If you worked in a pharmacy, what drugs would you use?

[eternalmelancholy]

I read a story about a pharmacist who ctb'ed by placing a bunch of fentanyl patches all over his body.

 

[Blue LIPS]

Did they just let you off with a warning or what?

pay back the price of each pill plus some fines

 

[Pookie]

pay back the price of each pill plus some fines

So luckily no criminal record I assume.

 

[LONE WOLF.]

I use to work at a vet and there most likely isn't much of anything you can use there. The only thing is maybe what they put down dogs with, but that is basically liquid salt.

Liquid Salt???

 

[Thatdude]

Liquid Salt???

I basically call it that because it does the same thing that high levels of salt would do. It actually gives a heart attack and cause stiffness in the body. Basically, it's no where near as peaceful as it looks if you look at the science behind it. The one and only advantage is it works quickly. But it could take a solid 5 min or more for some dogs to die.

I think if you block the pain receptors and knock out someone. It would be fine for assisted methods. But I wouldn't in any way want to use that on myself after doing research on the mess.
Like if it wasn't for me doing research on it or the fact that it does what it does in an obvious painful way. I wouldn't be here today because I had extremely easy access to the mess when I was younger.

At this time my method to go is a debreather or exit bag.

 

[Pookie]

At this time my method to go is a debreather or exit bag.

The newly released rebreather is absolutele shite. Don't waste your money. If you do a search on here you'll find some threads talking about it.

 

[Thatdude]

The newly released rebreather is absolutele shite. Don't waste your money. If you do a search on here you'll find some threads talking about it.

Thanks. I will take a look.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

Thanks. I will take a look.

It seems like the rebreather and all its revisions do not work or not well enough. Exit bag + inert gas is proven to work. Although I am not sure how to combat the panic of having a strange contraption over your face if you are claustrophobic.

 

[LONE WOLF.]

I basically call it that because it does the same thing that high levels of salt would do. It actually gives a heart attack and cause stiffness in the body. Basically, it's no where near as peaceful as it looks if you look at the science behind it. The one and only advantage is it works quickly. But it could take a solid 5 min or more for some dogs to die.

I think if you block the pain receptors and knock out someone. It would be fine for assisted methods. But I wouldn't in any way want to use that on myself after doing research on the mess.
Like if it wasn't for me doing research on it or the fact that it does what it does in an obvious painful way. I wouldn't be here today because I had extremely easy access to the mess when I was younger.

At this time my method to go is a debreather or exit bag.

No offense friend but having been present at my previous dog's putting down and seeing his reaction l have to Politely disagree, But either way l hope you have a lovely day in this glorious sunshine :-)

 

[Pookie]

No offense friend but having been present at my previous dog's putting down and seeing his reaction l have to Politely disagree, But either way l hope you have a lovely day in this glorious sunshine :-)

What do you mean? Did your dog die peacefully? I had my cat euthanised and it was very peaceful and quick. It didn't seem like she suffered at all.

 

[LONE WOLF.]

What do you mean? Did your dog die peacefully? I had my cat euthanised and it was very peaceful and quick. It didn't seem like she suffered at all.

My Dog died within 5 seconds and very Peacefully Thankfully, the Vet used something beginning with S-B? He just gave a sign and was gone then l went outside and Cried for half an hour!

 

[Thatdude]

having been present

What I said prior

> Basically, it's no where near as peaceful as it looks if you look at the science behind it.

Different vets use different things. Also something to note, a lot of time the heart will still do it's thing but extremely weak until it just gives out. Many times when the heart gets 40 BMP or less, the doc will just call it. There wasn't stuff at the time I was working at the vet, but there is stuff now where you can measure the heart rate by cameras. Basically, it shines a light on the skin next to the camera and it looks at color change. This is caused by blood flow. I tried it on one of my dogs that sadly passed away due to a vet screwing up (I'm in the process of reporting them and going after them for malpractice because and even other vets told me to do this). Anyways, long story short, we couldn't really hear it after it gotten below a given pulse but the stuff was showing she had a 30 bmp, a few minutes later, 25 bpm, and then it stopped after blood starting going out of her nose.


My point of this is what you see and what you get is 2 different things. Many doctors (even normal ones) flat out lie to their patents. It's actually encouraged if the lie doesn't fall under malpractice. Like if you need to put down a dog, then you having a fairy tale of everything being peaceful is good since the dog had to be put down anyways. Well when you go under the knife yourself, there is a lot of info they don't tell you. This could be due to a low % likely it will happen, or it won't change the end result.
The reality of things is, the first thing to go is normally eyesight and sound as the dog dies. Following this everything else. It is unknown at what point thought stops even if it's a human that is dying. But it could be seconds that thought stops or it could be all the way to the point of 5 min or whatever when brain activity stops when it stops. And that means for those moments they could be blind, deaf, and unable move or make a sound. Maybe feeling still, and freaking out. It's an unknown.
Again, I wouldn't desire it on anyone. With that being said, would I put down an animal? Yes because most of the time the result is far better than situations like what I dealt with. Situations where I seen while working at a vet where the owner waited too long and the dog/cat has a horrible, long, and painful death. Maybe one that lasted for days or weeks.

