Discussion If a friend was to attempt cbt what would u do?

[Jake.123]

Although i think everyone should have the right to ctb. Idk what i would do if it came to one of my friends attempting to ctb cuz i would see it from both sides. I care for them but know how selfish they think i am if i tried to stop them. Id probably just end up freezing but i like to think id let them go. Anyone relate?

 

[Quinlor]

Depends, do you know why he want to ctb. You have any guilty level on these wishes. If not I think you don't have any right to intervene. Unless only you can give your is opinion like: if was you I not do that, etc.

 

[Escaper Boy]

"I don't know what to say" would be the first phrase I say.

I wouldn't assume I knew everything about their circumstances. I wouldn't assume I understood their feeling just because I was suicidal too. I would proceed the conversation from perspective of non judgment. I would only give my own personal opinion/agenda to them if they asked for it, otherwise I would only listen.

 

[Koal]

The thought of a friend wanting to ctb tears me up inside, I'd talk to them and let them know I care. If they want to then I won't stop them, but a selfish part of me really wouldn't want them to.

 

[WaterUnder]

Like Quinlor said, it really depends on the person and the circumstances, especially with respect to the possibility of healing.

If someone is upset by a relationship ending, while I can understand the pain, I also understand that their perspective is skewed by the present pain which could very well be a passing one. I'd intervene because I'd believe it is something their future self would want.

Also, if someone told me they are about to pull the trigger, jump, just swallowed a bunch of pills, I would interpret that as a cry for help and would (and have) intervened. If someone really wants to kill themselves, they're not going to communicate that to me at the last moment and expect me to just let it go at that.

However, if someone has a debilitating and chronic or terminal illness which made living burdensome with no realistic possibility of improvement (intense pain, ALS, e.g.), I would support their decision, celebrate their life. If they wanted to go to Dignitas, I'd go with them if I could afford to do it.

I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for this, but I am being honest.

 

[Jessica-]

If it's someone I know who I think there is a chance of recovery or if I know their method is bound to fail and cause more pain, I would definitely stop them.

If it's a complete stranger , I would most probably not do anything except if it is a young kid( I guess I am a hypocrite )

 

[deflagrat]

Like Quinlor said, it really depends on the person and the circumstances, especially with respect to the possibility of healing.

If someone is upset by a relationship ending, while I can understand the pain, I also understand that their perspective is skewed by the present pain which could very well be a passing one. I'd intervene because I'd believe it is something their future self would want.

Also, if someone told me they are about to pull the trigger, jump, just swallowed a bunch of pills, I would interpret that as a cry for help and would (and have) intervened. If someone really wants to kill themselves, they're not going to communicate that to me at the last moment and expect me to just let it go at that.

However, if someone has a debilitating and chronic or terminal illness which made living burdensome with no realistic possibility of improvement (intense pain, ALS, e.g.), I would support their decision, celebrate their life. If they wanted to go to Dignitas, I'd go with them if I could afford to do it.

I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for this, but I am being honest.

I agree with you, but I would add more possibilities instead of just the typical (intense pain, ALS, e.g.). I don't think you should kill yourself for any reason, only if it's really justified, but only that person can judge what's justified or not. It's like, you are supposed to open their eyes, but if they are aware of what you have to say, why would you stop them?

 

[WaterUnder]

I agree with you, but I would add more possibilities instead of just the typical (intense pain, ALS, e.g.). I don't think you should kill yourself for any reason, only if it's really justified, but only that person can judge what's justified or not. It's like, you are supposed to open their eyes, but if they are aware of what you have to say, why would you stop them?

You don't think anyone should kill themselves but think I shouldn't try to stop them if they reach out? I don't get it.
If someone is reaching out because they are in pain, I want to help them.
If someone is reaching out to tell me they are feeling suicidal I feel obligated to help them determine if they feel lost or hopeless or if they really want to die.
There's a difference.
If they are involving me, they know I will give them my full attention. If they know me, they know I won't just say, "Sure. Okay. See ya on the other side, Mate!"
What I won't do is reject them.

