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'Cause I'm something of an alcoholic, who does things like this. Also there's an even greater chance I'd want to drink beforehand anyway. Would wastefully throwing it up basically be guaranteed in both cases? Or can some people drink and successfully ctb?
 
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I can't imagine having alcohol in your belly would improve the nausea and vomiting situation. Hard to say if you would have nausea or vomiting either way, but I suspect alcohol would increase the odds
 
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mapletree

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I have no idea what that would do or if the alcohol would interfere with the absorption or metabolism of the SN somehow or if you would just take a ride on the vomitron
 
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Throwing it up doesn't guarantee it won't fuck you up or kill you.
 
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'Cause I'm something of an alcoholic, who does things like this. Also there's an even greater chance I'd want to drink beforehand anyway. Would wastefully throwing it up basically be guaranteed in both cases? Or can some people drink and successfully ctb?

Doen't it react bad with alcohol not just in a being sick way?? or have i been reading about something else?

have to go look now!!

so i found this,if its relevant


100ml alcohol changes everything
  • Stomach acidity, metabolism, and abosrption (even 3h after drink)
  • Vomit more and/or violently
  • Opposite effects -- increase anxiety/headache
Recommendation is to barely drink water for max SN absorption, additions are counter productive, don't mix poisons.
you can have alcohol with N, it increases its potency, i think i talked about it the otherday.
'Cause I'm something of an alcoholic, who does things like this. Also there's an even greater chance I'd want to drink beforehand anyway. Would wastefully throwing it up basically be guaranteed in both cases? Or can some people drink and successfully ctb?


With N, not SN you can have a drinkee poo

don't know if you can get shit faced though!!! i imagine not before(not sure), and well after it ,you aint gonna have the time to get wankered!!!
 
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If I remember correctly, either the PPeH or Stan's guide said to not drink alcohol as it increases chances of vomiting… but then as said, some people vomitted and still died, so…
 
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If I remember correctly, either the PPeH or Stan's guide said to not drink alcohol as it increases chances of vomiting… but then as said, some people vomitted and still died, so…

If all it did was make me be sick. i'd get shit faced, i can deal with being sick. even though i hate it!!! but i don't know how bad it effects in other ways and certainly don't want people to go off my fuked up ideas!!
 
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Anything in your stomach — food or beverage — will generate gastric juices aiming to break down the food. When SN meets these juices it converts to sodium NITRATE which doe not deoxygenate your blood the way sodium NITRITE does. This is why the protocols are firm about fasting and administration of antacids. (Alcohol could also bring on some distress or paranoia, depending on the person, and/or cause disorientation so the protocol is not followed correctly.)

It's a bummer. There is nothing I'd rather do before CTBing than drink one final bottle of my favorite champagne, Veuve Clicquot.
 
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Anything in your stomach — food or beverage — will generate gastric juices aiming to break down the food. When SN meets these juices it converts to sodium NITRATE which doe not deoxygenate your blood the way sodium NITRITE does. This is why the protocols are firm about fasting and administration of antacids. (Alcohol could also bring on some distress or paranoia, depending on the person, and/or cause disorientation so the protocol is not followed correctly.)

It's a bummer. There is nothing I'd rather do before CTBing than drink one final bottle of my favorite champagne, Veuve Clicquot.

I like the rose veuve! I'm a male aswell lol

God i used to drink allsorts of champagne, i love the stuff and cocktails:hihi: my favourite has to be ace of spades,but its expensive so it was a treat!

I'd love a nice glass of N and a few pornstar martini's.......I'd definately be able fit them in before i pass out!!
 
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SuicideBoys93

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I'd almost smoke a little weed before I'd drink alcohol with sn.
 
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I'd almost smoke a little weed before I'd drink alcohol with sn.

Don't quote me but i think the weeds an ok thing to do. it wouldn't be for me as i'd get paranoid ,anxious, the lot personally. its just alcohol that people are saying isn't good.
 
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Alcohol, fruit juices and even some types of water with added minerals can interfere with SN from what I've read.
 
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Don't quote me but i think the weeds an ok thing to do. it wouldn't be for me as i'd get paranoid ,anxious, the lot personally. its just alcohol that people are saying isn't good.

I think taking one edible ranging 2.5-5mg of thc would be the dose to take. I usually take 10-15mg to chill me out. My tolerance to thc is high because I'm a frequent user. I noticed my heart tends to race when I start getting up to about of +20mg.
 
