If rescued, does N have any permanent effects?

[idontgiveadvicehere]

If you take N and are found, will it have any permanent effects on your health?

 

[MikeDeross82]

I overdosed on 10ml of liquid vet N and survived (ofc) with no lasting damage. I think:)

Usually, Pentobarbital, when taken in a massive amount will cause slowing of some bodily functions: decreased consciousness (even coma), bradycardia, bradypnea, hypothermia, and hypotension. If left unattended the person will usually die within a matter of minutes to hours. If someone was found early or is in an extended coma the EEG of that person may
show a marked decrease in electrical activity to the point of mimicking brain death, This is due to profound depression of the central nervous system, and is usually reversible.[34]​
So, to my understanding if you've been found early (and survive), you probably won't have severe neurological sequelae, unless you've been found with no heartbeat (clinical death) and was brought back to life. Than there is a chance of varying degrees of brain damage.

Correct me if I'm wrong

Pardon my English, i usually speak Hebrew
Sources: Me, Myself, Wikipedia, other.

 

[RealLostSoul]

Yes it depends on when you are found. This goes for all OD's. If you are found at the beginning you probably won't have irreversible damage, or maybe only minor. I guess the moment shit hits the fan is once you're having a cardiac arrest. Then it's minutes. Maybe up to like 2 minutes only minor brain damage / reversible one. Up to like 4 minutes moderate brain damage up to 6 minutes severe brain damage. And after that it's pretty likely just death or dead shell. That's why CPR first aid from bystanders is so important. The blood needs to be pumped that's the number one priority.
I have been following an underground artist that has had a pretty bad accident and he was only 23. They had to perform CPR on him and he went from athletic normal guy to severe special needs cripple. It's horrible to see so my advice is to OD when you are sure no one will find you. OD is the best method to die but do it in the wilderness for example.
I repeat DO NOT !!!!!! Do it as a cry for help. ONLY proceed if certain you will and want to die.

 

[hankbank3928]

Bump

 

[Sunset Limited]

Depends on how many minutes they find you after respiratory arrest. After 5 minutes, your chances of becoming a vegetable and dying begin to increase. If they find you before 5 minutes, they just need to ventilate you until spontaneous breathing returns. You will be fine.

 

[OldDrummer]

Yes, coma and being in a negative state.

One needs to give one's self a good 48 hour window of non discovery.

 

[Hercules]

Yes. If you are found, there is a risk of brain damage depending on how soon you are found. The N suppresses your breathing. After you go into respiratory arrest, there is a window of time that you can get brain damage from lack of oxygen, if you are revived in that time frame. You can get brain damage if your brain doesn't get enough oxygen in 2 minutes

 

[Al_stargate]

Yes, coma and being in a negative state.

One needs to give one's self a good 48 hour window of non discovery.

48 hours? for N. Most people are dead within an hour. I'll have about 12 hours before found. Chances of surviving this (if one doesn't vomit when unconscious) are slim to none.

 

[befree]

"Seems like there is the least chance of brain damage with SN than from other methods imo."

Don´t agree. Isn't it true that even in SN the brain is not supplied with enough oxygen ? For this reason I think Oxycodon and Fentanyl are better, because as far as I know they do not cause brain demage.

 

[eguiö]

"Seems like there is the least chance of brain damage with SN than from other methods imo."

Don´t agree. Isn't it true that even in SN the brain is not supplied with enough oxygen ? For this reason I think Oxycodon and Fentanyl are better, because as far as I know they do not cause brain demage.

Sure they do. You die by respiratory failure which deprives your brain of oxygen and therefore its at best the same as N.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

"Seems like there is the least chance of brain damage with SN than from other methods imo."

Don´t agree. Isn't it true that even in SN the brain is not supplied with enough oxygen ? For this reason I think Oxycodon and Fentanyl are better, because as far as I know they do not cause brain demage.

i haven't seen anyone rescued with SN or anywhere remain alive with brain damage. i have seen that with china white i guess that had some Fentanyl? i PM with someone got slight brain damage after a ctb attemp with F. got found and rescued. but it was not not pure Fentanyl . i'm sure pure Fentanyl would result in instant death . but pure Fentanyl is extremely hard to find, much harder to find than N or SN is right now.

 

[Starchaser]

I overdosed on 10ml of liquid vet N and survived (ofc) with no lasting damage. I think:)

Usually, Pentobarbital, when taken in a massive amount will cause slowing of some bodily functions: decreased consciousness (even coma), bradycardia, bradypnea, hypothermia, and hypotension. If left unattended the person will usually die within a matter of minutes to hours. If someone was found early or is in an extended coma the EEG of that person may
show a marked decrease in electrical activity to the point of mimicking brain death, This is due to profound depression of the central nervous system, and is usually reversible.[34]​
So, to my understanding if you've been found early (and survive), you probably won't have severe neurological sequelae, unless you've been found with no heartbeat (clinical death) and was brought back to life. Than there is a chance of varying degrees of brain damage.