 

[deflagrat]

You don't think anyone should kill themselves but think I shouldn't try to stop them if they reach out? I don't get it.
If someone is reaching out because they are in pain, I want to help them.
If someone is reaching out to tell me they are feeling suicidal I feel obligated to help them determine if they feel lost or hopeless or if they really want to die.
There's a difference.
If they are involving me, they know I will give them my full attention. If they know me, they know I won't just say, "Sure. Okay. See ya on the other side, Mate!"
What I won't do is reject them.

Ops. My English sucks. I agree with you, I just wanted to say i would add more cases to your list.

 

[Divine Trinity]

Couldn't care less tbh, doubt I'd attend the funeral unless the family REALLY wanted me to. My reaction would be along the lines of "oh", "what?", or "really?". The feelings mutual, though I doubt others would be as honest about it.

I did tell them back in HS I'm the last person they should go to for comforting.

 

[k3v3r]

I would talk to them, and tell them that i won't stop them if this really is what they want

 

[betterdayz]

well I dont have any sooooo..But if I did have friends I would let them do it for the simple fact i imagine they would be in a lot of pain like me and want peace so that's my reason.

 

[Worndown]

I would need to contemplate with my value system. Rather than judge, I would hope to comfort and help them determine if this was the right path for them. If it was, do what I could for them.

 

[headinghome]

I asked a friend of mine to help me get pills but they wouldn't… If I thought someone was really suffering and they felt that this was their only way out I guess I would do what I could

 

[Worndown]

Help needs to be limited to things that will not get you charged. Getting pills will...

 

[headinghome]

Help needs to be limited to things that will not get you charged. Getting pills will...

Every action that you take would have the same consequences.....But I'm sure there's some creative ways

 

[WaterUnder]

Ops. My English sucks. I agree with you, I just wanted to say i would add more cases to your list.

Sorry I misunderstood you.

 

[Broken]

Before I was suicidal myself I had a different perception and would have probably said I'd want to help and save them. Now I know how it feels to be helpless and suicidal. I think I'd check with them if it was like 'a cry for help' but if it wernt I wouldn't stop them

 

[Jake.123]

I asked a friend of mine to help me get pills but they wouldn't… If I thought someone was really suffering and they felt that this was their only way out I guess I would do what I could

Damn. If u dont mind me asking what was their reason for declining? Or didnt they give one?

 

[Vegrau]

Well I might ask that friend if he want to die with me.

 

[uiop]

I do think it's selfish. Humans are selfish by nature after all (That's why capitalism works). You want your friend to live - we all want those we care of to live - but your friend wishes to die. The best option in my opinion is to respect his/her decision, no matter how much it hurts you.

I've cried over the thought of one of my friends wanting to CTB too. She keeps mentioning about it and, eventually, it becomes more real. That is, I started from counting the months until CTB, to the weeks, to the days, and now to the hour. It makes make me go into panic mode every time she mentions it. I'll go through much anguish if/when it happens, but I'll be forced to accept the fact my friend has make his/her decision and is no longer an active part of my life; as heartbroken as it may be for me, I'll have to move forward because that's what the world does.

 

[JadedGray]

Hypothetically, I would probably want to join them in a suicide pact. Not having any friends means this will never be a problem for me.

 

[Pupuce]

I would make sure it wouldn't just be a random decision, and that he knows how to do it properly as to not fuck his life even worse. But I wouldn't do a pact of some sort because i'd rather die alone.

 

[been_there]

You'd try to help, because that's all you can ever do. And if you can't, you live with the pain. And if you can't you ctb. Ain't giving a shit great!

 

[Mljonzy]

Honestly i would take it well knowing that they are free from life and i don't think i would be upset at all because i don't get emotional about anything i'm dead inside.

 

[not_a_robot]

same as I do here for my imaginary friends.
Try to encourage them to explore helpful options they may not have considered, then let them do whatever they like, and wish them well.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Depends, first of all I would make sure it wasn't a rash decision, then I would make sure this is really what they want. I would offer to help them with different resources. But ultimately if they want to go and they have given it enough time I would let them.

 

[Camille Lejeune]

Potential suicide partner ?