I'm expected to fight for disability income now.

[Zzzzz]

I don't have the will to live, and yet I am required to fight for my disability income,so I don't end up homeless again or starving to death. Because EVERYTHING in this cesspool society revolves around and goes back to money. Life means nothing. It's all about the money. I honestly don't think I have the strength to fight this battle. Tomorrow I'm supposed to be searching for a doctor to represent me and provide evidence to the government that I'm disabled via mental illness. Last time I told them I was suicidal for years and had multiple attempts and they still rejected my application because money and policy's. Even If I win, I still won't be happy. I'll just barely be getting by. I will never have a day where I think wow I'm so happy I'm alive rather than dead. I have not thought that once in 10 years.

 

[noaccount]

I'm sorry. I think they decline most people's applications the first time and just kind of as-a-standard-practice make everyone go through an appeal or two, like most people who get it get it by appealing a couple times, it's insanely evil basically - but it's not you and it's not a final rejection so don't give up! And if you have any savings I'd hide them, as like cash in a personal safe/lockbox, or maybe some in a paypal balance instead of a bank account, because they also do the evil thing of not starting your disability payments until you have "less than $2k in savings." Good luck!

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I'm sorry. I think they decline most people's applications the first time and just kind of as-a-standard-practice make everyone go through an appeal or two, like most people who get it get it by appealing a couple times, it's insanely evil basically - but it's not you and it's not a final rejection so don't give up! And if you have any savings I'd hide them, as like cash in a personal safe/lockbox, or maybe some in a paypal balance instead of a bank account, because they also do the evil thing of not starting your disability payments until you have "less than $2k in savings." Good luck!

This isn't true for disability (SSDI). It's only true for welfare (SSI).

 

[GentleJerk]

This is deplorable, you are 100% right, money is the bottom line and people's quality of life is often deemed unimportant in comparison. My daughter's mother and I had to fight for every scrap of assistance my girl has received for having cerebral palsy and profound disability. Within the disability support services, those who are in top positions are often people who would be better of working for an insurance firm, with extensive training and experience in withholding funding and as many services as possible.

We have been in multiple battles with government axe-men whose main purpose is to attempt to deny as much assistance as possible to my daughter, they no doubt have bosses with political agendas that expect the disability services employees to lie, deceive, and knock back assistance to clients in order to save as much money as possible.

We have experienced first hand, many unfortunate cases of people who are fully entitled to receive disability pension, that have been made to jump through endless hoops, unfairly knocked back or straight-up lied to and told they cannot receive it. Without an intimate knowledge of the processes and criteria involved with applying, it's nearly impossible to know your rights, as they try very hard to restrict proper access to this information. When left in the dark, they can easily manipulate and lie to you.

We even know of one woman who looked after her son with severe brain damage, paying from her own pocket and fundraising thousands of dollars for treatment and wheelchairs, for nearly 7 years before accidentally discovering that she indeed should have been receiving disability carer support pension and national funding for this from day one. This happened because when she tried to begin the process 7 years ago, she was knocked back and told her son did not qualify, and accepted this.

I know it's very tiring and disheartening, especially when you are already struggling as it is, but I believe this difficult process is deliberately designed with the hopes of deterring as many people as possible from accessing the services in order to save time, money and resources. If you just keep trying, keep advocating for yourself, and dont give up, you will eventually succeed. The squeaky wheel certainly gets the grease in this case.

I hope you can navigate through this minefield and come out the other end in one piece, with the support you deserve.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Get a disability lawyer. You don't have to pay them unless you win.

 

[Zzzzz]

This is deplorable, you are 100% right, money is the bottom line and people's quality of life is often deemed unimportant in comparison. My daughter's mother and I had to fight for every scrap of assistance my girl has received for having cerebral palsy and profound disability. Within the disability support services, those who are in top positions are often people who would be better of working for an insurance firm, with extensive training and experience in withholding funding and as many services as possible.

We have been in multiple battles with government axe-men whose main purpose is to attempt to deny as much assistance as possible to my daughter, they no doubt have bosses with political agendas that expect the disability services employees to lie, deceive, and knock back assistance to clients in order to save as much money as possible.

We have experienced first hand, many unfortunate cases of people who are fully entitled to receive disability pension, that have been made to jump through endless hoops, unfairly knocked back or straight-up lied to and told they cannot receive it. Without an intimate knowledge of the processes and criteria involved with applying, it's nearly impossible to know your rights, as they try very hard not to let you access this information. When left in the dark, they can easily lie to you and manipulate.

We even know of one woman who looked after her son with severe brain damage, paying from her own pocket and fundraising thousands of dollars for treatment and wheelchairs, for nearly 7 years before accidentally discovering that she indeed should have been receiving disability carer support pension and national funding for this from day one. This happened because when she tried to begin the process 7 years ago, she was knocked back and told her son did not qualify, and accepted this.

