If I don't get a gf soon I will CTB

[adachichichi]

Every girl I talk to ends up ghosting me, I'm convinced they all hate me
I really think I should ctb because it is just impossible for women to love me, they all just hate me and I don't have a reason to live without one
Please don't try to convince me otherwise unless you would be willing to give me a try, I'm tired of the gaslighting everyone does

 

[Sigh_Sigh_Sigh]

I know the feeling, I've talked to so many girls over the years that just end up fading away and never staying around long it breaks the heart.

When I did find the one she ended up pregnant and I never did see it as a problem but as soon as the baby was born she wanted nothing to do with me anymore and now I'm all alone again.

I'm done with women I don't get what they really want it still baffles my mind having given so much time and energy to them.

 

[Kanau_Nano]

Do you meet these people irl? Usually people don't ghost irl. That's terrible to do to someone, it's happened to me before

I know the feeling, I've talked to so many girls over the years that just end up fading away and never staying around long it breaks the heart.

When I did find the one she ended up pregnant and I never did see it as a problem but as soon as the baby was born she wanted nothing to do with me anymore and now I'm all alone again.

I'm done with women I don't get what they really want it still baffles my mind having given so much time and energy to them.

She got pregnant by you and didn't want to be around you anymore after the birth? I'm so sorry. Do you think postpartum maybe caused it it?

 

[ilovenewyork]

As an older and experienced man I'll say that relationships and sex are far more transactional than I expected as a young person. But, that's not to say that love isn't real. There's room for both.

Try reading this https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf

You might seriously consider hiring a professional. It's fun and there's no shame in it. Sex might not be what you expect it is.

 

[adachichichi]

As an older and experienced man I'll say that relationships and sex are far more transactional than I expected as a young person. But, that's not to say that love isn't real. There's room for both.

Try reading this https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf

You might seriously consider hiring a professional. It's fun and there's no shame in it. Sex might not be what you expect it is.

i will kms if this is what i have to resort to
i will not pay for some sham

 

[Sigh_Sigh_Sigh]

Do you meet these people irl? Usually people don't ghost irl. That's terrible to do to someone, it's happened to me before

She got pregnant by you and didn't want to be around you anymore after the birth? I'm so sorry. Do you think postpartum maybe caused it it?

That's possible, I just never got much of a answer and haven't a care in the world for her anymore after the sudden ending. She just broke down crying not long after the birth and it really confused me as everything seemed perfectly fine up until that point and now she won't let me go anywhere with the child so I can only see him on her terms at her home and that's that. I feel like a hopeless spare part all over again.

 

[adachichichi]

I know the feeling, I've talked to so many girls over the years that just end up fading away and never staying around long it breaks the heart.

When I did find the one she ended up pregnant and I never did see it as a problem but as soon as the baby was born she wanted nothing to do with me anymore and now I'm all alone again.

I'm done with women I don't get what they really want it still baffles my mind having given so much time and energy to them.

they just hate me
women in the big 26 just hate sensitive young men like me, i open up my feelings and struggles they act like they care and then not a month later they're gone
do i just have to act like a fucking asshole or something i dont understand

 

[Kanau_Nano]

That's possible, I just never got much of a answer and haven't a care in the world for her anymore after the sudden ending. She just broke down crying not long after the birth and it really confused me as everything seemed perfectly fine up until that point and now she won't let me go anywhere with the child so I can only see him on her terms at her home and that's that. I feel like a hopeless spare part all over again.

I know people that went through postpartum and they suddenly wanted a divorce and to ctb out of nowhere. It really messes you up. I don't blame you for feeling like you do. If someone treats you like that even with a reason it sucks and really hurts. You don't deserve to go through that. So stressful. I hope things work out better for you truly.

 

[ilovenewyork]

But you'd buy a prospective date a $200 dinner right? Lobster and all

It's not a sham! this is how the world truly works. Everyone uses everyone and that's Okay. What I didn't know when I was younger is how much having money counts in dating. Not spending it on my prospective date but just them knowing I brought it in. Which makes a lot of sense since women need someone with resources to start a successful family. So it may not be about you as a person at all really

 

[Kanau_Nano]

But you'd buy a prospective date a $200 dinner right? Lobster and all

It's not a sham! this is how the world truly works. Everyone uses everyone and that's Okay. What I didn't know when I was younger is how much having money counts in dating. Not spending it on my prospective date but just them knowing I brought it in. Which makes a lot of sense since women need someone with resources to start a successful family. So it may not be about you as a person at all really