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I think taking one edible ranging 2.5-5mg of thc would be the dose to take. I usually take 10-15mg to chill me out. My tolerance to thc is high because I'm a frequent user. I noticed my heart tends to race when I start getting up to about of +20mg.

I thought you meant smoke it! so in that case im not to sure on recommendations for it, as your meant to fast and have an empty stomach.

but it's your decision and whatever your comfortable doing is upto you! I would so love to get shit faced!!!
 
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I thought you meant smoke it! so in that case im not to sure on recommendations for it, as your meant to fast and have an empty stomach.

but it's your decision and whatever your comfortable doing is upto you! I would so love to get shit faced!!!

I still smoke but ever since I got my medical card I prefer edibles. You're in control of the dosing and once you realize how much you need to take you're golden. A lot of my anxiety is social anxiety. I've noticed 5mg tames most of my physical side effects. I'm in a speech class for college currently. I gave a speech recently without having a noticably shakey voice. No severe shakey hands. I didn't feel my face turn flush red. I was still nervous but felt like I was as nervous as the normal human going up in front of strangers and talking. At 5mg I'm fully functioning. I'm not high or anything. I'm in control.
 
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I still smoke but ever since I got my medical card I prefer edibles. You're in control of the dosing and once you realize how much you need to take you're golden. A lot of my anxiety is social anxiety. I've noticed 5mg tames most of my physical side effects. I'm in a speech class for college currently. I gave a speech recently without having a noticably shakey voice. No severe shakey hands. I didn't feel my face turn flush red. I was still nervous but felt like I was as nervous as the normal human going up in front of strangers and talking. At 5mg I'm fully functioning. I'm not high or anything. I'm in control.

see i can't smoke it at all, 1 drag of it and it makes me go fukin nutty!!! Which is weird as when i was younger we used to do it altime, although even then i was partial to a 'whitey'! we used to do a thing called a 'waterfall' when we were coming down off E. my god it used to rocket your head off, used to trip my tits off.some of the best times, ever. god i have some stories about them times lol

seems like its helping you alot, which is good. can't say i was a fan of standing up in front of a class when i was at school myself!!
 
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@SuicideBoys93 : I take a 5mg gummy each night an hour or so before bed to sleep. Works wonders for me. I used to be a restless sleeper with sheets and pillows all mixed up. Now when I wake up my bed looks like it hasn't been slept in! LOL But you mentioned some people get paranoid by using it, and it sometimes does that to me. Seems to me that THC magnifies what I'm feeling when I take it. Whether I'm happy, quiet, scared, etc., it's magnified.

@checkouttime : Happy to find another VC lover! Not a fan of rose, just give me Brut. And wow, I haven't had a Pornstar Cocktail in years and years. My days of partying in San Francisco's Castro District are long over. hahaha
 
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I can't imagine having alcohol in your belly would improve the nausea and vomiting situation. Hard to say if you would have nausea or vomiting either way, but I suspect alcohol would increase the odds
second this tbh, though I wouldn't know for certain what effect anything has on sn
 
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@SuicideBoys93 : I take a 5mg gummy each night an hour or so before bed to sleep. Works wonders for me. I used to be a restless sleeper with sheets and pillows all mixed up. Now when I wake up my bed looks like it hasn't been slept in! LOL But you mentioned some people get paranoid by using it, and it sometimes does that to me. Seems to me that THC magnifies what I'm feeling when I take it. Whether I'm happy, quiet, scared, etc., it's magnified.

@checkouttime : Happy to find another VC lover! Not a fan of rose, just give me Brut. And wow, I haven't had a Pornstar Cocktail in years and years. My days of partying in San Francisco's Castro District are long over. hahaha

veuve for the price is a top quality champagne, i have had some more expensive ones that weren't even near as nice! one of my favourites is laurant perrier rose. I also had a really nice one from selfridges, their own brand i think. I wanted the bottle that lit up!!!!!!

not too long ago, it used to be champagne and cocktails every weekend,without fail!!!! not any more!!!!!
 
Emily_Numb

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I love how everyone thinks they are an expert at this CTB business. People die by Suicide when absolutely inebriated with alcohol using pretty much any method. Most suicides the person will have alcohol in their system. If anyone really thinks having a gut full of booze is somehow going to magic away the effects of SN, you believe too much stuff you read on here by armchair experts. The only experts on CTB are the people who've succeeded. How can you possibly lecture a person on something you've never done? Poison is poison.

