i'm really scared about using sn, cause once you drink it, there's no turning back

[NothingElseMatters]

i'm very impulsive, so when i realize thwt i'm actualy dying, i think i'll panick

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

You can vomit it up which may fail the attempt .

Probably the best way to back out would be to have puke drugs - emetics

 

[Ethereal Knight]

Probably the best way to back out would be to have puke drugs - emetics

that's not true. the substance may have already been absorbed once you vomit. usually people use 25g or more and that's a lot. 9g is already considered lethal to humans.

the best way to be saved is to be at the hospital, tell someone you ingested sodium nitrite and ask for the antidote methylene blue. this antidote really works.

to OP: but have you considered that, if you know that you're gonna panic once you realize that you're actually dying, maybe it's because you don't really want to CTB?
I don't know of course, as I don't know you, but this is a possiblity worth considering.

 

[its-about-time]

You CAN abort SN and that's why I kinda like it. People have been successfully "saved" hours after ingesting SN. As long as medics are called and figure out to give you the antidote, you'll be just fine within a day. Seems like no real permanent damage except significantly increasing the risk of gastric cancer down the line. Vomiting will NOT guarantee that you won't die so you (or whoever found you) would need to call medics no matter what. 1g is lethal and most here are taking 20g+.

If you gulped down a ton of SN, panicked 10 minutes later, then called the emergency line and told them what you've taken, I'd bet money that you'd be just fine. However there's always the possibility that you'd still die. Taking SN is not a good way to demonstrate that you need more help. It will kill you if you don't receive medical assistance. You may be too drowsy to call for help if you changed your mind after it begins to take effect. That would be a horrible way to go.

I too will likely take mine impulsively, and I'm relying on benzos and sedatives to keep me from panicking after ingestion. However I'm comforted by the knowledge that if I quickly changed my mind, I'd have a shot at reversing the death sentence. That's because I'm not 100% sold on suicide, and I think you aren't either. It's worth holding off for as long as this is a concern. I'm trying to take my own advice too.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

there were reports of people dying at the hospital even with medical assistance.

hospitals aren't necessarily stocking methylene blue.

doctors aren't used to it, because by now (2022), sodium nitrite poisoning remains rare (yes despite it being super popular in SS forums. if you look at the actual medical literature at pubmed or google scholar, it's considered rare, although a growing trend).
you may not be conscious enough to tell them what poison you drank.
and all kinds of things may happen.

also people have died after just tasting tiny amounts of SN to see how it tastes like, which means it's highly lethal.

I'd say that, if you know that you're probably gonna want to abort an attempt, SN is actually a bad option.

for theatrical attempts, SN is even worse.

so my opinion is: don't mess with SN unless you really want to catch the bus!

 

[Parnate]

Keep methylene blue at hand. I have drank an ample of methylene blue once it tastes a bit weird but nothing big

 

[willitpass]

i survived taking SN. i told my boyfriend i was dying and he called them ambulance. i was given methylene blue. i don't know the time frame of it all but i believe it was probably 45-an hour after ingestion that i was given methylene blue. of course it varies greatly from person to person

 

[Chiisai]

i'm very impulsive, so when i realize thwt i'm actualy dying, i think i'll panick

Same here man. Still scares me.

 

[lostmylove]

there were reports of people dying at the hospital even with medical assistance.

hospitals aren't necessarily stocking methylene blue.

doctors aren't used to it, because by now (2022), sodium nitrite poisoning remains rare (yes despite it being super popular in SS forums. if you look at the actual medical literature at pubmed or google scholar, it's considered rare, although a growing trend).
you may not be conscious enough to tell them what poison you drank.
and all kinds of things may happen.

also people have died after just tasting tiny amounts of SN to see how it tastes like, which means it's highly lethal.

I'd say that, if you know that you're probably gonna want to abort an attempt, SN is actually a bad option.

for theatrical attempts, SN is even worse.

so my opinion is: don't mess with SN unless you really want to catch the bus!

Sn will totally kill destroy a person , people take like x10 lethal dose too These methods are found with intent of doing the job not accounting for people backing out

 

[sunny/omori]

I dont understand why some says if you survive with medical assitance u will not have any sequela. Your organs including your brain isnt getting enough oxygen and literally dying. You will have to live with the consequenses or multiple organ failure. This is why I dont like that SN has an antidote.

 

[8AEM]

I can always go back because I can regurgitate liquids from my stomach on command. That scares me because I don't want to panic and chicken out last minute.

 

[indigomoon]

I used to work in a Level 1 trauma center and I can tell you that not everyone has methylene blue. We did because we were the largest hospital in the state. But our sister hospital doesn't regularly carry it. And some ER residents may not know what the antidote is for SN because they are so inexperienced. And with SN you know that it is a time sensitive issue. It really is just whatever luck you may have that day.

 

[Shu]

i survived taking SN. i told my boyfriend i was dying and he called them ambulance. i was given methylene blue. i don't know the time frame of it all but i believe it was probably 45-an hour after ingestion that i was given methylene blue. of course it varies greatly from person to person

Did you lose consciousness?

