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Afterman

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If God exists I hope he (or she, it) forgives us and understands. That being said the reasons to doubt God's existence are greater than those to believe--why would he let us get this bad in the first place? I apologize for implementing Pascal's Wager but I want to be believe that if God is real, we are embraced with open arms.
 
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MsM3talGamer

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What do we need to be forgiven for? We didn't choose this shit.
 
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Empty Smile

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If he does exist, I'm going to put my foot right up his ass and tell him to go fuck himself.
 
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gingerplum

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If God exists I hope he (or she, it) forgives us and understands. That being said the reasons to doubt God's existence are greater than those to believe--why would he let us get this bad in the first place? I apologize for implementing Pascal's Wager but I want to be believe that if God is real, we are embraced with open arms.
Pascal's wager never made sense to me... I can't just choose to believe in something if it doesn't make any sense to me at all in the first place. Or am I supposed to just pretend to believe? What kind of God would be ok with a false belief, anyway?
 
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Johnnythefox

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Crest33

Crest33

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I'm sure that the God that people in believe is forgiving in any way. The thought of God is in your head, so what you believe it is.

Spoiler:
God doesn't exist.
 
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Afterman

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Pascal's wager never made sense to me... I can't just choose to believe in something if it doesn't make any sense to me at all in the first place. Or am I supposed to just pretend to believe? What kind of God would be ok with a false belief, anyway?
It's usually brought about by fear of death. That's why there's many accounts of lifetime atheists claiming they were wrong or they're "sorry" on their deathbeds. Like you said, I'm sure God would recognize false beliefs. I'm agnostic but I believe God would understand why atheists disbelieve. Honestly, if God exists, he doesn't seem like the nicest of guys. He could easily reveal himself and stop a lot of conflict.
 
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It's usually brought about by fear of death. That's why there's many accounts of lifetime atheists claiming they were wrong or they're "sorry" on their deathbeds. Like you said, I'm sure God would recognize false beliefs. I'm agnostic but I believe God would understand why atheists disbelieve. Honestly, if God exists, he doesn't seem like the nicest of guys. He could easily reveal himself and stop a lot of conflict.
God is historically a man of hatred, in christianity and Judaism that is. If the bible Is the actual word of God being an unbeliever is worse than suicide.
 
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What's the worst he can do to me then? Send me to hell?
I'm just saying what you said was cringe. Its Facebook 15 year old atheist tier.
 
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Afterman

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I think atheists can be just as snobby as theists, if not more. They're usually more intelligent, or at least more critical, but that doesn't mean they're any less close-minded or arrogant.
 
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Johnnythefox

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I think when you reach a certain age you really really realise it's all just a pile of shit.
 
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LiveSlowDieFast

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Nov 14, 2018
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If it comforts you or others that's good, but personally I think it's all bs.

God is supposed to be omniscient and all-loving, but he can't understand why somebody might not have believed in them or decided to take their life? What's there to be forgiven? If he doesn't want people to suffer, take their own lives or not believe in him he should do something against that.

I honestly think all the theological/philosophical stuff that tries to explain these contradictions is built from the premise that god exists and that therefore there must be a way for it to all make sense.
 
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gingerplum

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I'm sure that the God that people in believe is forgiving in any way. The thought of God is in your head, so what you believe it is.

Spoiler:
God doesn't exist.
 

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Angst Filled Fuck Up

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God is a woman, according to Ariana Grande. Here's hoping I can schmooze my way out of trouble.
 
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I'm open to these discussion threads if everyone can do so without being disrespectful to others and causing flame wars with other users. This topic can get out of hand, please put some thought into what your posting and think twice before you post it. We don't need anyone attacking one another or being hateful.

Respectful discussion is fine.
 
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It's the oldest debate in history and one which is never going to be conclusively answered..
 
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We are sovereign, what happens with us depends with our connection to soul/spirit. The God you're talking about sounds like it has a human mind but God wouldn't be subject to that.
 
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I've recently been pondering whether the universe has self awareness! And all without the aid of hallucinogenics.
 
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