I know it's very tiring and disheartening, especially when you are already struggling as it is, but I believe this difficult process is deliberately designed with the hopes of deterring as many people as possible from accessing the services. If you just keep trying, keep advocating for yourself, and dont give up, you will eventually succeed. The squeaky wheel certainly gets the grease in this case.

I hope you can navigate through this minefield and come out the other end in one piece, with the support you deserve.

That is horrible that people with disabilities of any kind must fight tooth and nail to have the assistance they need. Suicidal people should be included since society won't allow them to die freely and in peace. Yes I agree with what you say. The problem is the one thing I have to do is exactly what I feel incapable of doing. "Keep fighting."

! And if you have any savings I'd hide them, as like cash in a personal safe/lockbox, or maybe some in a paypal balance instead of a bank account, because they also do the evil thing of not starting your disability payments until you have "less than $2k in savings." Good luluck

I don't have to worry about that. I have $1 in my bank account. Lucky me!

 

[Nightmare Painting]

This is part of the reason why I finally decided to put an end to things a couple of years ago. I was denied disability and found therapy unhelpful if not downright harmful. I'd have to keep going back to therapy just to be able to prove my disability despite being disabled my entire life. Even if you do manage to get disability benefits it's basically a death sentence regardless because the money is nowhere near enough to live off of and you aren't allowed to save money.

If you have a invisible disability then nobody believes you and I'd go as far to say that most people at the disability office & the doctors think you're trying to taking advantage of the system. Yeah, most people are really going to take advantage for $6000 a year just to stay in a state of perpetual poverty! Even if someone is intentionally trying to take advantage; it means they're fucked up enough in the head to actually need it regardless. All this red tape just for a meager amount of money that isn't even enough for rent.

Society, the government, and the healthcare system can all go fuck themselves. It is all about money but the ironic part is that less money would've been spent just giving you disability benefits than the money spent on your suicide attempts.

 

[angiegirl30]

I don't have the will to live, and yet I am required to fight for my disability income,so I don't end up homeless again or starving to death. Because EVERYTHING in this cesspool society revolves around and goes back to money. Life means nothing. It's all about the money. I honestly don't think I have the strength to fight this battle. Tomorrow I'm supposed to be searching for a doctor to represent me and provide evidence to the government that I'm disabled via mental illness. Last time I told them I was suicidal for years and had multiple attempts and they still rejected my application because money and policy's. Even If I win, I still won't be happy. I'll just barely be getting by. I will never have a day where I think wow I'm so happy I'm alive rather than dead. I have not thought that once in 10 years.

I'm on disability due to a car accident. I was lucky and was able to have a disability lawyer represent me because the insurance of the guy that nearly killed me paid for it. If you can get a lawyer, do so. They will do all the work for you. But what I want to say is make sure you document everything. Any detail you can think of. Get ALL of your medical records. From every hospital and doctor that you've been to. If you are in counseling, keep going and don't miss any appointments. And get those records as well. Don't miss any doctors appointments either. The government looks down on those missed appointments. It is a lot of work to get the money that the government owes you. It shouldn't be. It will take several months to get a hearing date and then a few more months to get their decision. It's a pain I admit. And the money is nothing to what I used to make. But I have health insurance which is most important. If you have any questions let me know. Oh one other thing. I was on Medicaid while I was doing all of this so that may be something you want to look into. Especially if you need medical coverage.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

I don't have the will to live, and yet I am required to fight for my disability income,so I don't end up homeless again or starving to death. Because EVERYTHING in this cesspool society revolves around and goes back to money. Life means nothing. It's all about the money. I honestly don't think I have the strength to fight this battle. Tomorrow I'm supposed to be searching for a doctor to represent me and provide evidence to the government that I'm disabled via mental illness. Last time I told them I was suicidal for years and had multiple attempts and they still rejected my application because money and policy's. Even If I win, I still won't be happy. I'll just barely be getting by. I will never have a day where I think wow I'm so happy I'm alive rather than dead. I have not thought that once in 10 years.

I'm in the same boat. I don't have the energy to fight for disability. I barely have the will to go grocery shopping and feed myself. My family expects me to just be happy in poverty. But I prefer to ctb.

I'm sorry. I think they decline most people's applications the first time and just kind of as-a-standard-practice make everyone go through an appeal or two, like most people who get it get it by appealing a couple times, it's insanely evil basically - but it's not you and it's not a final rejection so don't give up! And if you have any savings I'd hide them, as like cash in a personal safe/lockbox, or maybe some in a paypal balance instead of a bank account, because they also do the evil thing of not starting your disability payments until you have "less than $2k in savings." Good luck!

I think the government is going to start monitoring paypal accounts.

