I need to get it off my chest: the moderna vaccine flared up chronic health stuff and I can't deal with it

[tiredplant777]

This is not an anti vax post. PLEASE if you are super against these vaccines I get it but unless you have a solution for me your input here won't be helpful and will just make me feel worse and more stupid. Anti vax stuff has done nothing for me but make me feel worse, and I'm barely hanging in there. I got the vaccine because I know people who were very healthy and were young and became incredibly ill with covid and are still recovering a year later. I never felt outside pressure, I just felt horrified by what happened to these people I care about. One of these people lives in Texas and knows 13 people who died of covid, which also influenced my choice. Also like everyone I know who got the vaccine was fine, so yeah, that informed my choice also.
I have PCOS and it's been manageable. Being abused by a serial killer made it worse and for the past three years I've learned how to manage it and it was finally getting a lot better with diet and supplements. My first vaccine flared it up and in the end I didn't know what to do but take medication. The medication is helping but I still feel like my body is out of whack. I feel like an idiot for getting the vaccine now and not taking my own concerns about it seriously. I also feel like this is the last fucking straw on my end. Like I literally cannot cope with this and it's exhausting. I feel so out of control of my body. I feel like I am being assaulted all over again. I now have to deal with two camps of people - the people who don't think adverse effects can happen with these vaccines - and also the people who are anti vaxxers, and the ones I personally know in real life are so fucking judgmental and it's all they talk about now.
I'm just tired. People keep telling me this is temporary but I don't know how temporary it is, if this lasted a month ok, but it had been an issue now since July. The medication I take helps a lot but I am so so freaked out. Feeling out of control of my body is just the one thing I cannot cope with, and PCOS is a disorder that effects the reproductive system, and I guess having sexual abuse history makes all of this worse mentally.

Again if you want to reply I am begging ya'll to just be kind and to offer support. Scary information isn't going to be helpful. Thank you for understanding <3
Also I am super aware that this health stuff is not as bad as having a bad case of covid like the people I know did. I can still breath well. It's just on my end this is not something my mental health can handle after everything else I have been through.

I live in Canada. Today I may talk to my therapist about applying for assisted suicide for when it's available for mental health reasons in 2023. Since I survived my abuser life has still been kicking my ass over and over again, so I'm just done at this point.

 

[8evergo]

ich werd mich nicht impfen lassen sorry

 

[tiredplant777]

ich werd mich nicht impfen lassen sorry

Cool, I'm definitely not asking you or anyone else to. Good luck <3

 

[Dot]

This is not an anti vax post. PLEASE if you are super against these vaccines I get it but unless you have a solution for me your input here won't be helpful and will just make me feel worse and more stupid. Anti vax stuff has done nothing for me but make me feel worse, and I'm barely hanging in there. I got the vaccine because I know people who were very healthy and were young and became incredibly ill with covid and are still recovering a year later. I never felt outside pressure, I just felt horrified by what happened to these people I care about. One of these people lives in Texas and knows 13 people who died of covid, which also influenced my choice. Also like everyone I know who got the vaccine was fine, so yeah, that informed my choice also.
I have PCOS and it's been manageable. Being abused by a serial killer made it worse and for the past three years I've learned how to manage it and it was finally getting a lot better with diet and supplements. My first vaccine flared it up and in the end I didn't know what to do but take medication. The medication is helping but I still feel like my body is out of whack. I feel like an idiot for getting the vaccine now and not taking my own concerns about it seriously. I also feel like this is the last fucking straw on my end. Like I literally cannot cope with this and it's exhausting. I feel so out of control of my body. I feel like I am being assaulted all over again. I now have to deal with two camps of people - the people who don't think adverse effects can happen with these vaccines - and also the people who are anti vaxxers, and the ones I personally know in real life are so fucking judgmental and it's all they talk about now.
I'm just tired. People keep telling me this is temporary but I don't know how temporary it is, if this lasted a month ok, but it had been an issue now since July. The medication I take helps a lot but I am so so freaked out. Feeling out of control of my body is just the one thing I cannot cope with, and PCOS is a disorder that effects the reproductive system, and I guess having sexual abuse history makes all of this worse mentally.

