Discussion I think people really need to start putting a sheet over themselves when cbting

[pumpkinboy]

I've volunteered for firefighting and I've asked around alot and like seeing dead bodies is traumatic you don't need to be giving an emergency service worker a bad day it's not fair for them to have to see it just cover yourself up they'll know there's a body but it's really not a nice sight I don't like seeing dead bodies and i just think covering yourself up would be a nice thing to do

 

[ScaredCutter]

how would u do it if ur hanging urself or jumping off from a high place? or a much more gruesome way, like shooting the head, train and such.

i get what u mean though.

 

[pumpkinboy]

how would u do it if ur hanging urself or jumping off from a high place?

By covering yourself with a sheet? Also like don't both options kinda suck like alot?

 

[ScaredCutter]

By covering yourself with a sheet? Also like don't both options kinda suck like alot?

ueah, covering with a sheet. ik both of those methods arent great. just curious on what ud say

 

[pumpkinboy]

ueah, covering with a sheet. ik both of those methods arent great. just curious on what ud say

It's why the ghosts be wearing sheets and idk bout you but being a ghost does seem pretty cool

 

[lawlietsph]

I understand where you are coming from, but I think it's just not possible. Everyone with these kind of jobs should be aware that they might see dead bodies, not only because of suicide, but because of natural causes and accidents too. Those aren't pretty either, death is almost always ugly.
I understand that it is traumatic af, but someone has to remove the sheet sooner or later to identify the body, etc.. and how are you going to know if there is a chance to save the person if you can't feel their pulse because they are covered? how can you know for sure if they are dead or not? so i don't know, but yeah i get why you are saying this i just don't find too much logic in it

 

[clawsprit]

this isnt even possible for a lot of methods

 

[Fadenself00]

I've volunteered for firefighting and I've asked around alot and like seeing dead bodies is traumatic you don't need to be giving an emergency service worker a bad day it's not fair for them to have to see it just cover yourself up they'll know there's a body but it's really not a nice sight I don't like seeing dead bodies and i just think covering yourself up would be a nice thing to do

if youre severely neurologically disabled and even basic tasks are mentally too complicated in most cases, then your focus isn't on making yourself presentable.

 

[pumpkinboy]

I understand where you are coming from, but I think it's just not possible. Everyone with these kind of jobs should be aware that they might see dead bodies, not only because of suicide, but because of natural causes and accidents too. Those aren't pretty either, death is almost always ugly.
I understand that it is traumatic af, but someone has to remove the sheet sooner or later to identify the body, etc.. and how are you going to know if there is a chance to save the person if you can't feel their pulse because they are covered? how can you know for sure if they are dead or not? so i don't know, but yeah i get why you are saying this i just don't find too much logic in it

Look I'm just saying i don't like seeing dead bodies and I've seen dead bodies i didn't have to and you can let the people trained for identifying that see that I'm just sweeping shit and helping carry things I don't like dead bodies

this isnt even possible for a lot of methods

Than those methods suck it's unfair to put anyone in the position to be around that

if youre severely neurologically disabled and even basic tasks are mentally too complicated in most cases, then your focus isn't on making yourself presentable.

I genuinely do not understand what you mean

 

[clawsprit]

Look I'm just saying i don't like seeing dead bodies and I've seen dead bodies i didn't have to and you can let the people trained for identifying that see that I'm just sweeping shit and helping carry things I don't like dead bodies

Than those methods suck it's unfair to put anyone in the position to be around that

I genuinely do not understand what you mean

do you even want to CTB?

 

[pumpkinboy]

do you even want to CTB?