 

[angiegirl30]

If you have a invisible disability then nobody believes you and I'd go as far to say that most people at the disability office & the doctors think you're trying to taking advantage of the system. Yeah, most people are really going to take advantage for $6000 a year just to stay in a state of perpetual poverty!

I have to say I think they consider each case individually. My disability was approved for both a physical disability as well as severe depression and PTSD. I have to prove every 7 years that I still qualify for benefits. Actually just finished up paperwork last year for it.

As far as the money you receive I was told that is based on what you have put into the Social Security system to begin with. Say that you are a lawyer and have worked for 10 years, you would get more money than someone who has worked for 10 years at a minimum wage job.

 

[Zzzzz]

I'm in the same boat. I don't have the energy to fight for disability. I barely have the will to go grocery shopping and feed myself. My family expects me to just be happy in poverty. But I prefer to ctb.

I have to say I feel suicidal every time I even think about getting this disability. I'm so much happier or relieved when I think about death. If living each day is struggle on its own... there's no way I'm going to be able to handle more on my plate.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

I have to say I feel suicidal every time I even think about getting this disability. I'm so much happier or relieved when I think about death. If living each day is struggle on its own... there's no way I'm going to be able to handle more on my plate.

I feel the same way. Hugs.

 

[Rogue Proxy]

I'm on disability due to a car accident. I was lucky and was able to have a disability lawyer represent me because the insurance of the guy that nearly killed me paid for it. If you can get a lawyer, do so. They will do all the work for you. But what I want to say is make sure you document everything. Any detail you can think of. Get ALL of your medical records. From every hospital and doctor that you've been to. If you are in counseling, keep going and don't miss any appointments. And get those records as well. Don't miss any doctors appointments either. The government looks down on those missed appointments. It is a lot of work to get the money that the government owes you. It shouldn't be. It will take several months to get a hearing date and then a few more months to get their decision. It's a pain I admit. And the money is nothing to what I used to make. But I have health insurance which is most important. If you have any questions let me know. Oh one other thing. I was on Medicaid while I was doing all of this so that may be something you want to look into. Especially if you need medical coverage.

May I please message you in private? I have a lot of questions and concerns about this issue.

 

[StarryStarry]

They normally deny the first request (because they are assholes). And you may need to hire a lawyer. I've seen too many cases where it is so evident that people are disabled but the government (U.S.) denies them disability funds (hell that would take away from the money that the politicians (attorneys) put in their pockets). It's just a big circle jerk. I wish you luck.

 

[angiegirl30]

May I please message you in private? I have a lot of questions and concerns about this issue.

Please do. Anytime.

 

[Zzzzz]

Cried myself to sleep again last night . Something is very very wrong with my life but I know anti depressants and therapy won't do anything to fix it.

 

[noaccount]

This isn't true for disability (SSDI). It's only true for welfare (SSI).

"How Often Does Social Security Deny Disability Applications on the First Try?
Nationwide, about 65% of all disability claims are denied on the first application filed with the Social Security Administration. And Social Security will keep denying you for disability at that rate if you continue to make new applications instead of filing an appeal. Generally, your goal is to eventually get your case heard by an administrative law judge (ALJ) at an appeal hearing, which gives you the best chance of winning.

The rate of denials is much lower after a hearing: about 35% of claims are denied at this stage (and around 20% are dismissed, meaning that about 45% are approved).

Why Is the Approval Rate Higher After a Hearing?

Time. Applicants' medical conditions often deteriorate while waiting a year or more for a hearing; by the time the hearing is held, they qualify as disabled. Similarly, applicants sometimes reach a higher age category while they wait for a hearing. Because of Social Security's grid rules, you're more likely to be awarded benefits when you are over the age of 50. Your chances improve even more when you reach the age of 55.

Legal help. Other denials are overturned at the hearing stage because the applicant hired a lawyer after getting a denial letter. Over two-thirds of claimants hire legal representation for the hearing, and those who had a lawyer are more than twice as likely to be approved for benefits as those without. (See our survey results on having a disability lawyer at the hearing.) Disability lawyers are trained to get the right evidence from the applicant's doctors, come up with convincing theories of disability, and find errors made by Social Security. In contrast, when the initial claims examiner is looking at your application at the state disability determination agency (DDS), there's no one to advocate for your case.

Politics. The doctors (called medical consultants, or MCs) who work at the state DDSs are sometimes more conservative than the doctors (called medical experts, or MEs) who are sometimes called to appear (usually by phone) at hearings. DDS medical consultants are often full-time staff employees at DDS, while the medical experts called for a hearing are often retired doctors who are paid on a consulting basis for each hearing. So having a DDS medical consultant weigh in on your case (maybe the twentieth case that week) makes it more likely that your claim will get denied the first time you apply. On the other hand, having a medical expert at your hearing can greatly improve your chances for an approval.