I'm not trying to start a debate or something, but I don't have much money and I've never bought expensive things if anything for a date and I've had a relationship with men/women. I will say tho it does seem like everyone uses each other for something. That's true imo

 

[shaggy_dooo]

I have to say for what i seen im 26 and i havent had a gf in a while, that people are superficial and women tend to have interest in what u own, what u look like and stuff like that im sorry to tell u that i think human love is imperfect and if u looking for perfect love u will be disappointed your gf aint your mom that bih will walk out on u but one thing that ive noticed that got me attention from girls was when i was going to the gym and on semen retention i caught some girls eyeing me at places i would go u could try self improvement it will help you and no fap will give u God tier confidence u want a girl u gotta work on yourself

 

[BradGuy123]

I'm gay so I don't have any experience with women. But I can relate. I got rejected by and ghosted by so many guys. I felt so depressed and lonely and sad. Others had relationships. Why couldn't I? I am different and nerdy. I think that's why a lot of guys rejected me. The loneliness was so bad. I finally found someone who accepted me for who I was. When I was single what helped me was to have friends and activities I enjoyed. It wasn't the same as a boyfriend, and I was still sad. I'm sorry for what you're going through.

 

[Asya]

But you'd buy a prospective date a $200 dinner right? Lobster and all

It's not a sham! this is how the world truly works. Everyone uses everyone and that's Okay. What I didn't know when I was younger is how much having money counts in dating. Not spending it on my prospective date but just them knowing I brought it in. Which makes a lot of sense since women need someone with resources to start a successful family. So it may not be about you as a person at all really

This is an extremely toxic incel way of thinking that dehumanizes women. The last way you should be thinking about humans and human relationships is as a capitalistic marketplace. There are plenty of people that do not give a shit how much money you make and do not see sex as a "transaction". Do not push this kind of disgusting shit onto vulnerable people.

Try reading this https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf

From a basic internet search this seems to be reading primarily circulated in men's rights, redpill and incel circles which already says a lot about the veracity of it. Hell, here's a link to a Wikipedia page about this topic which lines out some of the ways it's totalbullshit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_economics#Sex_as_a_female_resource:_theory_and_critique

While writers like Donald Symons and David Buss have attempted to universalize their findings, and even purported to find cross-cultural support for theories such as "sex is something that women have and men want", their research suffers from a multitude of both philosophical and empirical weaknesses. For instance, their samples neglect to include matrilineal or matrilocal societies, where sex differences in behavior are typically either minimized or reversed.[50][51][52][53] Generally speaking, most samples which indicate the finding that men are more sexually motivated than women are from societies which are historically highly patriarchal, and hold (or held until recently) a highly negative attitude towards premarital sex, especially in women. Such societies tend to be large, populous states as opposed to smaller-scale foraging and horticultural societies, which are usually more liberal towards sexuality.[54][55] These studies almost always rely on quantitative self-report surveys, which are plagued with problems such as social desirability bias (maximized for women in cultures which have traditionally valued virginity), sampling issues and (in non-western cultures specifically) resistance or hostility to reveal personal information to outsiders. Cultural anthropologists working with Boasian methodology with an emphasis on participant observation and non-judgmental, emic evaluation of other societies have long warned of the dangers of reliance on quantitative methodology such as surveys (or any research method using a primarily etic perspective) for adequately capturing the internal beliefs and behaviors of other cultures.[56][57][58][59]

 

[ilovenewyork]

I disagree. This view of sexual dynamics has proven very true for me in my relationships over the years. It may not be flattering to women but these are the true mechanics of our behavior. The logic is sound imo and I would rather offer a controversial practical solution than let someone ctb.

 

[adachichichi]

I have to say for what i seen im 26 and i havent had a gf in a while, that people are superficial and women tend to have interest in what u own, what u look like and stuff like that im sorry to tell u that i think human love is imperfect and if u looking for perfect love u will be disappointed your gf aint your mom that bih will walk out on u but one thing that ive noticed that got me attention from girls was when i was going to the gym and on semen retention i caught some girls eyeing me at places i would go u could try self improvement it will help you and no fap will give u God tier confidence u want a girl u gotta work on yourself

this whole idea of self improvement is bullshit
people 40+ years ago didn't self improve, they just lived their lives and things happened
if you're in a situation where you need to self improve its already over for you
i have tried these things for the record and it doesn't do squat
besides, the fact that im talking here, ive already accepted the fact that its over for me, i just need a place to talk about ts
no advice can save me only a girl willing to give me a shot will