Correct me if I'm wrong

Pardon my English, i usually speak Hebrew
Sources: Me, Myself, Wikipedia, other.

Hello! Could you give us more details about the 10ml thing?
(If it's not inconvenient)
Did you do it on purpose? And what happened?

 

[Hercules]

"Seems like there is the least chance of brain damage with SN than from other methods imo."

Don´t agree. Isn't it true that even in SN the brain is not supplied with enough oxygen ? For this reason I think Oxycodon and Fentanyl are better, because as far as I know they do not cause brain demage.

You can get brain damage with SN. SN deprives your body of the oxygen it needs. You will get brain damage if your brain doesn't get enough of oxygen for 2 minutes.

I read that when they did autopsies on people who had ctb with SN, all of them had right sided heart failure and brain damage in the same area of the brain that people had when they died from carbon monoxide poisoning.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

You can get brain damage with SN. SN deprives your body of the oxygen it needs. You will get brain damage if your brain doesn't get enough of oxygen for 2 minutes.

I read that when they did autopsies on people who had ctb with SN, all of them had right sided heart failure and brain damage in the same area of the brain that people had when they died from carbon monoxide poisoning.

Link to the autopsies?. i'm assuming they were dead? That's what i need to do die soon. List the caseS of people rescued that remained alive with brain damage ? The only thing i want is to not remain alive and with brain damage.

 

[Starchaser]

I think any type of suicide method that includes oxygen deprivation (at some point) can cause permanent damages

 

[Hercules]

Link to the autopsies?. i'm assuming they were dead? That's what i need to do die soon. List the caseS of people rescued that remained alive with brain damage ? The only thing i want is to not remain alive and with brain damage.

I found a case study of this in a medical journal published online last year. I don't remember which one. I will look and see if I can find it and post a link.

 

[befree]

brain demage....

 

[again]

Sí, coma y estar en un estado negativo.

Uno necesita darse a sí mismo una buena ventana de 48 horas de no descubrimiento.

48 hours?????

 

[Ta555]

48 hours?????

Do not listen to this guy. He is full of shit. Before he was telling everyone it's 72 hours. His information is really suspect.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

i accidentally took about 550 or 600 mg n, far from a sufficient amount to ctb, but 5 or 6 times the amount used as a sleeping pill when it was used for that purpose years ago, tho I think some may have taken 200mg, but i also had zero habituation to it.. It resulted in mental confusion, slurring of speech, and then seizures. It totally cleared up in a couple of days, except the injuries sustained during the seizures took longer. I thought i read that there are no after effects if you are "rescued" from n. I had none from my overdose.

 

[Ta555]

i accidentally took about 550 or 600 mg n, far from a sufficient amount to ctb, but 5 or 6 times the amount used as a sleeping pill when it was used for that purpose years ago, tho I think some may have taken 200mg, but i also had zero habituation to it.. It resulted in mental confusion, slurring of speech, and then seizures. It totally cleared up in a couple of days, except the injuries sustained during the seizures took longer. I thought i read that there are no after effects if you are "rescued" from n. I had none from my overdose.

This is extremely weird because N is also used as a last resort anti-seizure med.

 

[Smart No More]

This is extremely weird because N is also used as a last resort anti-seizure med.

It may be that it has anti seizure benefits at lower doses. The therapeutic window with some drugs is like that.

i accidentally took about 550 or 600 mg n, far from a sufficient amount to ctb, but 5 or 6 times the amount used as a sleeping pill when it was used for that purpose years ago, tho I think some may have taken 200mg, but i also had zero habituation to it.. It resulted in mental confusion, slurring of speech, and then seizures. It totally cleared up in a couple of days, except the injuries sustained during the seizures took longer. I thought i read that there are no after effects if you are "rescued" from n. I had none from my overdose.

Not sure what to assume. I'm guessing it was powder/liquid N procured by yourself rather than prescribed. People with prescription stuff usually have Phenobarbital and I've seen it be confused for Pentobarbital (N) because the names are so similar.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

It may be that it has anti seizure benefits at lower doses. The therapeutic window with some drugs is like that.


Not sure what to assume. I'm guessing it was powder/liquid N procured by yourself rather than prescribed. People with prescription stuff usually have Phenobarbital and I've seen it be confused for Pentobarbital (N) because the names are so similar.

"powder N procured by yourself..."


Correct. From China when it was still available.

 

[Smart No More]

"powder N procured by yourself..."


Correct. From China when it was still available.

Quite jealous to say the least!

 

[WeepingWillow]

According to the PPeH there is no chance of resuscitation past the1 hour mark.