i really hate people

[emma99]

the last time i was in a psyc ward i was assaulted by a doctor in front of nursing staff.

My complaint reached a conclusion which states
"that no such incident could of occurred."

What a shit world we live in when corruption and cover ups trump truth and justice.

I'm so sick of the Hippocrates of the west.
always criticising How Putin and China
treat their populations.

"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering is great or little. Therefore the 'size' of human suffering is absolutely relative." Viktor Frankl,

I'm fathomed as to why the nurses were either not questioned as part of my complaint or why they kept their mouths shut.

If it was it because their job and career was at risk then i dont blame them.
but if this was the case, then their Job and career should not of been put at risk.

But what adds to the darkness of corruption, is when public bodies and private company's operate in a mentality of "speak out and your gone" and the sad thing is that you actually see alot of this in the west.

Humanity really is a load of bollox

 

[No More Tears]

The world is a cruel place, and I'd like to get off at the next stop.

 

[Arahant]

You know what the difference between a psychiatrist and God is?

God doesn't think he is a psychiatrist.

 

[whywere]

You know what the difference between a psychiatrist and God is?

God doesn't think he is a psychiatrist.

TOTALLY agree with you. I have been to so many medical and dental places and have been told to permanently leave. Why? Because I would question something, and all hell would break loose.

I just got kicked out of a dental place, as I complained about one of the personal and 1 minute later, I was told that I was "disrespectful" and that I was "dismissed" for good. When I asked why they could treat me that way and when I handed it right back it was "disrespectful", but it was not to me?

That is when they told me that everything was one sided and the owners 100% of the time sided with the personal and NOT ever the patient.

BOY am I glad to be done with those egotistical idiots.

Walter

 

[Arahant]

@whywere
Those are not just pricks you ran into, that is downright criminal of them to do.
"So because you question how we intend to help you, we wont help you."
Unbelievable!
Sorry you had to deal with those scumbags.

 

[emma99]

one of the most offensive things is when people discredit and label your pain as subjective. Pain is not Subjective.

Viktor Frankl was a Jewish doctor who had been in Nazi concentration camp and he summed it up perfectly when he noted that the human soul and conscious is a chamber. and that pain is pain.

Therefor the only logical way of explaining what Gaslighting is, is when someone tries to tell you that your pain chamber isnt full.

 

[GuessWhosBack]

one of the most offensive things is when people discredit and label your pain as subjective. Pain is not Subjective.

Viktor Frankl was a Jewish doctor who had been in Nazi concentration camp and he summed it up perfectly when he noted that the human soul and conscious is a chamber. and that pain is pain.

Therefor the only logical way of explaining what Gaslighting is, is when someone tries to tell you that your pain chamber isnt full.

I know where you're coming from and I empathise with your feelings. I think what people actually mean when they say that pain or trauma is subjective is that no two people will experience the same environmental stressors and react the same way. In this sense, the severity of pain is dependent on the individual. A lot of people use the word subjective incorrectly, it's actually an epidemic.

But they shouldn't ever use that reasoning to invalidate or diminish YOUR lived experience. Unfortunately a lot of people just don't get this concept at all.

Especially the "I endured more than X so X has no claim to complain more than me" type of people. Such a stupid way of thinking about human beings. Sorry for the rant.

 

[Jeav]

psychiatrists have mental illnesses themselves, they chose this field either for the money or to understand their nature

 

[emma99]

I know where you're coming from and I empathise with your feelings. I think what people actually mean when they say that pain or trauma is subjective is that no two people will experience the same environmental stressors and react the same way. In this sense, the severity of pain is dependent on the individual. A lot of people use the word subjective incorrectly, it's actually an epidemic.

But they shouldn't ever use that reasoning to invalidate or diminish YOUR lived experience. Unfortunately a lot of people just don't get this concept at all.

Especially the "I endured more than X so X has no claim to complain more than me" type of people. Such a stupid way of thinking about human beings. Sorry for the rant.

i should of referred to the damage caused by the overuse / misuse of the term

Subjective is one of the worst words ever invented.
their trauma it causes wont be noticed for some time.
its often used to gaslight people.
"I believe / you believe". fuck off.

here's an example of what i meant when i said that one of the most offensive things is when people discredit and label your pain as subjective. Pain is not Subjective.

eg: if the belief that COVID vaccines caused injuries was subjective and could not be measured. I had a neighbour who had a college who wasn't able to walk after the vaccine and had to under go physical therapy. And thats not an opinion or a subjective view. Its a fact.

 

[GuessWhosBack]

i should of referred to the damage caused by the overuse / misuse of the term

Subjective is one of the worst words ever invented.
their trauma it causes wont be noticed for some time.
its often used to gaslight people.
"I believe / you believe". fuck off.

here's an example of what i meant when i said that one of the most offensive things is when people discredit and label your pain as subjective. Pain is not Subjective.

eg: if the belief that COVID vaccines caused injuries was subjective and could not be measured. I had a neighbour who had a college who wasn't able to walk after the vaccine and had to under go physical therapy. And thats not an opinion or a subjective view. Its a fact.

I actually 100% agree with you, don't worry. I don't think pain is subjective. It's not an art piece to opinionate upon.

I was trying to say that when people say pain is subjective, they're actually making a literal mistake. I wish pain was subjective.

 

[emma99]

I actually 100% agree with you, don't worry. I don't think pain is subjective. It's not an art piece to opinionate upon.