 

[shaggy_dooo]

this whole idea of self improvement is bullshit
people 40+ years ago didn't self improve, they just lived their lives and things happened

self improvement does work! u said 40+years ago man didnt change things just happened terrible reference i look at my dad i look at my uncle i look at my grandpas and fuck i dont wanna be like them degenerate women beaters working out putting them gains and nofap will change your confidence and appearance but u want everything instant nobody will give u magic wand to fix everything like that bro if u tried self improvement for a week and said its bs u just want instant gratification gotta get on it and keep it going for months and years ofc life aint always colorful and perfect some fall some make it thats why im here. Love isnt perfect either bc even if you improve your looks and self confidence women usually look for more than looks. If u want a woman rn the fastest way would be to have money

 

[certified_idiot]

Maybe women don't like you because you talk like an incel? Grouping the entirety of women into one category just to degrade them is very incel-y. Incels are a historically dangerous group of people, and most women I know would rather be alone than in an abusive relationship. You have to make yourself trustworthy before most women would touch you. You have to treat women as people before you could get a girlfriend.

There are definitely women who are shallow assholes who only care about looks and money, but I can guarantee that is not most people. I'd avoid dating apps if I were you; they're meant to sell you stuff, not actually make you happy. If you're not happy with yourself now, being in a relationship will not fix this.

This video explains this better than I ever could. It is a little long though, and you'll probably have to challenge some assumptions about yourself.

 

[adachichichi]

Maybe women don't like you because you talk like an incel? Grouping the entirety of women into one category just to degrade them is very incel-y. Incels are a historically dangerous group of people, and most women I know would rather be alone than in an abusive relationship. You have to make yourself trustworthy before most women would touch you. You have to treat women as people before you could get a girlfriend.

There are definitely women who are shallow assholes who only care about looks and money, but I can guarantee that is not most people. I'd avoid dating apps if I were you; they're meant to sell you stuff, not actually make you happy. If you're not happy with yourself now, being in a relationship will not fix this.

This video explains this better than I ever could. It is a little long though, and you'll probably have to challenge some assumptions about yourself.

you wouldnt get it

 

[Asya]

Semen retention and nofap does literally nothing. As a woman OP, I implore you to go literally anywhere else to talk about this to avoid the crap you're being fed in this thread. Even if your intent is just to vent and not get advice - hell, especially in that case. Join a Discord server that happens to have girls in it and try to be friends for no purpose except having friends. Check out some exiting the alt-right and misogynist pipeline resources. There are plenty of them because unfortunately this is a common issue. Women are individuals, not a monolith, and generally repulsed by manosphere garbage. "Women" cannot hate you because women as some consensus group does not exist. Pigeon holing them into such a group will show through and humans generally dislike being treated like that. Most of the women I've known would only bother with a "sensitive" man because they, as humans, prefer people with a semblance of emotional intelligence than hateful objectifying assholes. Do those kind of guys still get dates? Yeah, because there a women assholes and because they can sometimes be decent at manipulation. That doesn't mean there isn't a place in the world for you. I don't want to convince you that you shouldn't kill yourself if you don't get a girlfriend. Fuck I feel the same. But you are at risk or already extolling your pain in a harmful and toxic way to other people around you, and there are many people here who are happy to see that. That is not good for you, for anyone, for your mental state, the world. I think you can do better than letting yourself get sucked into this shit. Even if you'll still be miserable in the end, even if you'll still be sad because people abandon you because socialization at large in the world is fucked, it is nothing but an injustice to yourself and everyone to not try to wash out these ideas in your head. Please try. Good luck.

 

[medinjured521]

they just hate me
women in the big 26 just hate sensitive young men like me, i open up my feelings and struggles they act like they care and then not a month later they're gone
do i just have to act like a fucking asshole or something i dont understand

Focus on yourself and becoming a better person, you'll find someone in time. Being single isn't a death sentence. Be glad you're not disabled or damaged by medication. Hang in there and don't lose hope over the opposite sex.

