting.

ok iThat's not true. Sands was a healthy person with no health issues prior to his imprisonment. Their final weeks were brutal, at least five or six IRA members died that way, most of them blind, deaf and enduring a great deal of pain along the way. It is well documented. They were committed to their cause and really determined to end their lifes by starving themselves. Anyone who really wants to starve to death without a strong commitment will fail. Period. I wouldn't recommend this method at all.

Yeah. With starvation there comes a point of it being dangerous to start eating again, it's called refeeding syndrome and has killed many, which is why recovering anorexics for example need medical supervision, and people who have been through horrifying involuntary prolonged starvation need to be medically supervised as well. But that's only if you get to a pretty intense level of starvation. Dying of referring syndrome is just as horrific a way to go. I like SN because there is an out, if I changed my mind it's fully treatable and little chance of permanent damage, but that's only if it's treated relatively quickly. With starvation there can be permanent damage. It's very sad to read about anorexics who recovered only to die a couple years later of organ failure.

Absolutely. VSED in an end of life hospice setting is NOT easy. It requires legal measures while the person is still of sound mind. Then the staff and family have to prevent the person from eating and drinking. They reach a point of delirium and beg for nutrition or water but are denied. It's really a bit of a grey area legally in my mind. They're pumped full of pain and anxiety meds to help them not care that they're starving to death. It must be extremely difficult to witness let alone take part in as a care taker. The only time I imagine it's relatively peaceful is when the patient is so far gone that they remain largely unconscious. But OP is not at the end stages of terminal illness to my knowledge, so any chance of it being relatively peaceful is null.

"They reach a point of delirium and beg for nutrition or water but are denied"

"They're pumped full of pain and anxiety meds to help them not care that they're starving to death"

how do you know for sure either of those things are commonplace?

 

[its-about-time]

"They reach a point of delirium and beg for nutrition or water but are denied"

"They're pumped full of pain and anxiety meds to help them not care that they're starving to death"

how do you know for sure either of those things are commonplace?

Google. I've done a lot of research on VSED. Look up as many case studies as you can. Look for scientific articles not just people describing what their loved one went through. Loved ones omit suffering. Scientists do not. You may find stories from hospice caretakers as well that are pretty honest.

Think of it like the PPH. That handbook pretty much swears so many methods are wonderful and peaceful and painless and even euphoric. Then you read accounts of people who have actually done it and find that this is absolutely not the case. VSED is touted as a humane and peaceful natural death. The truth couldn't be further from that.

 

[symphony]

I tried this (sort of). The last time I was involuntarily hospitalized, I was completely uncooperative. As part of that, I refused all food and water. One of my motives for that was hoping it would kill me, although I had other motives too. It lasted about three days. I don't remember much of how it made me feel, but really I don't remember much of that period at all.

What I do remember is that at the end, I was forcibly transferred to the ER to receive IV fluids. I was angry at first and didn't accept that I was doing "that bad" or whatever. Shortly later I realized I'd become so weak that I couldn't even sit up in bed. I remember not feeling hungry at all and having to force myself to eat.

Edit: I had read about VSED in the weeks before trying this. I have no idea how I would have physically felt if this had continued past those first few days.

 

[stupidldiot]

I was also like this a couple of weeks ago so i understand that they are scared of trying other methods because with starvation, if youre having second thoughts you can just start eating when you want to. But you cant do that with N, SN hanging or jumping, there is no going back.

I tried this (sort of). The last time I was involuntarily hospitalized, I was completely uncooperative. As part of that, I refused all food and water. One of my motives for that was hoping it would kill me, although I had other motives too. It lasted about three days. I don't remember much of how it made me feel, but really I don't remember much of that period at all.

What I do remember is that at the end, I was forcibly transferred to the ER to receive IV fluids. I was angry at first and didn't accept that I was doing "that bad" or whatever. Shortly later I realized I'd become so weak that I couldn't even sit up in bed. I remember not feeling hungry at all and having to force myself to eat.

