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MidnightDream

MidnightDream

Warlock
Sep 5, 2022
737
I think I've fucked up, and I'm scared.

I've always had issues with impulsivity, having been diagnosed with BPD at a young age and later also autism.

For me, this is almost like having another person living in my brain, which is just solely focused on trying to hurt me. On a daily basis, whilst I'm aware that I do have a relationship with the concept of suicide, I'm able to rationalise and not really think about it too much, especially now that I do have a plan and source in place. That brings me great comfort, and even strength, as I move through life.
However, every so often that other person will come out, often with no trigger or trauma response, and I have no control over that. And when I'm in that state, ALL i can focus on, is suicide. Absolutely no SI, complete tunnel vision, it's both terrifying and beautiful at the same time.

As I mentioned in my first ever post here, this has led to multiple shoddy & obviously unsuccessful attempts. I'm not even sure you could even call them attempts, however each one has gotten progressively more dangerous, and the consequences have gotten higher each time (permanent damage, police involvement, etc). I came to this site with the goal of teaching myself that impulsive wasn't the way, and trying to condition even that other side of my brain that impulse isn't the way to go, to hold out and to plan. Perhaps in a feeble attempt to safeguard myself, not because I don't want to ctb, but because I don't want to die in a state where I can't even rationalise why, where I can't even see or function as a normal human being. I don't want that side of me to take that decision away from actual me. I had hoped that research and formulating a concrete, but detailed, plan would allow the 'real' me to take some of that control back and fight back when I'm in that state.

Well, I had my first 'episode' the other night since I started this. Unlike usual, tt was triggered by a tangible thing (a random comment from a stranger), and combined with alcohol and drug use, this created a very dangerous situation for me. I haven't yet purchased the method I have planned, and I had hoped that this might pose a barrier to the other me, and force me to do something productive - ie, purchase the item, engage in more research, etc - rather than do anything harmful. Well, it did the exact opposite - She panicked. She went, for a lack of better word, feral. Not only did I cause myself physical harm, I rang for help. Of course, I didn't receive it, but this is now logged on my permanent health record.

I went for a doctors appointment today about something physical, and not only did the doctor refuse to discuss any form of medication with me as a result, he spent the entire appointment trying to convince me to make an appointment for my mental health. I was confused, until I saw my health summary on the side of his screen. The first 2 things in bold letters 'suicidal ideation' 'intentional self harm' and 'suicidal plans'. Fuming. I'm so angry at myself. I was at the doctors with a friend, and after hearing all of this, she forced me to make the appointment, which was only an hour later. I tried to keep it vague at this 2nd appointment, laugh it off, emphasise the rationality, but she didn't believe me and I'm now an urgent referral to the mental health team.

Fuck my life. This isn't what I wanted. I just wanted peace, to safeguard myself long enough to be able to make the right decision for me in the time I wish to make it. Now I've fucked everything up. I hate myself, I hate the other version of me, I don't understand why she's trying to destroy me and my life. Maybe I should just do what she wants and get it over with. Maybe that'll be for the best.
 
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makethepainstop

makethepainstop

Visionary
Sep 16, 2022
2,029
I think I've fucked up, and I'm scared.

I've always had issues with impulsivity, having been diagnosed with BPD at a young age and later also autism.

For me, this is almost like having another person living in my brain, which is just solely focused on trying to hurt me. On a daily basis, whilst I'm aware that I do have a relationship with the concept of suicide, I'm able to rationalise and not really think about it too much, especially now that I do have a plan and source in place. That brings me great comfort, and even strength, as I move through life.
However, every so often that other person will come out, often with no trigger or trauma response, and I have no control over that. And when I'm in that state, ALL i can focus on, is suicide. Absolutely no SI, complete tunnel vision, it's both terrifying and beautiful at the same time.

As I mentioned in my first ever post here, this has led to multiple shoddy & obviously unsuccessful attempts. I'm not even sure you could even call them attempts, however each one has gotten progressively more dangerous, and the consequences have gotten higher each time (permanent damage, police involvement, etc). I came to this site with the goal of teaching myself that impulsive wasn't the way, and trying to condition even that other side of my brain that impulse isn't the way to go, to hold out and to plan. Perhaps in a feeble attempt to safeguard myself, not because I don't want to ctb, but because I don't want to die in a state where I can't even rationalise why, where I can't even see or function as a normal human being. I don't want that side of me to take that decision away from actual me. I had hoped that research and formulating a concrete, but detailed, plan would allow the 'real' me to take some of that control back and fight back when I'm in that state.