To OP, it really depends if you think you'll be able to hold down something that resembles a glass of seawater after a skinfull? Only you know the answer to that.
 
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GravityUtilizer

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Well I've ordered SN anyway. I doubt I'd take it drunk now 'cause I know it'd be unnecessarily risky/would almost cheapen the moment, whether or not I think I could hold it. I mean I had my head around a noose the other night but knew not to go through with partial. So anyway if it gets through customs I'll soon have three methods to choose from: SN, Beachy, hanging. Also recovery is still technically possible...
 
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This is why I've quit drinking (again) because quite honestly, it makes me way more suicidal. I also think if I'm not able to do it sober, then I don't really want to do it. If I don't have the bollocks or drive to do it with a clear mind then that's a big red flag.
 
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I love how everyone thinks they are an expert at this CTB business. People die by Suicide when absolutely inebriated with alcohol using pretty much any method. Most suicides the person will have alcohol in their system. If anyone really thinks having a gut full of booze is somehow going to magic away the effects of SN, you believe too much stuff you read on here by armchair experts. The only experts on CTB are the people who've succeeded. How can you possibly lecture a person on something you've never done? Poison is poison.

To OP, it really depends if you think you'll be able to hold down something that resembles a glass of seawater after a skinfull? Only you know the answer to that.

I dont think people are saying it wont work as such. more that if you do it you might not have as peaceful death.

What i have read it that something to do with acidity, causes SN to change into sodium nitrate.which is not what you want as it not useful to CTB.

I think thats correct but im not an expert and can only go off what i read, but some of it is stuff that people with knowledge of how different chemicals react.

at the end of the day though people can do whatever they want. as i said before...if it just going to make me sick i'd quite happily get shit faced!!!
 
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@Emily_Numb ... I'm no expert on SN, just what I've researched here and elsewhere. My goal is to successfully CTB. From what I've read, alcohol can — can, not 100% guarantee — contribute to a failure. That's a risk I'm not willing to take; others of course can make their own decisions. I should have clarified this opinion in my earlier post.
 
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Drinking a liquid like seawater is probably going to make you puke or heave anyway, with or without alcohol. I was a big drinker and not the sort who vomits. I guess if you are pretty good at hitting a few drinks and not blowing chunks, it's not really going to make much difference.

I can't imagine someone who drinks a few drinks and feels sick would want to go down this route anyway.
 
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@Emily_Numb ... I'm no expert on SN, just what I've researched here and elsewhere. My goal is to successfully CTB. From what I've read, alcohol can — can, not 100% guarantee — contribute to a failure. That's a risk I'm not willing to take; others of course can make their own decisions. I should have clarified this opinion in my earlier post.

ultimately we all make the decisions we want, we can read whatever we want ,whether we choose to follow/believe what we read is entirely upto the person themselves. No1 if forced to follow any specific way, do it however you want in my opinion,as long as your comfortable with it.nothing else matters.
 
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@Emily_Numb ... I'm no expert on SN, just what I've researched here and elsewhere. My goal is to successfully CTB. From what I've read, alcohol can — can, not 100% guarantee — contribute to a failure. That's a risk I'm not willing to take; others of course can make their own decisions. I should have clarified this opinion in my earlier post.
User error can contribute to failure too. SN works if you take enough and keep it down. It's a poison. Poison WILL kill you if you take enough of it and have no medical intervention.
 
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Drinking a liquid like seawater is probably going to make you puke or heave anyway

thats my theory. i actually think taking a mixture of pills on an empty stomach is going to increase the risk aswell. but thats just my theory. I'm not saying do it/or don't
 
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thats my theory. i actually think taking a mixture of pills on an empty stomach is going to increase the risk aswell. but thats just my theory. I'm not saying do it/or don't
I agree with you on that 100%. Empty stomach, pills AND seawater? No thanks. Makes me heave just thinking about it :pfff:
 
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I agree with you on that 100%. Empty stomach, pills AND seawater? No thanks. Makes me heave just thinking about it :pfff:

Im not planning on anti e. I may do paracetemol(only them, but not sure how much they will help with the possible headache), definately not ibuprofen. not getting found is the name of the game!!
 
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