Edit: I had read about VSED in the weeks before trying this. I have no idea how I would have physically felt if this had continued past those first few days.

Google. I've done a lot of research on VSED. Look up as many case studies as you can. Look for scientific articles not just people describing what their loved one went through. Loved ones omit suffering. Scientists do not. You may find stories from hospice caretakers as well that are pretty honest.

Think of it like the PPH. That handbook pretty much swears so many methods are wonderful and peaceful and painless and even euphoric. Then you read accounts of people who have actually done it and find that this is absolutely not the case. VSED is touted as a humane and peaceful natural death. The truth couldn't be further from that.

well i have read accounts of the method im considering and it does seem to be a mixed bag. chest and stomache pain i can live with, i dont like the idea of going blind though although really if that did happen i would have to accept that it was part of the dying process which is the end goal in any case. it would also mean i wouldnt and wouldnt be able to back out of it by that stage anyway.

 

[symphony]

well i have read accounts of the method im considering and it does seem to be a mixed bag. chest and stomache pain i can live with, i dont like the idea of going blind though although really if that did happen i would have to accept that it was part of the dying process which is the end goal in any case. it would also mean i wouldnt and wouldnt be able to back out of it by that stage anyway.

That's fair, I guess VSED is an option, but personally it would never be an appealing option for me because (1) it takes so long and you have to be 100% dedicated to it the entire time and (2) there's at least a decent chance of pain or at least discomfort. There are attainable methods out there that are much faster and more peaceful.

 

[its-about-time]

well i have read accounts of the method im considering and it does seem to be a mixed bag. chest and stomache pain i can live with, i dont like the idea of going blind though although really if that did happen i would have to accept that it was part of the dying process which is the end goal in any case. it would also mean i wouldnt and wouldnt be able to back out of it by that stage anyway.

Lol it's so much more than chest and stomach pain. You haven't done enough research. And no research will cause you to feel what it's really like. I don't think anybody will convince you this is a bad idea so I'm not sure why you're asking for people to convince you. I say just go for it. Stop eating for a few weeks and see what it feels like, or stop drinking for a week too and see how that adds to it. Keep in mind your body's metabolism will slow WAY down and eating a couple crackers a day will prolong the dying process by months. I'm being a little harsh because this is such a personal and sensitive topic to me, but I believe in what I'm saying here. You want to go for this method, then go for this method. It's a horrific thing to experience, but most people don't make it far enough into starvation to truly see how horrific it becomes.

 

[UnravelingWinter]

Mentioned in another thread that I've tried VSED and got to almost 4 days without water before stopping, but it's just too slow a process. You feel weak and tired constantly, but it feels impossible to sleep as much as you feel you need to. I took a 5 minute slow walk to the store and felt completely out of breath. In an air conditioned home, it can take up to 8-10 days to kill you from dehydration. From personal experience though, I don't think I would have gone into a coma until day 6. That's a lot of needless suffering.

 

[TheWood]

Definitely it is. Look up those IRA members who died by starvation back in the 80's. It took them more than two months to pass away. Blind, deaf, emaciated, literally suffering. Their last weeks were extremely painful for them. Several friends of mine went through starvation as a protest and they gave up in three/four weeks. It is not a walk in the park.

I didn't know that starvation led to becoming blind and deaf as well

 

[Pau MP]

I didn't know that starvation led to becoming blind and deaf as well

Due to nutritional deficiencies I suppose...

 

[TheWood]

Due to nutritional deficiencies I suppose...

Honestly I don't think that's the case for everyone, each body reacts differently. For ex. not all anorexics die blind or deaf

 

[its-about-time]

Honestly I don't think that's the case for everyone, each body reacts differently. For ex. not all anorexics die blind or deaf

Anorexics generally still eat, just a very small amount. They're much more likely to die from organ failure and cardiac arrest as a result from malnutrition. The metabolism slows WAY down in starvation to preserve calories so eating only a couple hundred cals a day can be sustained for quite some time. In this method the idea is to consume zero calories so the effects are much more severe and can absolutely disrupt functions like sight and hearing.

