escape_from_hell

escape_from_hell

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Would you be happy if an ex you dislike CTB'd?
Would it make a good birthday gift? Like, you'd feel great joy and maybe think a bit better of them and have some forgiveness or love in your heart for the gift?
 
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Angst Filled Fuck Up

Angst Filled Fuck Up

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No, I wouldn't rejoice in the death of anyone outside of maybe seasoned criminals or otherwise objectively evil people.

I feel like using ctb in any type of guilt trip way is cowardly. I tend to think if someone's going to off themselves, it should ideally be done dispassionately, free of any interpersonal associations.
 
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whywere

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One aspect that I have learned in over 68 years through bumps, bruises and just being plain stupid, is the fact that carrying around ill feelings is just like rocks in a backpack that is on you. Weighs one down and makes life difficult but does no good at all.

With that said, my answer is a huge no. What is in the past is that I try and learn from it but carry hatred or ill feelings around is way too draining mentally and also physically.

I am 100% pro-choice what whatever the situation in life that someone has choose, I always feel a lost twinge in myself for that person, be it personal, business or whatever the situation entails.

We are ALL the same, and we should lookout for each other as, one leaves with what came with, nothing.

Walter
 
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Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
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I saw the title and thought it would be about a selfish ex, but nah, I'd never be able to celebrate that!! I don't really have any hated exes either.

The thought process outlined in OP honestly doesn't make any sense to me and is even a bit contrary to me. How can it be a gift? I'd never be able to see it that way, and why would I forgive or love them for this "gift"? I don't want them to kill themselves... if someone did something really terrible, death is a mercy from justice, anyway.

I'd feel awful if someone deliberately ctb'd on my birthday. Nobody will though. I found out my best friend died on my birthday, but he'd died earlier, I just found out at a not good time, since other things were happening too.
 
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escape_from_hell

escape_from_hell

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Feb 22, 2024
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No, I wouldn't rejoice in the death of anyone outside of maybe seasoned criminals or otherwise objectively evil people.

I feel like using ctb in any type of guilt trip way is cowardly. I tend to think if someone's going to off themselves, it should ideally be done dispassionately, free of any interpersonal associations.
If one is genuinely bad and people hate you, it seems like the genuinely right thing to do, not a 'guilt trip.'
 
Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
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I think dolan and I are thinking about something different. I guess you're thinking about an ex that did really, really, terrible things. I agree that nobody should ctb because of somebody else, and make someone feel that way.

I still couldn't see that as a "gift". I want my exes to be happy, not gone. Even if they were somehow worse than all my family put together, they wouldn't even register in my mind at that point, I would put as much distance between us as possible. I sincerely doubt I'd find out whether they died or not at that point.
 
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escape_from_hell

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There are wars raging around the world right this very second, and all throughout our history. Would these wars be raging if humans did not think there are other humans not worthy of life?
For those of us who know we are not good, dying voluntarily is the only moral thing to do, because it makes the world better. But even killing ourselves makes us cowards. There is no right to die or euthanasia. What should we do? Torture and pain won't make anyone think any better of us.
 
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Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
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Are you thinking about killing yourself on someone's birthday? In that case, I would spare them that pain, ctb on an unrelated day. I've spoken to people that have had someone ctb on them on special dates, it makes them feel suicidal too, it's difficult for them to get over.

I don't think ctb makes someone a coward. It's a personal choice.
 
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escape_from_hell

escape_from_hell

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Feb 22, 2024
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I think dolan and I are thinking about something different. I guess you're thinking about an ex that did really, really, terrible things. I agree that nobody should ctb because of somebody else, and make someone feel that way.

I still couldn't see that as a "gift". I want my exes to be happy, not gone. Even if they were somehow worse than all my family put together, they wouldn't even register in my mind at that point, I would put as much distance between us as possible. I sincerely doubt I'd find out whether they died or not at that point.
It is me that is bad and needs gone. I want them to be happy. I guess they don't really need to know if I die or exist at all. I doubt they would even know I died on their birthday. Maybe it could give them a good laugh if someone texted about them while they are taking a dump or something.
But I wish dying could at least be one truly unequivocally good thing, a universal good for all. Not just a selfish escape.
But part of being born as the negative being is that no action you take is possible to be moral or good I guess. It's just, you're evil and here to suffer I guess even if you don't know why.
 
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greyblue_bian

greyblue_bian

2x Failed CTB Member
Jun 10, 2022
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No; As much as I hate what they did to me, I can't seem to hate them. Not because what's happened to them or them being human excuses it or anything like that, but I really did love them as much as I said I did and if they died, I think I would feel at a loss regardless if I wanted them in my life or not after they purposefully hurt me. Genuinely loving someone or something can be confusing.
 