Sometimes i do I've attempted before

 

[lawlietsph]

Look I'm just saying i don't like seeing dead bodies and I've seen dead bodies i didn't have to and you can let the people trained for identifying that see that I'm just sweeping shit and helping carry things I don't like dead bodies

Than those methods suck it's unfair to put anyone in the position to be around that

are you considered a first responder? isn't it your job to check if the people can be saved or not? i mean whoever gets there first, i assume they should be checking the state of the person. you can't just say "okay i will wait for the paramedics so they can take off the sheets to check if this person is alive or not"
that would be kinda weird.
look, i understand where you are coming from, but it's just not possible. if you absolutely can't process seeing dead bodies, then maybe you should consider not volunteering anymore? how are you going to tell a person who's been in a car accident to please cover yourself up before you die?

 

[Fadenself00]

I genuinely do not understand what you mean

If you have severe neurological issues and can barely get your method to work (thinking, planning, motor and mental control required, etc.), then there's literally no focus/resources left for thinking about presentability of your deceased body. (which would need to be looked at by first responders no matter what)

 

[pumpkinboy]

are you considered a first responder? isn't it your job to check if the people can be saved or not? i mean whoever gets there first, i assume they should be checking the state of the person. you can't just say "okay i will wait for the paramedics so they can take off the sheets to check if this person is alive or not"
that would be kinda weird.
look, i understand where you are coming from, but it's just not possible. if you absolutely can't process seeing dead bodies, then maybe you should consider not volunteering anymore? how are you going to tell a person who's been in a car accident to please cover yourself up before you die?

I can process dead bodies i can get over it but i really really don't like it, I'm not the person who's checking if people are alive I don't know how to do that I'm too young to be an actual firefighter i rarely go on calls and when i do it's in teams and I'm mostly sweeping or helping carry tools not everyone has to or wants to see a corpse it's really sad

 

[Fadenself00]

Than those methods suck it's unfair to put anyone in the position to be around that

no, what is unfair is that people like us even need to go through finding their own 'methods' in the first place. Life is fucking brutal and with pretty much zero limit to how brutal it can get.
That society still hasn't figured out such a fundamental human rights issue, is what 'sucks' here.

 

[pumpkinboy]

no, what is unfair is that people like us even need to go through finding their own 'methods' in the first place. Life is fucking brutal and with pretty much zero limit to how brutal it can get.
That society still hasn't figured out such a fundamental human rights issue, is what 'sucks' here.

Not everyone wants to see a dead body

 

[Fadenself00]

Not everyone wants to see a dead body

oookay..?

Then I could just re-iterate what i wrote.
Trust me, most people who ctb would also like to have a planned, humane and painless way to go.. Unfortunately many countries make this nearly - or at least practically - impossible. Also we were just talking about first responders here, no? They would need to take a look anyway

 

[pumpkinboy]

oookay..?

Then I could just re-iterate what i wrote.
Trust me, most people who ctb would also like to have a planned, humane and painless way to go.. Unfortunately many countries make this nearly - or at least practically - impossible. Also we were just talking about first responders here, no? They would need to take a look anyway

Not every first responder on the scene has to though usually that's like the paramedics jobs it's heartbreaking seeing a dead body and it fucks with people it's such a simple thing you could do and it's nice

 

[Fadenself00]

Not every first responder on the scene has to though usually that's like the paramedics jobs it's heartbreaking seeing a dead body and it fucks with people it's such a simple thing you could do and it's nice

even if you're not severely neurologically disabled, this might still not be possible with many methods, many of which are the only practical and widely accessible methods in many situations. (which you then collectively deemed as they "suck").

 

[pumpkinboy]

even if you're not severely neurologically disabled, this might still not be possible with many methods, many of which are the only practical and widely accessible methods in many situations. (which you then collectively deemed as they "suck").

Yeah they'd suck wouldn't be fun experiences at all anyways I'ma sleep i got stuff to do tomorrow

 

[Fadenself00]

The unfortunate thing is that people this low, will not be able to care for things like this anymore, in many situations. It's just the gruesome nature of hell that life can become for people.
It can also be a side effect of the process needed for overcoming survival instinct. (where you cannot really shift your focus to anything else except for going through with your method)

Yeah they'd suck wouldn't be fun experiences at all anyways I'ma sleep i got stuff to do tomorrow

???