Mentioned in another thread that I've tried VSED and got to almost 4 days without water before stopping, but it's just too slow a process. You feel weak and tired constantly, but it feels impossible to sleep as much as you feel you need to. I took a 5 minute slow walk to the store and felt completely out of breath. In an air conditioned home, it can take up to 8-10 days to kill you from dehydration. From personal experience though, I don't think I would have gone into a coma until day 6. That's a lot of needless suffering.

I haven't tried VSED but I did go through anorexia and I can confirm this experience. I was still eating 300 cals/day by the end and I could hardly move. Sleep was difficult to obtain and even when I slept I always felt so drained. Any more intense movement caused fainting and vomiting. My mental functions were so far gone, I was delusional and so stressed out. It's seriously the worst. I was drinking water though. Without water I can imagine it would only be worse. This is the most painful, distressing, most prolonged method I can think of, it strikes me as outrageous that someone would consider it as a way to commit suicide, I think it's destined to fail even if they tried. But some passionate people have succeeded with it, so who knows. I wasn't doing it for passionate reasons, I was just anorexic, but I know it's possible. If I hadn't gotten help I doubt I would've survived more than a couple more months.

 

[TheWood]

Anorexics generally still eat, just a very small amount. They're much more likely to die from organ failure and cardiac arrest as a result from malnutrition. The metabolism slows WAY down in starvation to preserve calories so eating only a couple hundred cals a day can be sustained for quite some time. In this method the idea is to consume zero calories so the effects are much more severe and can absolutely disrupt functions like sight and hearing.

Thanks for the explanation. Interesting

 

[jawdropped123]

well i have read accounts of the method im considering and it does seem to be a mixed bag. chest and stomache pain i can live with, i dont like the idea of going blind though although really if that did happen i would have to accept that it was part of the dying process which is the end goal in any case. it would also mean i wouldnt and wouldnt be able to back out of it by that stage anyway.

It will take longer tho because youre a healthy person :/. Well i wish you all the best.

 

[Al Cappella]

Ya, no. Very, very unlikely—for all the reasons already mentioned. The problem, too, because it takes so long, you'd have to be completely isolated, or folks will intervene. Most likely, though, is ending up hospitalized because your electrolytes are buggered, or you've crashed due to lack of sugar. I mean ppl do fast for periods of a month (or more if very heavy), but beyond that…

Have you ever tried fasting for any length? By day 3 I was dreaming of pork chops and cake. Constantly. Ironically, by day 4 that went away, and I felt amazing. I managed a week, spending most of it in bed. Your blood pressure crashes, and you're at risk of passing out if you get up too quickly.

To do it for the 8 or more weeks it would take…by week 6 you're rolling about in your own poop because you don't have the strength to look after yourself. No thanks.

 

[stupidldiot]

yeah youve all finally convinced me its a terrible option. however with a tweak not eating at least could be used in conjunction with another option which ive read isnt a bad one, and that is death by hypothermia. you dont need to actually be cold to the point where you have frostbite, just prolonged cold a bit over 0 degrees C will do the trick even, can use drugs and alcohol to not feel the cold. being partially starved will only help you become cold.
Right now i await all the answers telling me this too is a torturous and near impossible way to go.