Again if you want to reply I am begging ya'll to just be kind and to offer support. Scary information isn't going to be helpful. Thank you for understanding <3
Also I am super aware that this health stuff is not as bad as having a bad case of covid like the people I know did. I can still breath well. It's just on my end this is not something my mental health can handle after everything else I have been through.

I live in Canada. Today I may talk to my therapist about applying for assisted suicide for when it's available for mental health reasons in 2023. Since I survived my abuser life has still been kicking my ass over and over again, so I'm just done at this point.

May be 100% vaccine issue, or may be vaccine triggered underlying autoimmune which often linked to trauma. If Youtube search Irene Lyon Autoimmune, may find info on how to help symptoms. Ineffective if 100% vaccine reaction, may help if body reacting with other issues.

May help or not, any avenue worth look. Mainstream medicine ineffective with much autoimmune.

 

[tiredplant777]

May be 100% vaccine issue, or may be vaccine triggered underlying autoimmune which often linked to trauma. If Youtube search Irene Lyon Autoimmune, may find info on how to help symptoms. Ineffective if 100% vaccine reaction, may help if body reacting with other issues.

May help or not, any avenue worth look. Mainstream medicine ineffective with much autoimmune.

Thank you so much I really appreciate it.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Hey, I know you must be having a really hard time right now. Try not to let either camp of people make you feel bad for doing what seemed to be the right decision for you at the time. You had no idea this was going to happen. It isn't your fault at all.

I second what the other person said about autoimmune issues. I have CFS and it's made a mess of my immune system throughout the years, I have weird allergies and responses to things that didn't exist before I got ill. I get random spells of itching, rashes, watery eyes, etc too.

For example, I don't take vaccines anymore because I found the immune response was also making my symptoms worse and causing major crashes. Antihistamines don't really help me either, nor do anti inflammatory drugs.

This is an area of medical science that is still in it's infancy and not really studied (especially Neuroimmunology and issues relating to women's health, since our immune systems operate on a delicate balance that's very easy to disrupt)

I am not sure if you have been tested for other autoimmune conditions/underlying inflammation, but I would reccomend seeing if you can, especially since it is just a blood test and nothing more invasive.

Please don't beat yourself up about what's going on regarding your health. Right now I think this is a super politicised issue in North America, and when those close minded people are slagging you off, they don't want to see the nuance in this topic. They should have more respect for the pain you're enduring right now.

I took a lot of heat myself for not taking the covid vaccine, when no hard data/studies really exist describing how it interacts with underlying systemic autoimmune conditions, not in the short term nor long term. I even got kicked out of where I was living over it and was accused of being an anti vaxxer when I'm not.

At the end of the day, this is your body, and your struggle, people should not be making hateful comments towards you either way. I am truly sorry this happened to you and I do hope there is something out there that may help.

 

[Rational man]

Astrazenica vax triggered.severe health issues with me in march. Just added to my underlying severe illness

 

[Goodbye710]

Some very effective treatments are now available for covid when caught at earliest sign.

Treatments are now starting to gain ground for those vaccine injured but nobody knows how effective yet or how long they are effective but promising. Like covid, would recommend treatment as early as possible to reduce damage.

Canceling the Spike Protein: Striking Visual Evidence

orthomolecular.org

 

[fox_wannabe]

Being abused by a serial killer made it worse

whaaat? o-O

 

[Rational man]

Some very effective treatments are now available for covid when caught at earliest sign.

Treatments are now starting to gain ground for those vaccine injured but nobody knows how effective yet or how long they are effective but promising. Like covid, would recommend treatment as early as possible to reduce damage.

Canceling the Spike Protein: Striking Visual Evidence

orthomolecular.org

Covid is.very smart and mutation variants are baffling. New.variant now being seen in Europe. Some.double vax people are dying.or suffering.

 

[facel]

Astrazenica vax triggered.severe health issues with me in march. Just added to my underlying severe illness

I think it did for me too in June, again on top of underlying illness. What health issues did it trigger in you?