Well, I had my first 'episode' the other night since I started this. Unlike usual, tt was triggered by a tangible thing (a random comment from a stranger), and combined with alcohol and drug use, this created a very dangerous situation for me. I haven't yet purchased the method I have planned, and I had hoped that this might pose a barrier to the other me, and force me to do something productive - ie, purchase the item, engage in more research, etc - rather than do anything harmful. Well, it did the exact opposite - She panicked. She went, for a lack of better word, feral. Not only did I cause myself physical harm, I rang for help. Of course, I didn't receive it, but this is now logged on my permanent health record.

I went for a doctors appointment today about something physical, and not only did the doctor refuse to discuss any form of medication with me as a result, he spent the entire appointment trying to convince me to make an appointment for my mental health. I was confused, until I saw my health summary on the side of his screen. The first 2 things in bold letters 'suicidal ideation' 'intentional self harm' and 'suicidal plans'. Fuming. I'm so angry at myself. I was at the doctors with a friend, and after hearing all of this, she forced me to make the appointment, which was only an hour later. I tried to keep it vague at this 2nd appointment, laugh it off, emphasise the rationality, but she didn't believe me and I'm now an urgent referral to the mental health team.

Fuck my life. This isn't what I wanted. I just wanted peace, to safeguard myself long enough to be able to make the right decision for me in the time I wish to make it. Now I've fucked everything up. I hate myself, I hate the other version of me, I don't understand why she's trying to destroy me and my life. Maybe I should just do what she wants and get it over with. Maybe that'll be for the best.
Sometimes it is well to look beyond immediate feeling's, to see the true reality.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,477
That must be really tiring and awful what you are going through. Such a thing as peace could never exist in a life like this. I'm sorry that you are trapped in this situation.
 
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hopelessgirl

hopelessgirl

Mage
Oct 12, 2021
508
You explained it so perfectly... I read it all. Don't know how to help you though... Maybe you could have like a mantra or something for you to say when that other person comes out. Just a random suggestion
 
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MidnightDream

MidnightDream

Warlock
Sep 5, 2022
737
You explained it so perfectly... I read it all. Don't know how to help you though... Maybe you could have like a mantra or something for you to say when that other person comes out. Just a random suggestion
Thank you so much, I really appreciate you saying that! That's not a bad idea, maybe post it notes or a note on my phone or something? I'll have to look into it
 
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hopelessgirl

hopelessgirl

Mage
Oct 12, 2021
508
Maybe you could try setting a date so that you have a plan? That way you'd be less tempted to be impulsive
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Maybe you could try setting a date so that you have a plan? That way you'd be less tempted to be impulsive
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There you go the Measurement
 
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Leemel

Leemel

Member
Sep 30, 2022
20
I'm not scared of myself I just hate myself.
 
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Hollowillow

Hollowillow

The only place that allows negative feelings.
Aug 7, 2022
1,515
I think I've fucked up, and I'm scared.

I've always had issues with impulsivity, having been diagnosed with BPD at a young age and later also autism.

For me, this is almost like having another person living in my brain, which is just solely focused on trying to hurt me. On a daily basis, whilst I'm aware that I do have a relationship with the concept of suicide, I'm able to rationalise and not really think about it too much, especially now that I do have a plan and source in place. That brings me great comfort, and even strength, as I move through life.
However, every so often that other person will come out, often with no trigger or trauma response, and I have no control over that. And when I'm in that state, ALL i can focus on, is suicide. Absolutely no SI, complete tunnel vision, it's both terrifying and beautiful at the same time.

As I mentioned in my first ever post here, this has led to multiple shoddy & obviously unsuccessful attempts. I'm not even sure you could even call them attempts, however each one has gotten progressively more dangerous, and the consequences have gotten higher each time (permanent damage, police involvement, etc). I came to this site with the goal of teaching myself that impulsive wasn't the way, and trying to condition even that other side of my brain that impulse isn't the way to go, to hold out and to plan. Perhaps in a feeble attempt to safeguard myself, not because I don't want to ctb, but because I don't want to die in a state where I can't even rationalise why, where I can't even see or function as a normal human being. I don't want that side of me to take that decision away from actual me. I had hoped that research and formulating a concrete, but detailed, plan would allow the 'real' me to take some of that control back and fight back when I'm in that state.

Well, I had my first 'episode' the other night since I started this. Unlike usual, tt was triggered by a tangible thing (a random comment from a stranger), and combined with alcohol and drug use, this created a very dangerous situation for me. I haven't yet purchased the method I have planned, and I had hoped that this might pose a barrier to the other me, and force me to do something productive - ie, purchase the item, engage in more research, etc - rather than do anything harmful. Well, it did the exact opposite - She panicked. She went, for a lack of better word, feral. Not only did I cause myself physical harm, I rang for help. Of course, I didn't receive it, but this is now logged on my permanent health record.