 

[adachichichi]

Semen retention and nofap does literally nothing. As a woman OP, I implore you to go literally anywhere else to talk about this to avoid the crap you're being fed in this thread. Even if your intent is just to vent and not get advice - hell, especially in that case. Join a Discord server that happens to have girls in it and try to be friends for no purpose except having friends. Check out some exiting the alt-right and misogynist pipeline resources. There are plenty of them because unfortunately this is a common issue. Women are individuals, not a monolith, and generally repulsed by manosphere garbage. "Women" cannot hate you because women as some consensus group does not exist. Pigeon holing them into such a group will show through and humans generally dislike being treated like that. Most of the women I've known would only bother with a "sensitive" man because they, as humans, prefer people with a semblance of emotional intelligence than hateful objectifying assholes. Do those kind of guys still get dates? Yeah, because there a women assholes and because they can sometimes be decent at manipulation. That doesn't mean there isn't a place in the world for you. I don't want to convince you that you shouldn't kill yourself if you don't get a girlfriend. Fuck I feel the same. But you are at risk or already extolling your pain in a harmful and toxic way to other people around you, and there are many people here who are happy to see that. That is not good for you, for anyone, for your mental state, the world. I think you can do better than letting yourself get sucked into this shit. Even if you'll still be miserable in the end, even if you'll still be sad because people abandon you because socialization at large in the world is fucked, it is nothing but an injustice to yourself and everyone to not try to wash out these ideas in your head. Please try. Good luck.

i wouldnt say i subscribe to that manosphere shit, i just speak from experience, call it learned helplessness because everywhere i go i get treated like shit, and as far as when i say women hate me again its just my personal experience, not one has stuck around and they are fleeting, maybe my use of the word hate is a bit strong but i just feel like when i put my feelings on the table and they just eventually leave/ghost, i feel hated
im genuinely not an incel at heart ive just been beaten up for a long time and im just tired of being treated poorly
my life fucking sucks outside of this shit anyways so its really hard not to be generally melancholic, plus a woman who would hate me for venting about life to them, they can fuck off anyways
idk i just dont see a point in living without love, i value nothing else in life to that degree
i also do feel like if i had a gf that id be a lot more positive, and if i wasnt, well them maybe itd be time to ctb idk, its at least worth trying
i also just get this general feeling of being hated, couple posts above, "maybe because you speek like an incel", it just comes off as nasty
you cant go anywhere and talk about your struggles with women without being called either a loser, an incel, a misogynist etc
just adds more fuel to the fire for my inevitable CTB

 

[PainWorseThanDeath]

There's a whole lot of entitlement on this thread.

We women are not a single collective entity. We are not a hive mind.

Each one of us is different from the next.


If you want women to want to be around you.. try being someone that women want to be around, not one that sends up red flags that make us want to run from you.

This means being safe to be around. Women want to feel protected, not afraid. Frankly, many of you men on this thread are the kind that make me afraid of you. There is a reason why we choose the bear. Don't be that guy.


This is not meant to be offensive, it's meant to open your eyes...

Reflect on yourself and what it is you can do better, not what it is you think the world, or womankind owes you... which is nothing.

It's not a sham! this is how the world truly works. Everyone uses everyone and that's Okay.

No it's not, that's exactly what's wrong with the world, friend. This type of mentality is self perpetuating. It robs human interaction of any genuine meaning. If you go about life like this, you're going to get exactly what you're looking for, which is meaningless, shallow interaction. Use and be used. Prey and be preyed upon.

Sick.

Then again, water finds its own level, and likewise people find their own ilk...

Being surrounded by nothing but ones own company, and the company of others like them... one has no one to thank but themselves in the end.

People draw in what it is they put out.

BECOME (not merely ACT like) THE KIND OF PERSON YOU WANT TO ATTRACT... NOT THE KIND OF PERSON YOU WOULD, YOURSELF, AVOID!

 

[HollowSoul]

Maybe women don't like you because you talk like an incel? Grouping the entirety of women into one category just to degrade them is very incel-y. Incels are a historically dangerous group of people, and most women I know would rather be alone than in an abusive relationship. You have to make yourself trustworthy before most women would touch you. You have to treat women as people before you could get a girlfriend.

This. Also, lts pretty selfish to want a relationship when you are threating to kill yourself. Like, we're not mentally healthy here, I do too want a relationship but its really the right thing to do when Im 24/7 thinking in killing myself? What would the other person feel? Why would I want to put someone in that position? The moment the other person do something you dislike would you, again, threat to ctb? Idk that doesnt sound like a good deal at all

 

[pechaberry]

Ctb because of a lack of partner isn't a good reason. You can always work on yourself and try new ways to meet people. Relationships aren't the be all end all in life, and often times they can be a hell of their own. Try and like yourself before you worry about a partner. You're better off hiring escorts or seeking casual hookups if you feel you NEED sex right now or you can't go on. Get your physical needs met and work on being someone you like. Find things you enjoy. Life is more than dating. Don't waste your precious single chance on earth because of something as menial as dating. There will always be someone who comes along no matter how long it takes.