 

[ScaredCutter]

it sucks and hurts to see dead bodies, of course itll change ur brain and ull likely get PTSD but, some people can have a method where they just CANT cover themselves, not all dead bodies are covered either. remember, some peoples SI kicks in and it can knock it off and they can die with it off.

my first message, i was talking about methods where its harder to just do that. thw methods arent the best but, how can they just "cover" themselves? what about people who just want to gey it over with and not worry about anything else and just push with their plan? what about those whose deaths were from an accident?

only such specific methods can have cover urself easily but, who knows how the body reacts? u must prepare urself for these things, its fine to not handle it and it feels like too much. look ay bodycams and reports, ppl puke, cry, switch places because its hard to handle but, its just smth they can counter with their job, u cant say ull NEVER see a dead body in a position of a firefighter, paramedic, police officer and many other jobs that invovles people.

 

[Forveleth]

Oooo! I am going to hang so I could totally look like a ghost! Good idea.

 

[SASU-KE]

Oooo! I am going to hang so I could totally look like a ghost! Good idea.

Or a Klan member,neither is good.

 

[Forever Sleep]

A lot of methods cause respiratory distress. I imagine having a sheet over your head would only intensify that. I'm not sure what methods you are considering where it would be all that easy to cover yourself in a sheet.

I do agree that- where we can- we ought to put up signs to warn people there is a dead body in close proximity. Preferably the method we used, what to expect to see and what safety precausions they need to use to protect themselves.

We can also lay down plastic sheeting to hopefully catch some of the mess. I've bought a slide sheet- with handles on- like they use in hospitals to move people- in the hopes it will make it easier for them.

I'm not too sure whether- even in assisting first responders- you can really avoid possibly coming across dead people though. I imagine it must be awful to experience but, I imagine it goes hand in hand with the job- unfortunately. If it impacts you more than others though- perhaps you could request a supervisor does a sweep of the area before you go in.

 

[RosebyAnyName]

My method is sn but I plan on putting a warning sign on the door to call 911 and don't enter due to suicide, at least then anyone who needs to enter (paramedics) can know what to expect. I agree that when possible suicides should be concealed so random people don't find it. I don't think people realize how traumatizing finding a body can be with no warning.

 

[Hollowman]

Look I'm just saying i don't like seeing dead bodies and I've seen dead bodies i didn't have to and you can let the people trained for identifying that see that I'm just sweeping shit and helping carry things I don't like dead bodies

Than those methods suck it's unfair to put anyone in the position to be around that

I genuinely do not understand what you mean

A good reason to legalize euthanasia or you can volunteer somewhere else.

 

[interna]

it really sounds like you're not mentally equipped to volunteer in a job like this. if you're cleaning a scene where you know there's most likely to be dead people then you have to make peace with that.

if you're saying "please cover yourself up when dying, it's the nice thing to do, if you can't cover yourself up then either don't die or find a way to do it so you're not exposed" then im sorry to say you absolutely cannot process dead bodies and this is your brain's way of trying to avoid it. which no judgement of course, just... obvious coping mechanism disguised as a strange take. you should examine whether you can take this or not

 

[Tesha]

I have purchased a body bag that I will use, but then again I have a method that will allow me use that. I do think taking your life should never be an impulsive action, but instead carefully thought out and planned. To me, this includes considering the impact of being found after and how you can minimise any potential trauma to others.

Choice of location, putting up warning signs, body / face coverings, even setting up delayed emails to emergency responders are all things that could be considered (although this one is a risk of being found too early).

I believe my death shouldn't traumatise others.

However, if you work as an emergency responder and don't have the ability to manage seeing dead bodies, then you do really need to consider if it is the right job for you. There's no point traumatising yourself more than you already have been.

 

[aufrechtm7]

Or a Klan member,neither is good.

That's how all Klan members should cosplay