 

[Rational man]

I think it did for me too in June, again on top of underlying illness. What health issues did it trigger in you?

Within 24 hours of vax and to.this day progressive fatigue, weight loss, vomit, abdominal pain, muscle wastage, neuropathy, bowel blockage symptoms, night sweats,dehydration. cannot poop unless i take laxatives. Im on painkillers now. I also stink now like sickness stink. I cannot prove its connected but i find it odd that it came on so quickly after.the firet vax. There's more too, but it never eases up. Its constant, unrelenting and probably linked to my underlying condition. I.read.about a young man.in London. He had cancer and he took.the vax.......He never recovered

 

[facel]

Within 24 hours of vax and to.this day progressive fatigue, weight loss, vomit, abdominal pain, muscle wastage, neuropathy, bowel blockage symptoms, night sweats,dehydration. cannot poop unless i take laxatives. Im on painkillers now. I also stink now like sickness stink. I cannot prove its connected but i find it odd that it came on so quickly after.the firet vax. There's more too, but it never eases up. Its constant, unrelenting and probably linked to my underlying condition. I.read.about a young man.in London. He had cancer and he took.the vax.......He never recovered

So sorry to hear that, sounds terrible. I have some of those too, plus other symptoms. I have an underlying condition with suppressed immunity and I agree that it seems the vaccine triggered a massive, devastating response. It's so bloody complicated!

 

[Rational man]

So sorry to hear that, sounds terrible. I have some of those too, plus other symptoms. I have an underlying condition with suppressed immunity and I agree that it seems the vaccine triggered a massive, devastating response. It's so bloody complicated!

i think it finished me off. My body is.a. dysfunctional.wreck. I was active and healthy and now im like a zombie. This is not the person I knew. i.won't be around but I nope the generations learn.from.this, otherwise humankind.will.self.destruct through.arrogance and ignorance..take care❤❤

 

[Dot]

Thank you so much I really appreciate it.

Just had notification from Youtube channel that new vid posted on healing/working with sexual trauma. FYI.

 

[Goodbye710]

Within 24 hours of vax and to.this day progressive fatigue, weight loss, vomit, abdominal pain, muscle wastage, neuropathy, bowel blockage symptoms, night sweats,dehydration. cannot poop unless i take laxatives. Im on painkillers now. I also stink now like sickness stink. I cannot prove its connected but i find it odd that it came on so quickly after.the firet vax. There's more too, but it never eases up. Its constant, unrelenting and probably linked to my underlying condition. I.read.about a young man.in London. He had cancer and he took.the vax.......He never recovered

Sorry to hear. article Posted earlier mentions the spike protein in the gut. Use of nebulized hydrogens peroxide to help but also the use of the other methods discussed close to bottom of article needed as well. If you have question let me know. Hope you get well.

 

[Rational man]

Thanks, PEACE.

 

[less than]

I am sorry that this has happened to you. Maybe medicines that suppress the immune system to stop the autoimmune reaction could be helpful in your situation. But I have no medical training, so please don't take this as advice and don't try it without professional help. I hope you will recover well from your health problems soon.

 

[Rational man]

I am sorry that this has happened to you. Maybe medicines that suppress the immune system to stop the autoimmune reaction could be helpful in your situation. But I have no medical training, so please don't take this as advice and don't try it without professional help. I hope you will recover well from your health problems soon.

Thanks. PEACE

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Well, the vaccines are dangerous, anyone who says otherwise are brainwashed. More people have died from the covid vaccines in this year alone compared to the last 3 decades of all 78 vaccines combined. There's obviously a bigger agenda at play. Go to your doctor and ask for ivermectin. Or order it from alldaychemist or inhousepharmacy. Pm me and we can talk more about this, not trying to get into arguments with people about this subject

 

[Meditation guide]

(I am not an anti-vaxxer. I am presenting this to be informative.)