 

[StupidCat]

Why do you want a woman to be happy, be happy with yourself first

 

[adachichichi]

I feel the need to elaborate more on my life
I've been beaten down my entire life, I have autism, I have a hard time connecting with people, and the people I have connected with either go away or end up treating me like shit
I feel like I've become a victim of just generally mean people wherever I go and it gets to the point where I just don't wanna try anymore
And with women, I have been hyper fixated on finding love since pre-puberty, and every time I've tried finding it, it doesn't work out
I'm also unwilling/unable to work because of said autism, plus prior full time wagie work made me even more suicidal than I am now, and I refuse to try and climb the corporate ladder in this economy
I feel like people just shovel the same shit advice my way not understanding how truly doomed I am and how fucked my head is after all this trauma
As far as people throwing the word incel in my face, it's frankly very disrespectful and hurtful
I am sorry if I say things like "women hate me" but if you we're in my shoes, you would come to a similar conclusion I guarantee you
All of this to say that I am basically fucked and no one cares to help save me, and if that is how life is, then I will CTB at some point in time
I am a sensitive young man that has been treated horribly my entire life by people outside of my family and it has molded me into who I am now, and no amount of therapy will change how people treat me

 

[StupidCat]

I feel the need to elaborate more on my life
I've been beaten down my entire life, I have autism, I have a hard time connecting with people, and the people I have connected with either go away or end up treating me like shit
I feel like I've become a victim of just generally mean people wherever I go and it gets to the point where I just don't wanna try anymore
And with women, I have been hyper fixated on finding love since pre-puberty, and every time I've tried finding it, it doesn't work out
I'm also unwilling/unable to work because of said autism, plus prior full time wagie work made me even more suicidal than I am now, and I refuse to try and climb the corporate ladder in this economy
I feel like people just shovel the same shit advice my way not understanding how truly doomed I am and how fucked my head is after all this trauma
As far as people throwing the word incel in my face, it's frankly very disrespectful and hurtful
I am sorry if I say things like "women hate me" but if you we're in my shoes, you would come to a similar conclusion I guarantee you
All of this to say that I am basically fucked and no one cares to help save me, and if that is how life is, then I will CTB at some point in time
I am a sensitive young man that has been treated horribly my entire life by people outside of my family and it has molded me into who I am now, and no amount of therapy will change how people treat me

wrong time/era/society to hyperfixate on girls, hyperfixate on trains instead

 

[N-methylamphetamine]

Maybe women don't like you because you talk like an incel? Grouping the entirety of women into one category just to degrade them is very incel-y. Incels are a historically dangerous group of people, and most women I know would rather be alone than in an abusive relationship. You have to make yourself trustworthy before most women would touch you. You have to treat women as people before you could get a girlfriend.

There are definitely women who are shallow assholes who only care about looks and money, but I can guarantee that is not most people. I'd avoid dating apps if I were you; they're meant to sell you stuff, not actually make you happy. If you're not happy with yourself now, being in a relationship will not fix this.

This video explains this better than I ever could. It is a little long though, and you'll probably have to challenge some assumptions about yourself.

you do realize incel, the very definition of it, means involuntary celibiate. Meaning a man, or a women since a women coined the term ironically enough, does not have a romantic partner.

 

[adachichichi]

wrong time/era/society to hyperfixate on girls, hyperfixate on trains instead

you say that as if i have a choice in the matter

 

[N-methylamphetamine]

...

I have to say for what i seen im 26 and i havent had a gf in a while, that people are superficial and women tend to have interest in what u own, what u look like and stuff like that im sorry to tell u that i think human love is imperfect and if u looking for perfect love u will be disappointed your gf aint your mom that bih will walk out on u but one thing that ive noticed that got me attention from girls was when i was going to the gym and on semen retention i caught some girls eyeing me at places i would go u could try self improvement it will help you and no fap will give u God tier confidence u want a girl u gotta work on yourself

....semen retention???

you say that as if i have a choice in the matter

if it makes you feel any better. Dating in 2026 is cooked for a lot of people. This sounds corny but just focus on yourself at this point.

As far as people throwing the word incel in my face, it's frankly very disrespectful and hurtful

Man people say anything these days. I feel you.