If someone you really loved wanted to CTB, would you try to dissuade them?

[CTB Fella]

I'd be interested to know?

 

[ChildrensITV]

JFL is this a serious question?

 

[SilentSadness]

I would never try to dissuade someone from ctb, it is their choice and not mine to make. The only thing I could offer is guidance on poor methods. I wouldn't do what most people would do anyway, which is call the police to abuse the person in a psych ward.

 

[Fraggle77]

For whose sake are we dissuading them? Theirs or ours? Those that wish to ctb are often viewed as selfish but what about those that keep them on this earth and get them sectioned against their will? To prolong their agony just so they can have them live? Surely that too is selfish? I would like to know if they have explored every other possible Avenue before they decide to ctb. Saying that I wouldn't asssit with it

 

[ThisIsLife]

I would only listen to them and try my best to help and ease their pain but i would never try to interfere and i would keep it to myself no matter what, out of respect and by fear of making their life worse.

There is absolutely nothing noble preventing people CTB if it multiplies their pain and sadness and/or prolong it. I sincerely believe most people who do, do it because of nothing more than their ego and hard-try being seen as good persons.

The hero complex is unfortunately a very wide spread and common disease. I facepalmed repeatedly on comments under Fantacruel video, i've never seen so much egocentricity, and they truely believe they're good guys ! Mad world.

 

[Pidgeons_Sparrows]

God I wish I wouldnt because I see myself as someone who respects choice and when a person meets their suffering limit but theres this one person that I love dearly ill be devastated when they CTB ): and I feel guilty for trying to stop them

 

[BGooG]

Absolutely. And I recognize the rank hypocrisy in saying this. But I've been in the situation where someone I love (more than anything) was considering suicide, and I simply had to do what I could to help them overcome the difficulties they were facing. The world is a better place for them being in it.

 

[charlotte_]

I would try my best to ease their pain and help them with whatever difficulties they are going through. I would try to dedicate my time in helping them for as long as they need. But at the end, if it doesn't change, then I respect their decision. After all, we cannot change anyone. We can only influence them to change themselves.

 

[Rogue Proxy]

The hero complex is unfortunately a very wide spread and common disease. I facepalmed repeatedly on comments under Fantacruel video, i've never seen so much egocentricity, and they truely believe they're good guys ! Mad world.

Unfortunately, sparklepires aren't just a figment of Stephenie Meyer's (lack of) imagination.


But seriously, no, I would never interfere with anyone's suicide. I may ask if they need assistance with anything, and consider whether I can fulfill their request. Otherwise, I would leave them be.

 

[FuneralCry]

No, I could personally never understand what is supposedly so beneficial about something so futile as existing in order to justify discouraging someone from ceasing to exist. Suicide should always be a personal choice and any of the beliefs that suicide is "wrong" in this cruel world where we are only destined to decay from age and suffer in the process are just centred around delusions.

To me trying to stop someone from ctb when they want to die is insensitive as we cannot experience life in the same way as other people, what could give somebody else the right to try and interfere, prolonging that person's suffering, when it's not their existence. I just think that if someone wants to delay their inevitable fate and exist in this harmful world then that is fine for them but they shouldn't push these views onto other people, of course nobody is obligated to continuing existing just because some people were selfish enough to procreate.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I hope I'd try and help them face whatever problems they were facing but ultimately- no- if they were that unhappy and there was no feasible way of making things better- it would be unfair of me to try and stop them.

 

[cutejellybean]

My dad tried to CTB when he was a teenager. He slit his wrists, but he was taken to the hospital. He had abusive parents and never got help. If I knew him then, I wouldn't try to dissuade him, because he had an awful life and a lot of mental illnesses, and I know how he feels. I also had to inherit all of the mental illness..

 

[leanwimp67]

My best friend try to ctb last week, I was shocked, I always thought I was going to end my life first, and he was always the one that make me less miserable. I hurt a lot because he is the only reason I stay alive, and I always tell him. And I feel blame because I talked with him about suicide methods and how I was the one who was going to end his life. I love him, I don't want to lose him, but I'm conflicted, I don't want to lose him but I also want him to stop suffer.

 

[meowtistic]

of course?? most of the people I know have impulsive actions and intrusive thoughts, sometimes all it takes is a little bit of help and guidance to ease their reality, I'm all for people having the choice to live or die, but I am not selfish for at least making the effort for someone I love to stay a while longer. hell maybe the effort and care I put in is all they need to realize that there's still some things that aren't shit you know?

 

[leavingsoon99]

Personally, I would not try to dissuade my friend/loved one from self-termination. I love them, and ultimately want what's best for them. Life isn't always worth living. Sometimes, one really is better off leaving this world. The societal default is that life is worth living, no matter what. People are expected to just take life as is. I don't believe that. I'm out of place to sit there and tell someone to stay in life. I'm not in their shoes. I don't feel their pain. I don't see the world as they do. So, that would be quite ignorant of me to attempt to intervene with my friend's attempt. I would listen, support, and love them... no matter what they decide to do.