 

[willitpass]

Did you lose consciousness?

yes. i had to be given cpr and was intubated. i'm pretty young and healthy (or was before i had covid) so i bounced back quickly and was out of the ICU within 18 hours

 

[Shu]

yes. i had to be given cpr and was intubated. i'm pretty young and healthy (or was before i had covid) so i bounced back quickly and was out of the ICU within 18 hours

I'm glad you're okay and was saved. How long after you drank it did you lose consciousness you think? How much did you drink? Did you do it on impulse?

 

[NothingElseMatters]

Keep methylene blue at hand. I have drank an ample of methylene blue once it tastes a bit weird but nothing big

i have no idea where to get this.

 

[demuic]

You will have to live with the consequenses or multiple organ failure.

And what evidence do you have for this?

 

[Shu]

yes. i had to be given cpr and was intubated. i'm pretty young and healthy (or was before i had covid) so i bounced back quickly and was out of the ICU within 18 hours

I found your thread nevermind

 

[Cathy Ames]

i have no idea where to get this.

It's not going to help you with SN overdose unless injected IV.

 

[sunny/omori]

And what evidence do you have for this?

Just basic physiologic knowledge. I am a MD. How do you think death occurs? It is not a binary switch (healthy alive and dead the next second). There is other results in between. Some organs are very resilient but sadly brain cells are the most vulnerable to hipoxia.

I agree with Ethereal Knight. It would be a difficult diagnostic and even knowing the cause right away the result would depend on so many variables (especially time since ingestion, dose, disponibility of antidote).

I still dont know why someone in this forum would want a antidote. If he/she dont want to die why use this nasty but effective method. I am considering SN myself but I my goal is succesfully ctb, rather try my luck for get in the ICU.

 

[demuic]

Just basic physiologic knowledge. I am a MD. How do you think death occurs? It is not binary (healthy or death). There is other results in between. Some organs are very resilient but sadly brain cells are the most vulnerable to hipoxia.

So essentially this is just your own speculation.

 

[sunny/omori]

So essentially this is just your own speculation.

Just my professional opinion. I dont have aleatorized double-blind experimental studies yet. But I am not the one saying if you call the ambulance and get methylene blue you are gonna be okay as nothing has happened and you didnt have a hipoxic shock. Maybe you have luck and dont have any evident sequela, maybe you sucesfully ctb, maybe either.

You can try that if you want, but is irresponsible thing to say is a safe and reversible method if you get methylene blue. I will ask you the same question: what evidence do you have for this?

 

[Shu]

Just my professional opinion. I dont have aleatorized double-blind experimental studies yet. But I am not the one saying if you call the ambulance and get methylene blue you are gonna be okay as nothing has happened and you didnt have a hipoxic shock. Maybe you have luck and dont have any evident sequela, maybe you sucesfully ctb, maybe either.

You can try that if you want, but is irresponsible thing to say is a safe and reversible method if you get methylene blue. I will ask you the same question: what evidence do you have for this?

Just going by what most people are saying but there have been people reporting having organ damage. One guy has to go and have his heart checked every month or something.

 

[unkuto]

I don't believe either that SN failure will have no consequences. Maybe not visible or observable consequences.
I'm not a doctor but what other guy said above about hypoxia makes total sense.

 

[Cathy Ames]

Just going by what most people are saying but there have been people reporting having organ damage. One guy has to go and have his heart checked every month or something.

The one I recall is @icetea15, except it was ONE follow-up appointment, only, their heart was fine, and that was it.

 

[willitpass]

And what evidence do you have for this?

i may have been lucky enough to avoid any long term consequences but it's pretty basic biology. if your body is deprived of oxygen, which is what SN does as it prevents iron in your blood from carrying oxygen, then your vital organs will not be oxygenated, thus very likely to begin to die and not recover. i am the anomaly here, not the norm

 

[StringPuppet]

Make sure you have a phone near by to call 911, I think it will take some time for the SN to kick in so you'll have a chance to call them if you change your mind.

I hope it's not inappropriate to say but reading some of responses make me feel kind of glad that SN is so lethal after a certain amount of time, one of my biggest fears is it simply not working when I'm ready to exit.

 

[Shu]

The one I recall is @icetea15, except it was ONE follow-up appointment, only, their heart was fine, and that was it.

@A Hole was it you?

 

[Cathy Ames]

i may have been lucky enough to avoid any long term consequences but it's pretty basic biology. if your body is deprived of oxygen, which is what SN does as it prevents iron in your blood from carrying oxygen, then your vital organs will not be oxygenated, thus very likely to begin to die and not recover. i am the anomaly here, not the norm

There may be a "bias" working here. Like, the only people who come back and talk on the forum about surviving are the ones who aren't badly damaged. It seems a no brainer that you shouldn't take this stuff unless you do wish to die. This isn't an item to use as a cry for help or some such. On the other hand, if you do change your mind immediately after taking it, it is POSSIBLE that you can be saved. BTW, people can also be saved after taking N, which also works via hypoxia. You can find reports of failed suicide attempts with either of these on Pubmed.

 

[Symbiote]

@A Hole was it you?

No, I have a heart check every 3 months. I have an irregular heart beat made worse by an SN attempt followed by rapid administration of meth blue.