 

[dudeitsdarren]

the fact is that a lot of people have done it voluntarily. not always old and sick people and not always with doctor supervision. ive done a fair bit of research on it, and there have been many cases of anorexics getting themselves very close to death even and beyond.
it does seem to depend on how you do it, two young fashion model sisters died from malnutrition seemingly within weeks of one another, one just after leaving a catwalk. rest in peace. my point is that if it was constant unrelenting agony then how could they function like that? and it also seems unlike what ive seen some people say here, you dont turn into an unthinking animal that will literally eat anything after a certain point. one woman said what she was going through was hell but she still went through with it to completion.
i just wonder if i could get the right appetite suppressing meds and sedatives say i could just keep myself as unconscious as possible throughout the ordeal. also as for going blind that apparently is not down to starvation per se as it is a vitamin a and b deficiency that starvation obviously would make worse. with a supplement that could be countered.
ive also read another study saying starvation isnt painful or uncomfortable at all because ultimately its a natural death and the human body has painkilling chemicals to deal with such a death

Starvation is Not Painful, Experts Say - Redorbit

After suffering through cancer, the middle-age woman decided her illness was too much to bear. Everything she ate, she painfully vomited back up. The prospect of surgery and a colostomy bag held no appeal. And so, against the advice of her doctors, the patient decided to stop eating and drinking.

www.redorbit.com

ultimately my point is that starvation probably is fairly awful but a lot less awful for someone who is used to hunger and that wants to die. having seen footage of many of the other suicide methods im kind of put off. hanging looks bloody terrifying and that looks like one of the better options

.

Just try it for a week and see how fucked it is.
I get hangry if I don't have breakfast lol
Adderall is the only way I don't eat for 3 days

yeah youve all finally convinced me its a terrible option. however with a tweak not eating at least could be used in conjunction with another option which ive read isnt a bad one, and that is death by hypothermia. you dont need to actually be cold to the point where you have frostbite, just prolonged cold a bit over 0 degrees C will do the trick even, can use drugs and alcohol to not feel the cold. being partially starved will only help you become cold.
Right now i await all the answers telling me this too is a torturous and near impossible way to go.

Hypothermia is terrible too.

I'm convinced jumping or CO are the only ways

 

[stupidldiot]

Just try it for a week and see how fucked it is.
I get hangry if I don't have breakfast lol
Adderall is the only way I don't eat for 3 days

Hypothermia is terrible too.

I'm convinced jumping or CO are the only ways

in what way is hypothermia terrible? if you can pass out from drink and drugs and lay down somewhere very cold then it should be fairly foolproof. its how many many homeless people meet their end. i used to think CO was a good option but now im convinced its one of the most unreliable methods possible. being undernourished and underweight will only help the cold get to you.

 

[cherry7]

the fact is that a lot of people have done it voluntarily. not always old and sick people and not always with doctor supervision. ive done a fair bit of research on it, and there have been many cases of anorexics getting themselves very close to death even and beyond.
it does seem to depend on how you do it, two young fashion model sisters died from malnutrition seemingly within weeks of one another, one just after leaving a catwalk. rest in peace. my point is that if it was constant unrelenting agony then how could they function like that? and it also seems unlike what ive seen some people say here, you dont turn into an unthinking animal that will literally eat anything after a certain point. one woman said what she was going through was hell but she still went through with it to completion.
i just wonder if i could get the right appetite suppressing meds and sedatives say i could just keep myself as unconscious as possible throughout the ordeal. also as for going blind that apparently is not down to starvation per se as it is a vitamin a and b deficiency that starvation obviously would make worse. with a supplement that could be countered.
ive also read another study saying starvation isnt painful or uncomfortable at all because ultimately its a natural death and the human body has painkilling chemicals to deal with such a death

Starvation is Not Painful, Experts Say - Redorbit

After suffering through cancer, the middle-age woman decided her illness was too much to bear. Everything she ate, she painfully vomited back up. The prospect of surgery and a colostomy bag held no appeal. And so, against the advice of her doctors, the patient decided to stop eating and drinking.

www.redorbit.com

ultimately my point is that starvation probably is fairly awful but a lot less awful for someone who is used to hunger and that wants to die. having seen footage of many of the other suicide methods im kind of put off. hanging looks bloody terrifying and that looks like one of the better options.

Curious what types of sedatives and appetite suppressors you had in mind?

 

[WorthlessCoward]

Starve yourself then, let's see that skellington