 

[Callie Arcale]

No, I would not dissuade them.

I'd hold their hand, listen to them and help them find a good method, if they needed help. Suicide is the only escape from this world of misery for some people. I know that.

Death does not scare me at all.

I've had people close to me die. I miss them beyond words, every day, but I am not sad, because I know their suffering is over and that's a good thing.

 

[Unending]

I'd want to talk to them about it because it's obviously the final decision of their life but it isn't my place to judge or impose.
Not like an interrogation but rather how you would talk to a loved one who is at any huge moment in their life.

 

[Meursault4]

yea maybe since if I loved them I'd want to try other options and I wouldn't really understand why they would want to kill themselve if the reason wasn't pure obvious.
But yeah it's their choice

 

[ILuVCkn]

Yes... it just seems the right thing to do.. and sometimes those that are suicidal just needed someone that think they matter.

 

[borderline-feline]

I've been in this situation before. A previous favorite person of mine was very suicidal, and I told him that I wouldn't try to stop him. I told him that it's not my place to try and control what he does with his life but that I would be there for him if he ever needed to talk. I told him that multiple times, but he was unfortunately taken out of my life by an abusive ex. I was terrified of losing him because I'd built my life around him, and it hit me extremely hard when he did end up leaving me (not ctb), but his happiness was more important than mine.

I managed to find a new favorite person, and I don't know what happened with that previous FP. I think I handled it the right way, at least the suicidal favorite person part.

 

[SanctionedSquad]

No, what is so bad about sleep?

 

[unnormal9]

I cannot answer this question because I do not know what that is.

 

[HerculePoirot]

Yes (without physical intervention, only words). Unless they are terminally ill (mentally or physically) with unbearable suffering.

 

[Das Nichts]

Tough one. I'd hear the story first, think about it, if possible offer solutions. But in the end, it's their decision.
I would intervene only if the person would use half-assed measures (cutting) or something that fucks up other
people (train).

I am certain I would have reacted *very* different in the case I was not suicidal myself.

 

[redbathingduck]

It depends. I'd try to talk them, not necessarily to stop them or to encourage them but just to listen. If I felt like the person was making an impulsive reckless decision I'd probably try to talk them out of it for that last moment and tell them to think about it more when they're in a less desperate and impulsive state, without condemning their suicidal thoughts or anything of course. If someone has been thinking about it and it's a decision they came to rationally I wouldn't try to stop them but still let them know I'm there for them and they can change their mind anytime I guess, while letting them know I'd respect whatever choice they make. If they plan on doing something reckless that obviously won't work or endanger others I'd also try and stop them.

Not everyone might agree on it with me but I think there's a big difference between an impulsive CTB attempt out of desperation and a conclusion someone has rationally come to after considering their options and what they think is best for them. I've done stupid impulsive CTB attempts in the past and though my suicidal thoughts were real I wish someone could've stopped me back then because I wasn't thinking clearly and my attempts were unlikely to work regardless. I feel a lot better about my choice to CTB now that I've given it a lot of thought and made an actual plan.

 

[SVEN]

I may ask them to delay for a short period, just to be sure they had thought this through and it was not an act of temporary desperation.
Otherwise I'd hug them and we could say au revoir for now.

 

[Ambivalent1]

No. I'm not a hypocrite

 

[Twiceler]

Only if they ask me for it.
But I wouldn't want to ctb if a one girl that I truly love loved me too. So in this case I can't believe SHE would do this knowing that I love her too. Only if we both want it.

 

[timetodie24]

Well I wouldn't do all the BS ' don't do it', ' think of me , think of your family' , ' it gets better' etc. But I'd help them to explore other options first. I've tried different services, therapies, meds etc. before being sure of my decision to ctb. Just because they didn't help me doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't help them. If they're willing and able, i'd help them access support first. I'd try to make sure that they've fully thought through their decision. Make sure it's not impulsive.

I wouldn't push them either way. But I couldn't step back and just go 'okay, it's your right, ctb' . Because sometimes when people tell someone they're suicidal , they're asking for help. I'd want to hear them out first, hear their reasons and if there's still some hope there then I'd help them explore that. Some suicidal people want help keeping safe, if they wanted that then I would. I'd keep them safe at home if that's what they wanted, would never force anyone into hospital/ask for them to be sectioned. But if they wanted to be admitted I'd support them ofc. I would do anything to help them live if they believe it's worth it.

However, i wouldn't force them to live a miserable life if they don't think it's worth it. If they're determined to die and no part of them wants help (or there's no help available) then I don't think there's anything i could do. I wouldn't want them sectioned and restrained just to physically stop them ctb without actually making their life worth living. That would be completely selfish. I would just make sure they don't feel alone and feel loved in the time they have left. And for them to know that i'm always there to help if they have a change of heart.

 

[tomene]

If there are good reasons no.