I like the exit bag method personally because there is studies on what happens. And basically when you lose 02 and start taking in other gasses that doesn't force your body to fight, you just go to sleep.

 

[whywere]

Well for me since I am old, 65, I take , it seems almost every drug out there so for me, nothing. It would just make me happy knowing that I am helping someone hopefully is all. Walter

 

[Blue LIPS]

So luckily no criminal record I assume.

Yeah civil lawsuit or whatever? Idk I just know when I told them I take them and have my MRI's their attitude changed toward me. So thank you Walgreens for not burying me :p

 

[suicidesheep31]

methadone and buprenorphine

 

[nihilism44]

What I said prior

> Basically, it's no where near as peaceful as it looks if you look at the science behind it.

Different vets use different things. Also something to note, a lot of time the heart will still do it's thing but extremely weak until it just gives out. Many times when the heart gets 40 BMP or less, the doc will just call it. There wasn't stuff at the time I was working at the vet, but there is stuff now where you can measure the heart rate by cameras. Basically, it shines a light on the skin next to the camera and it looks at color change. This is caused by blood flow. I tried it on one of my dogs that sadly passed away due to a vet screwing up (I'm in the process of reporting them and going after them for malpractice because and even other vets told me to do this). Anyways, long story short, we couldn't really hear it after it gotten below a given pulse but the stuff was showing she had a 30 bmp, a few minutes later, 25 bpm, and then it stopped after blood starting going out of her nose.


My point of this is what you see and what you get is 2 different things. Many doctors (even normal ones) flat out lie to their patents. It's actually encouraged if the lie doesn't fall under malpractice. Like if you need to put down a dog, then you having a fairy tale of everything being peaceful is good since the dog had to be put down anyways. Well when you go under the knife yourself, there is a lot of info they don't tell you. This could be due to a low % likely it will happen, or it won't change the end result.
The reality of things is, the first thing to go is normally eyesight and sound as the dog dies. Following this everything else. It is unknown at what point thought stops even if it's a human that is dying. But it could be seconds that thought stops or it could be all the way to the point of 5 min or whatever when brain activity stops when it stops. And that means for those moments they could be blind, deaf, and unable move or make a sound. Maybe feeling still, and freaking out. It's an unknown.
Again, I wouldn't desire it on anyone. With that being said, would I put down an animal? Yes because most of the time the result is far better than situations like what I dealt with. Situations where I seen while working at a vet where the owner waited too long and the dog/cat has a horrible, long, and painful death. Maybe one that lasted for days or weeks.

I like the exit bag method personally because there is studies on what happens. And basically when you lose 02 and start taking in other gasses that doesn't force your body to fight, you just go to sleep.

I'm not sure what kind of veterinary practice you were working at but it's pretty much standard to use Nembutal (N) for animal euthanasias in the US. It's extremely peaceful and any "discomfort" you are seeing in the animal while they are passing is after they are fully unconscious.
You may be talking about KcL? I've heard of potassium chloride being used but only after heavy sedation because a euthanasia using that method is not peaceful at all.

 

[Pookie]

methadone and buprenorphine

I've never tried methadone but have tried brupenorphine patches which didn't do much for me.

 

[suicidesheep31]

@Pookie Yes, patches deliver at low speed.

 

[LONE WOLF.]

Yeah civil lawsuit or whatever? Idk I just know when I told them I take them and have my MRI's their attitude changed toward me. So thank you Walgreens for not burying me :p

 

[ExRN]

I've never tried methadone but have tried brupenorphine patches which didn't do much for me.

Buprenorphine is a partial opioid agonist (has a ceiling effect and can't kill you).

You can OD and die with enough morphine (or F, carfentanil...) but not Bup. I've never heard of anyone dying from methadone either.

 

[Foresight]

Buprenorphine is a partial opioid agonist (has a ceiling effect and can't kill you).

You can OD and die with enough morphine (or F, carfentanil...) but not Bup. I've never heard of anyone dying from methadone either.

Yea, that one is not locked up in US pharmacy.

I did work in pharmacy for years. During a dark period I was tempted to steal amitriptyline. That wouldn't be hard to snatch nor is it a fast mover so it might go unnoticed for some time.

 

[thisplaceisaprison]

Can it be a pet pharmacy then? No, but really, I'd go for everything.

 

[lmon]

Oh my God. I actually thought about robbing a vet clinic for N

ME TOO.