If killing yourself meant that everyone in the world would die painfully, would you still do it?

[Weebster]

It wouldn't change a thing for me. But there's a segment of people on here who care a lot about being virtuous, so I'm curious what they would do in this situation.

Would you sacrifice your desire for freedom from pain in order to spare the world from feeling pain?

 

[HappyForever?]

It depends on how painful. SN level painful? Yes. Being burned alive level painful? Probably not.

 

[Darkover]

hell i'd do it just for the fun of it said the psychopath

 

[Hirokami]

I don't like the idea of living for the sake of others as that's not really living; that's just existing as a husk. Though, I also don't think others deserve to die just because I want to.

Tell you what. I could just put myself in a situation where I'm completely dependent on life support. I don't have a rich family, so they'll inevitably pull the plug. I'll get to die and no one else has to. Ez.

 

[Superdeterminist]

Tough one that...Honestly not sure. Hilariously, knowing this would finally give people a reason to give a fuck about me, although not for any innocent reasons...they'd presumably just chain me up as a global threat.

 

[SpinsterHag]

It wouldn't change a thing for me. But there's a segment of people on here who care a lot about being virtuous, so I'm curious what they would do in this situation.

Would you sacrifice your desire for freedom from pain in order to spare the world from feeling pain?

I wouldn't careless if the rest of the world suffered in pain by my actions. Why? Because there's not one soul on earth that would give a crap about me being dead.
I'm alive and suffering in pain now and nobody cares, so I DON'T care how about their pain.

The old saying, "you find out who your friends are when you hit rock bottom," absolutely a true statement! I found out after YEARS of picking them up as a friend, I was in a one-way friendship with them.

 

[motel rooms]

OMG, everyone who says they would do this is so totally edgy.

 

[d33per]

Of course not.

What's this question? Some weird variation on the trolley-problem?

Would you commit suicide, if it meant, three innocent children would die?

Haha.

Autonomy is a very important virtue, but my autonomy is only completely granted, when I don't infringe on other people's autonomy.

If I kill myself, knowing, this is the end of everybody else on this planet, I will not do it, since I don't have a right to do it.

Pretty easy.

Now you may say, this is all made up and ethics (including consequentialism, and all of those moral theories...) are no objective truth, and I would agree.
But being objective in the ultimate sense or not, moral reflections are very relevant. We made all of these up, but that does not mean,they are meaningless. They are objective in the sense, that we are able to reflect on moral problems without being random and arbitrary, no matter if we made those moral systems up just to get along as long as we are alive.

Of course none of this matters, when we are dead. This would get into meta-ethics pretty quickly, if I were to continue here, haha, so let's just keep it the way it is now...

<3

 

[Releasefrompressure]

No. I am not a monster or a murderer. But of course hypothetical situation

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Yes only bc i still want to be gone.

Though, no one's life depends on me. I'm not that important in the least.

 

[FuneralCry]

Yes, as I do not want to exist. I do not want to suffer for decades until old age and I have the right to exit this world at a time of my own choosing as I did not ask to be alive. All humans will die eventually and even if people died a painful death, they would not suffer anymore after that. Life is completely meaningless after all and death prevents all unnecessary suffering. I believe that life should not have been a thing in the first place, it is horrifying that life even exists. Of course I would rather let people have the choice whether they lived or died.

 

[needforvoid_]

If they put me in coma, that's the least I can ask for

 

[AllMyDreams]

It's hard to know because there is a belief out there that says you are actually the only conscious mind in the world, and everyone else is a projection. There's no way to disprove it because you can't 'get inside someone's head' to verify that there are other minds like you. So if I believed in that, yes I would ctb. If I believed there were other minds out there, and that the world would continue on after my death, I wouldn't.

I'm still not sure which is true.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

No.

If I knew this would happen for a fact I wouldn't do it. I would stick it out until natural death, or maybe I would try to join some paramilitary with ideals I believed in and hope to die in the process

 

[CrossroadsCurious]

 

[Forever Sleep]

Only ever been suicidal- not homicidal or genocidal... so, no, don't think I could cope with somehow inflicting pain and death on everyone else... Not take personal responsibility for it anyhow.

See the same parallel as d33per said to the 'trolley problem.' Do sort of enjoy this kids answer to it (in a dark way...)

 

[Achlys]

Could the virtuous not just have someone else kill them instead?

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

1. UN-appointed looksmatch virginitymatch suicide prevention anime milf gf/secret-military-grade AGI-waifubot.
2. Becomes the CEO of gaming.
3. Name changed to Max Based.

No way I'm ctbing.

 

[NothingElseMatters]

That would be the best reason to suicide.

 

[LongtimeLoser]

That would be a hard NO.

Before my health went to shit my life was awesome. I built a great life for myself and my children. When I die I fully expect my kiddos and other loved ones to live wonderful and full lives. I'm also extremely wealthy. I want my kids to live it up!

I don't blame anyone for all the mistakes I've made in my life or my crappy health.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Maybe not but I'd first try to see if I can exploit this power for personal gain in some way. Like maybe by making everyone aware of it they'd start to bend over backwards just to appease me and prevent them from dying painfully.

Then again that amount of publicity would probably just make me want to kill myself more so I guess I'd just be stuck…

 

[braindead91]

Yes but only out of empathy. Some brief pain to spare them from the rest of suffering in life is a fair trade off to me and I don't perceive it as evil. I wish another person would do it for me as well.

 

[Weebster]

That would be a hard NO.

Before my health went to shit my life was awesome. I built a great life for myself and my children. When I die I fully expect my kiddos and other loved ones to live wonderful and full lives. I'm also extremely wealthy. I want my kids to live it up!

I don't blame anyone for all the mistakes I've made in my life or my crappy health.

See this is why people hate the rich. They tend to have no concept of humility and can't help but brag whenever an opportunity arises.

 

[Cryptonite]

So you're asking if I would help myself and help the planet at the same time?

 

[Sakura94]

I think mostly everyone dies in pain.

 

[lofticries]

Ugh, live begrudgingly but bitches better be paying for me to have a better life.

So milk my newfound importance for all its worth and then when I get to the elederly stage in my life have them put my ass into a coma until I die.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I wouldn't do it. Not if the entire world had to die with me, just so I could alleviate my misery. But, I'll tell you what I would do. I'd kill myself tomorrow, sacrifice myself, even before I am totally ready, since I haven't got all my affairs in order, but I would certainly do it tomorrow if there were a guarantee that Donald Trump would die in a painful manner at the same time. That would be my gift to the world.

 

[Weebster]

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I wouldn't do it. Not if the entire world had to die with me, just so I could alleviate my misery. But, I'll tell you what I would do. I'd kill myself tomorrow, sacrifice myself, even before I am totally ready, since I haven't got all my affairs in order, but I would certainly do it tomorrow if there were a guarantee that Donald Trump would die in a painful manner at the same time. That would be my gift to the world.

I hope you don't actually think you're a good person. Putin is the one threatening nuclear war. Liberals lol

 

[locked*n*loaded]

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I hope you don't actually think you're a good person. Putin is the one threatening nuclear war. Liberals lol

No. I don' think it. I know it. And yes I am a die-hard liberal. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Donald Trump called up his good-ole buddy Putin and asked him to start a war in Ukraine just to spite Biden. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[LongtimeLoser]

See this is why people hate the rich. They tend to have no concept of humility and can't help but brag whenever an opportunity arises.

My apologies… I thought you'd want an honest answer… with a little background.

At any rate, I hope you feel better after judging me and then putting me down.