Humanity. Judges are human. When they meet an applicant in person and can connect a medical file to a face, and hear in the applicant's own words why the applicant can't work, they may be more likely to be convinced of the applicant's disability."

Does Social Security Disability Deny Everyone the First Time They Apply?

No, Social Security denies 65% of disability claimants after the initial application. The approval rate is higher after a hearing.

www.disabilitysecrets.com

 

[Looooser]

This isn't true for disability (SSDI). It's only true for welfare (SSI).

They won't ever consider my appeal for SSDI. I just got the letter today. Probably going the the station to ctb tonight

 

[noaccount]

They won't ever consider my appeal for SSDI. I just got the letter today. Probably going the the station to ctb tonight

If they decline your appeal you can go to a hearing with a judge, here this might help, a woman living on SSDI wrote it:

The Sleepy Girl Guide to Social Security Disability

A self-advocacy guide to Social Security Disability. This guide is designed for anyone who is homebound and for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Lyme Disease, POTS, EDS, MCAS, M…

howtogeton.wordpress.com

 

[Looooser]

It took me 9 years of fighting to get my SSDI. After a few years I was feeling better about myself and tried going back to work. The dumbest thing I ever did because I didn't fill out the right paperwork to go back to work so they took my disability away. I basically relapsed a few years later, suicide attempts, blah blah blah...... Now it's been about 3 years since I've worked and I'm fighting again to get my disability back. I got denied about 4 months ago, filed my appeal. I just got a letter saying they refuse to look at my appeal because I don't have new evidence. Was thinking I should go down to the social security office to sit myself in the head in the lobby. So pissed off right now!

 

[Zzzzz]

It took me 9 years of fighting to get my SSDI. After a few years I was feeling better about myself and tried going back to work. The dumbest thing I ever did because I didn't fill out the right paperwork to go back to work so they took my disability away. I basically relapsed a few years later, suicide attempts, blah blah blah...... Now it's been about 3 years since I've worked and I'm fighting again to get my disability back. I got denied about 4 months ago, filed my appeal. I just got a letter saying they refuse to look at my appeal because I don't have new evidence. Was thinking I should go down to the social security office to sit myself in the head in the lobby. So pissed off right now!

I'm sorry. That sounds awful. I think I partially understand how you feel. I get really angry sometimes because I know I deserve better than an unhappy life! And the will to keep going and dealing with shit you don't want to deal with is almost impossible to muster.

 

[Looooser]

I'm sorry. That sounds awful. I think I partially understand how you feel. I get really angry sometimes because I know I deserve better than an unhappy life! And the will to keep going and dealing with shit you don't want to deal with is almost impossible to muster.

The sad thing is that I know getting disability won't make me happy. But having money for gas to go to therapy, or stuff like that, that people seem to take for granted, would be nice. I had a counselor tell me I should join a gym. How does a person do that with no income what so ever? I told him to F off!

 

[Al Cappella]

Ya, me too. There's nothing like putting yourself at the mercy of the government to boost the spirits…

 

[Looooser]

If they decline your appeal you can go to a hearing with a judge, here this might help, a woman living on SSDI wrote it:

The Sleepy Girl Guide to Social Security Disability

A self-advocacy guide to Social Security Disability. This guide is designed for anyone who is homebound and for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Lyme Disease, POTS, EDS, MCAS, M…

howtogeton.wordpress.com

The last judge I went to see told me if I were lost in the woods that I'd find a way to survive so he denied me. Other reasons I have been denied....
* To young.
*To smart.
* Has good hygiene so can't possibly be depressed

 

[noaccount]

I am so sorry Looooser.

 

[Deformationalplagio]

I don't have the will to live, and yet I am required to fight for my disability income,so I don't end up homeless again or starving to death. Because EVERYTHING in this cesspool society revolves around and goes back to money. Life means nothing. It's all about the money. I honestly don't think I have the strength to fight this battle. Tomorrow I'm supposed to be searching for a doctor to represent me and provide evidence to the government that I'm disabled via mental illness. Last time I told them I was suicidal for years and had multiple attempts and they still rejected my application because money and policy's. Even If I win, I still won't be happy. I'll just barely be getting by. I will never have a day where I think wow I'm so happy I'm alive rather than dead. I have not thought that once in 10 years.

Man same same i exactly know how it feels. Even replying to you takes a lot of my energy how are we even suposed to fight for our disability income while being suicidal.

 

[Capsicum_Corral]

I'm in the same boat. I don't have the energy to fight for disability. I barely have the will to go grocery shopping and feed myself. My family expects me to just be happy in poverty. But I prefer to ctb.

I think the government is going to start monitoring paypal accounts.

Then they'll ask for all the money back for any months with over $2,000 in bank and other accounts.