I was trying to say that when people say pain is subjective, they're actually making a literal mistake. I wish pain was subjective.

oh right, and no, don't worry I didn't think you were saying pain is subjective.
Glad we cleared it up the misunderstanding. :)

psychiatrists have mental illnesses themselves, they chose this field either for the money or to understand their nature

Money or understanding or just pure narcissism. A lot of them (not all) are control freaks

Missinformation is another modern term which can be very damaging when misused.
If your going to label someones beliefs as misinformation.
then you should be willing to engage with them in a formal debate.

Simply saying "no sorry misinformation next" is the height of ignorance
and incidentally enough, not sure about others,
but sopmething i noticed is that the rise in the use of the term subjective and misinformation
has only really happened in the last number of years.
I could be wrong. again and if i am wrong. then my opinion is not subjective.

if someone can provide me with factual evidence and i still refuse to accept that i may of been wrong. then the word to describe me is ignorant.

 

[Lost Magic]

Agreed. People by and large, suck! The human race is a failed species overall.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

one of the most offensive things is when people discredit and label your pain as subjective. Pain is not Subjective.

Viktor Frankl was a Jewish doctor who had been in Nazi concentration camp and he summed it up perfectly when he noted that the human soul and conscious is a chamber. and that pain is pain.

Therefor the only logical way of explaining what Gaslighting is, is when someone tries to tell you that your pain chamber isnt full.

Pain especially extreme unbearable pain is not subjective . It's objectively bad. that's why that's the only thing that matters is avoiding extrme pain , extreme torture and extreme suffering and extreme problems . That's why my only rational goal is to avoid extreme pain. suicide is my only rational goal. non-existence forever is the ultimate bliss the best gift to any human

What's subjective is all the garbage they tell you is so important youtube videos, movies, news , sports, social media, relationships, romantic relationships , having children , life, consciousness, the human body . i hate all the garbage addictions i just listed and will never think they are good important valuable pleasurable just horrible addictions .

 

[PixelPlant]

If I had one wish, it would be to wipe out all of humanity. People are the worst beings on this planet.

 

[emma99]

Pain especially extreme unbearable pain is not subjective . It's objectively bad. that's why that's the only thing that matters is avoiding extrme pain , extreme torture and extreme suffering and extreme problems . That's why my only rational goal is to avoid extreme pain. suicide is my only rational goal. non-existence forever is the ultimate bliss the best gift to any human

What's subjective is all the garbage they tell you is so important youtube videos, movies, news , sports, social media, relationships, romantic relationships , having children , life, consciousness, the human body . i hate all the garbage addictions i just listed and will never think they are good important valuable pleasurable just horrible addictions .

You actually just hit the nail on the head.

imagine the next time someone tells you that you would be happy if you had a relationship, and just turn around and tell them to stop being subjective.

I'm quite sure they would have a dazed look on their face.

Or imagine telling a politician they are being subjective
they next time they tell you that Putin is wrong for invading Ukraine
Or that China is bad for staking a claim to Taiwan

lol.

 

[Morte]

I know where you're coming from and I empathise with your feelings. I think what people actually mean when they say that pain or trauma is subjective is that no two people will experience the same environmental stressors and react the same way. In this sense, the severity of pain is dependent on the individual. A lot of people use the word subjective incorrectly, it's actually an epidemic.

But they shouldn't ever use that reasoning to invalidate or diminish YOUR lived experience. Unfortunately a lot of people just don't get this concept at all.

Especially the "I endured more than X so X has no claim to complain more than me" type of people. Such a stupid way of thinking about human beings. Sorry for the rant.

some pains are universally perceived at the same intensity however. For example, I'm sure 90% of people would react the same way if I set them on fire.

 

[GuessWhosBack]

some pains are universally perceived at the same intensity however. For example, I'm sure 90% of people would react the same way if I set them on fire.

The maximum pain a specific person can endure is objective and probably measurable. However I think there's different modalities to pain worth considering. Physical pain is one of them, and most would agree that burning alive is as close to maximum physical pain one can endure.

Most of us are not in constant physical extreme pain. However I would assume most of us here are in constant emotional pain, at least enough to dilute life significantly to the point of no longer wishing to live. For whatever reason this pain comes about from, is going to be specific to the individual. Not everyone reacts the same way after traumatic events. Some people go through objective hell and are still happy and functional. Some people are just one catastrophy away from their life going to shit.

To be fair we who plan and commit suicide form probably <1% of the population.

 

[emma99]

The maximum pain a specific person can endure is objective and probably measurable. However I think there's different modalities to pain worth considering. Physical pain is one of them, and most would agree that burning alive is as close to maximum physical pain one can endure.

Most of us are not in constant physical extreme pain. However I would assume most of us here are in constant emotional pain, at least enough to dilute life significantly to the point of no longer wishing to live. For whatever reason this pain comes about from, is going to be specific to the individual. Not everyone reacts the same way after traumatic events. Some people go through objective hell and are still happy and functional. Some people are just one catastrophy away from their life going to shit.

To be fair we who plan and commit suicide form probably <1% of the population.

I heard somewhere before that
our brains interpret physical pain and emotional pain the same way.
meaning that pain is pain.

 

[Minsu]

I heard somewhere before that
our brains interpret physical pain and emotional pain the same way.
meaning that pain is pain.

I agree. Sometimes emotional pain/debilitating anxiety/crippling depression is much worse than physical pain

 

[GuessWhosBack]

I heard somewhere before that
our brains interpret physical pain and emotional pain the same way.
meaning that pain is pain.

That's interesting, I didn't know that. I never really thought to compare the two.