I went for a doctors appointment today about something physical, and not only did the doctor refuse to discuss any form of medication with me as a result, he spent the entire appointment trying to convince me to make an appointment for my mental health. I was confused, until I saw my health summary on the side of his screen. The first 2 things in bold letters 'suicidal ideation' 'intentional self harm' and 'suicidal plans'. Fuming. I'm so angry at myself. I was at the doctors with a friend, and after hearing all of this, she forced me to make the appointment, which was only an hour later. I tried to keep it vague at this 2nd appointment, laugh it off, emphasise the rationality, but she didn't believe me and I'm now an urgent referral to the mental health team.

Fuck my life. This isn't what I wanted. I just wanted peace, to safeguard myself long enough to be able to make the right decision for me in the time I wish to make it. Now I've fucked everything up. I hate myself, I hate the other version of me, I don't understand why she's trying to destroy me and my life. Maybe I should just do what she wants and get it over with. Maybe that'll be for the best.
Aww sweetheart... I had something similar.

We have 3 brains. Not 1. The emotional, rational and primal (SI)

If the brain doesn't have enough:
  • Fuel (reactive hypoglycemia)
  • Oxygen (red blood cells carriers are made with Vitamin B,C,iron)
  • Rest
  • Or is poisonned (Drugs AND alcohol and you think you lose control because you're crazy or bad? No! You're poisonned!)
It cannot fonction at It's full potential. It has to sacrifice things.

I think it's your SI. Mine craved blood & to kill my enemies. I was raised by a narcissist to belueve that I don't deserve anything else except pain.

When you feel attacked, your SI doesn't have the right to flee (except in death) doesn't have the right to attack (except yourself)

It's heart breaking...

Reading about the manipulations techniques of narcs, boubdaries, self defense class

I gave permission to my SI to kill if my life is in danger. It was. Compared to murder, fleeing & self care stopped to seem selfish & evil.

For me it's my emotional brain who wish to die... But I think you need to give permission to defend yourself. So your anger won't turn against you.

Narcissists teach to be perfect & devoted even if it kills us... SI demand to do whatever it rakes to fill our vital needs.

That's why we come from 1 extreme to the other. Because abusive people taught us to bottle up until we die... Or explode with lors of repressed rage.

We have traumas that ripped our sense of self again. I'm still trying to reach self acceptance & unite my sides.

First thing is a clear mind. No drugs. I use vitamins instead. B for energy. C & magnesium for calm. It helps heal too.

Good luck
Eat a steak?
And loads of greens
 
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MidnightDream

MidnightDream

Warlock
Sep 5, 2022
737
Aww sweetheart... I had something similar.

We have 3 brains. Not 1. The emotional, rational and primal (SI)

If the brain doesn't have enough:
  • Fuel (reactive hypoglycemia)
  • Oxygen (red blood cells carriers are made with Vitamin B,C,iron)
  • Rest
  • Or is poisonned (Drugs AND alcohol and you think you lose control because you're crazy or bad? No! You're poisonned!)
It cannot fonction at It's full potential. It has to sacrifice things.

I think it's your SI. Mine craved blood & to kill my enemies. I was raised by a narcissist to belueve that I don't deserve anything else except pain.

When you feel attacked, your SI doesn't have the right to flee (except in death) doesn't have the right to attack (except yourself)

It's heart breaking...

Reading about the manipulations techniques of narcs, boubdaries, self defense class

I gave permission to my SI to kill if my life is in danger. It was. Compared to murder, fleeing & self care stopped to seem selfish & evil.

For me it's my emotional brain who wish to die... But I think you need to give permission to defend yourself. So your anger won't turn against you.

Narcissists teach to be perfect & devoted even if it kills us... SI demand to do whatever it rakes to fill our vital needs.

That's why we come from 1 extreme to the other. Because abusive people taught us to bottle up until we die... Or explode with lors of repressed rage.

We have traumas that ripped our sense of self again. I'm still trying to reach self acceptance & unite my sides.

First thing is a clear mind. No drugs. I use vitamins instead. B for energy. C & magnesium for calm. It helps heal too.

Good luck
Eat a steak?
And loads of greens
Wow, thank you. This is profoundly helpful. I've never considered it that way at all. Thank you so much for sharing your experience, and for writing this comment. You've given me a new perspective to ponder, whilst validating my situation and also helping me feel less alone all in one. Sober & healthy is definitely the way to go, but I never really saw much point before reading this. Maybe I'll give it a real go this time. Thank you so much, I actually can't express in words how much I appreciate you taking the time to comment this.
 

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