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Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
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It is me that is bad and needs gone. I want them to be happy. I guess they don't really need to know if I die or exist at all. I doubt they would even know I died on their birthday. Maybe it could give them a good laugh if someone texted about them while they are taking a dump or something.
But I wish dying could at least be one truly unequivocally good thing, a universal good for all. Not just a selfish escape.
But part of being born as the negative being is that no action you take is possible to be moral or good I guess. It's just, you're evil and here to suffer I guess even if you don't know why.
So my assumption was correct that you were thinking about ctb on someone's birthday. No, I don't think it would give them a laugh. Please don't ctb on their birthday. If you think you hurt them, just stay away from them in general. When you ctb, don't do it in a way that would make them think it's because of them, please. Read bian's post, they're likely to feel bad either way if they found out you ctb, it will be worse if you do it on their birthday. Please don't do that to them.

Ctb is a choice, it's not selfish.
 
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Lady Laudanum

Lady Laudanum

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May 9, 2024
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No. There are worse ways to live out a lifetime than CTB.
 
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moshimoshi

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No I think I would feel sick to my stomach even though I hate them. It would probably ruin my birthday if I found out about it on that day
 
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

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I don't even have an ex so I guess I win. The parks of being a loser I guess.
 
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escape_from_hell

escape_from_hell

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Feb 22, 2024
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I don't even have an ex so I guess I win. The parks of being a loser I guess.
Well as you can see life still sucks ass and I want to CTB.
For people with no empathy/bonding that go thru sex and relationships faster than toilet paper at a fast food restaurant, though, they may be immune from that black hole in the heart.
I acknowledge the unique pain of 'never' though. It is heinous that nature is so cruel and dealt you such a shit hand. Like all the joys of life, it's a fleeting and wicked taste, like teasing an animal with food. You climb a mountain, get a brief view, and then fall down the jagged cliff getting your ass beat by the outcrops on the ride back down to earth. The Devil's Laughter of Schopenhauer.
 
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sserafim

sserafim

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I don't have an ex. I've never been in a relationship, nor have I ever wanted to be in one. I think I'm probably aromantic. I'd rather the people I hate live out their natural lives, get old and die a painful death. Suicide would just allow them an escape from life and suffering. They need to stay alive as long as possible so they suffer as much as possible. They need to feel pain, sadness and misery. They need to get beaten down by life. Life needs to chew them up and spit them out. They need to go through old age, get old and wrinkly, and lose their mental capacities and cognitive capabilities. They need to become shells of their former selves. This is the ultimate revenge. Time and entropy will get them in the end. Everyone is powerless against time
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
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Well as you can see life still sucks ass and I want to CTB.
For people with no empathy/bonding that go thru sex and relationships faster than toilet paper at a fast food restaurant, though, they may be immune from that black hole in the heart.
I acknowledge the unique pain of 'never' though. It is heinous that nature is so cruel and dealt you such a shit hand. Like all the joys of life, it's a fleeting and wicked taste, like teasing an animal with food. You climb a mountain, get a brief view, and then fall down the jagged cliff getting your ass beat by the outcrops on the ride back down to earth. The Devil's Laughter of Schopenhauer.
Don't feel bad for me. I misspelled perks.
 
escape_from_hell

escape_from_hell

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Feb 22, 2024
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I don't have an ex. I've never been in a relationship, nor have I ever wanted to be in one. I think I'm probably aromantic. I'd rather the people I hate live out their natural lives, get old and die a painful death. Suicide would just allow them an escape from life and suffering. They need to stay alive as long as possible so they suffer as much as possible. They need to feel pain and misery. They need to get beaten down by life. Life needs to chew them up and spit them out. They need to go through old age, get old and wrinkly, and lose their mental capacities and cognitive capabilities. This is the ultimate revenge. Time and entropy will get them in the end. Everyone is powerless against time
Would videos of me getting tortured or some shit on birthdays be a better option?
Humans are definitely sadists for those outside their 'like' zone so I guess it makes sense. I'm not really a masochist but unfortunately do feel love and fucked up my life anyway. I guess I am the coward by just wanting to die then.
 
sserafim

sserafim

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Sep 13, 2023
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Would videos of me getting tortured or some shit on birthdays be a better option?
Humans are definitely sadists for those outside their 'like' zone so I guess it makes sense. I'm not really a masochist but unfortunately do feel love and fucked up my life anyway. I guess I am the coward by just wanting to die then.
I've never watched torture videos and I have no desire or reason to. I don't see anything appealing about watching people get tortured
 
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untothedepths

untothedepths

ego death, then death
Mar 20, 2023
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no. what would make me happy instead? them becoming a better person. kinder. caring. but i also wont disrespect them CTB, because it was their choice and probably feel bad anyone has to feel that way because i understand it. im on sasu so i dont see how i can have room to even talk
 
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