If you had the ability to change some things in SaSu what would you change?

[Nights]

I think this forum is a property to it's owners so nobody can have the right to change things in this forum without the approval of it's owners, but if i could do changes to this site and i were an admin or something like that i'd change the 18+ rule and unban everyone that's banned cause they're under the age of 18 and remove the "crisis help" thing that i used to when i registered my account for the first time

 

[FuneralCry]

I agree with the age thing as I think that people should just be able to die if they want to and I know that many people get angry at this view but I don't care. None of us are obligated to continue existing and people suffer no matter the age. Wanting to gatekeep suicide and invalidating people's wish to die because of age is just so insensitive and anyway people should at least be able to vent and openly discuss the subject of suicide no matter the age, it's just so pro-life to want to censor that and I just don't agree with any censoring of suicide discussions.

And another thing is the fact that the other forum is titled "recovery", and this implies that wanting to die is an illness which is just so wrong. Wanting suicide is perfectly logical in this world and I think it's irrational to want to stay in this harmful world filled with endless suffering.

Calling a section on a pro-choice forum recovery just feeds into the pro-lifers delusions about suicidal people being irrational, but anyway I don't really read that section, I just ignore it as it doesn't interest me and of course the age thing doesn't apply to me now as I'm 22 but still I hate it when people on here often invalidate those in their 20's because of age.

And I wouldn't allow any pro- life comments in the suicide discussion, like try therapy, medication etc, any discussion like that should be reserved for the "recovery" section which I don't read, as if people wanted to hear those empty platitudes they would post in there instead. But overall I just generally try to ignore anything that bothers me as best I can, I don't care about other people's opinions and I just use this site for my own sake. But certainly any pro-life comments on here are so cringe, I don't know what the crisis help thing is you're referring to, but it just sounds pro-life and best avoided.

 

[Crono]

If SS didn't have an age restriction, it probably would have been shut down by now due to legal issues.

 

[Nights]

If SS didn't have an age restriction, it probably would have been shut down by now due to legal issues.

yea i hate that, but there's a onion domain for SaSu, there's no way to shut that down

 

[Ultracheese]

It's a silly thing but I have always liked the ranks on this site and thought it would be cool if you got something every time you achieved a new rank. I'm not sure what it would be, but that's the first idea to come to mind.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think this forum is a property to it's owners so nobody can have the right to change things in this forum without the approval of it's owners, but if i could do changes to this site and i were an admin or something like that i'd change the 18+ rule and unban everyone that's banned cause they're under the age of 18 and remove the "crisis help" thing that i used to when i registered my account for the first time

Hmmm- that's a tricky one... while I feel awful for minors who are suicidal- I was one. I've been suicidal since I was 10... I do happen to believe assisted suicide should be for 18+. Sorry- but I wouldn't feel comfortable discussing method information with an 11 year old- not necessarily knowing they were a minor.

In this respect- this site does assist in suicide. It provides detailed method information (which I know they can find elsewhere) but it does also provide the opportunity for us to advise one another. I likely wouldn't feel comfortable having the same conversations- specifically about methods with an adult as I would a child. It's not like you can ALWAYS tell. I tend to avoid method talk anyway to be honest- seeing as I'm not that knowledgable.

It's a really tricky subject- because I don't BLAME youngsters for killing themselves. I don't necessarily think they are too young and immature to make that decision. I'm just not entirely comfortable with the idea of handing them the knife to do it- as it were.

Also- can you imagine the backlash if there were more suicides in minors linked to this site?!! It's ALWAYS young suicides that people get the most upset about- and go looking for someone to blame. They won't necessarily just blame the site. They will blame individuals. I don't want to be persecuted because I believed I was talking to an adult and they were really a child.

The helpline addition sounds as if it may be a new thing. I don't recall seeing it when I joined. Still- again- this isn't purely a site for people who definitely want to die. It's not a death cult! It's a site that discusses suicide in an open way. I sort of doubt people come here actually looking to recover at the start but there is a recovery section. There are plenty of people here trying to 'recover'.

It also just helps the site I imagine to show that it HAS shown people that help is available- if a person wants it. Some of the pro-lifers looking to attack and take down the site WANT to view it as a death cult. They actually seem naive enough to think that people here have never come across a 'helpline'!! I think it just helps dispel the myth that this site is driving people towards suicide- if the 'recovery' options and resources are made available also. You can always just ignore them!

There is a 'Suggestions' section to the site by the way- in the drop down menu at the top...

 

[EmmaD]

I would change how blocking/ hiding people works. I feel like if I block someone on here I can still see their content if someone quotes what they've said. I'd only block someone if they seriously bothered/ triggered me, but it feels pointless if I can still see what they write.

 

[synthcadia]

i'd like some more off-topic categories tbh!

 

[ThatStateOfMind]

i'd like some more off-topic categories tbh!

I agree! More off topics would be great! Maybe a humor category, or something similar. Just to make this more of a community. i feel it'll be harder (though not much harder at all) for the media to label this site as awful, or anything else if it's more broad and has more sections disconnected from suicide.

 

[aGoodDayToDie]

I think it should be 21+ or 25+ to access suicide resources.

Also there should be less resistance to comments aimed at preserving life. Otherwise this place turns into a bit of a cult and criticism of the site becomes quite valid.

 

[faceplaant]

I think this forum is a property to it's owners so nobody can have the right to change things in this forum without the approval of it's owners, but if i could do changes to this site and i were an admin or something like that i'd change the 18+ rule and unban everyone that's banned cause they're under the age of 18 and remove the "crisis help" thing that i used to when i registered my account for the first time

i do agree that you should be allowed to join at any age but i don't think it really maters if there's no id or anything just a check box

 

[HighFlight]

When I initially joined, I wasn't sure what to expect. I hadn't reached the stage where I was ready to pull the trigger, but was definitely heading down that path. What I found was a group of people who were all struggling in one way or another, but seemed genuine in their support for others in the group. We may not agree on everything, but that love and support has been overwhelming for me. Ironically, each thread I've participated in has helped me grow and learn, and I would like to find a ways to keep it going and improve it for others.

With respect to members age, I find the goodbye threads the emotionally toughest to read, especially when the person is young - like a teenager. I don't see the encouragement as suggested by outsiders, but general statements wishing the person peace. However, in some threads, the poster is simply looking for a quick way out. And while I can support @FuneralCry (and others) views that people should be able to die if they want to, I find it sad if that decision is rashly made in a moment of anger or momentary pain.

So my question would be is how can we self-police this? To limit access to the detailed method information in circumstances where the decision has been hastily made, but allow access to it a user is planning their final days.

I would also think partnering with another group to help promote the positive discussions around suicide. Something to help counteract the negative press from those who have lost loved ones.

I have many different ideas in general, as that's how I look at the world. However, I would want to ensure that the existing community isn't negatively impacted by any changes.

Sorry for the long post, but I am impressed with both the site's members who have helped me and the staff keeping it operating in a hostile political and legal climate. If there is something I can do to help, please PM me.