This athlete is speaking out about his severe vaccine side effects ( the elderly man is a distinguished doctor in the UK who has a daily video on YT on aspects of covid and the pandemic) :

 

[FuneralCry]

This is not an anti vax post. PLEASE if you are super against these vaccines I get it but unless you have a solution for me your input here won't be helpful and will just make me feel worse and more stupid. Anti vax stuff has done nothing for me but make me feel worse, and I'm barely hanging in there. I got the vaccine because I know people who were very healthy and were young and became incredibly ill with covid and are still recovering a year later. I never felt outside pressure, I just felt horrified by what happened to these people I care about. One of these people lives in Texas and knows 13 people who died of covid, which also influenced my choice. Also like everyone I know who got the vaccine was fine, so yeah, that informed my choice also.
I have PCOS and it's been manageable. Being abused by a serial killer made it worse and for the past three years I've learned how to manage it and it was finally getting a lot better with diet and supplements. My first vaccine flared it up and in the end I didn't know what to do but take medication. The medication is helping but I still feel like my body is out of whack. I feel like an idiot for getting the vaccine now and not taking my own concerns about it seriously. I also feel like this is the last fucking straw on my end. Like I literally cannot cope with this and it's exhausting. I feel so out of control of my body. I feel like I am being assaulted all over again. I now have to deal with two camps of people - the people who don't think adverse effects can happen with these vaccines - and also the people who are anti vaxxers, and the ones I personally know in real life are so fucking judgmental and it's all they talk about now.
I'm just tired. People keep telling me this is temporary but I don't know how temporary it is, if this lasted a month ok, but it had been an issue now since July. The medication I take helps a lot but I am so so freaked out. Feeling out of control of my body is just the one thing I cannot cope with, and PCOS is a disorder that effects the reproductive system, and I guess having sexual abuse history makes all of this worse mentally.

Again if you want to reply I am begging ya'll to just be kind and to offer support. Scary information isn't going to be helpful. Thank you for understanding <3
Also I am super aware that this health stuff is not as bad as having a bad case of covid like the people I know did. I can still breath well. It's just on my end this is not something my mental health can handle after everything else I have been through.

I live in Canada. Today I may talk to my therapist about applying for assisted suicide for when it's available for mental health reasons in 2023. Since I survived my abuser life has still been kicking my ass over and over again, so I'm just done at this point.

I'm sorry you are suffering, it sounds like you have been through a lot and I understand it is hard to carry on when you are exhausted. I hope you find the peace you are looking for.

 

[tiredplant777]

Hey, I know you must be having a really hard time right now. Try not to let either camp of people make you feel bad for doing what seemed to be the right decision for you at the time. You had no idea this was going to happen. It isn't your fault at all.

I second what the other person said about autoimmune issues. I have CFS and it's made a mess of my immune system throughout the years, I have weird allergies and responses to things that didn't exist before I got ill. I get random spells of itching, rashes, watery eyes, etc too.

For example, I don't take vaccines anymore because I found the immune response was also making my symptoms worse and causing major crashes. Antihistamines don't really help me either, nor do anti inflammatory drugs.

This is an area of medical science that is still in it's infancy and not really studied (especially Neuroimmunology and issues relating to women's health, since our immune systems operate on a delicate balance that's very easy to disrupt)

I am not sure if you have been tested for other autoimmune conditions/underlying inflammation, but I would reccomend seeing if you can, especially since it is just a blood test and nothing more invasive.

Please don't beat yourself up about what's going on regarding your health. Right now I think this is a super politicised issue in North America, and when those close minded people are slagging you off, they don't want to see the nuance in this topic. They should have more respect for the pain you're enduring right now.

I took a lot of heat myself for not taking the covid vaccine, when no hard data/studies really exist describing how it interacts with underlying systemic autoimmune conditions, not in the short term nor long term. I even got kicked out of where I was living over it and was accused of being an anti vaxxer when I'm not.

At the end of the day, this is your body, and your struggle, people should not be making hateful comments towards you either way. I am truly sorry this happened to you and I do hope there is something out there that may help.

Thank you so much for such a kind and nuanced response, this is really helpful. I'm sorry people gave you such a hard time that you had to move, but good for you for sticking to your values about your health. It's worth it.

Astrazenica vax triggered.severe health issues with me in march. Just added to my underlying severe illness

I read your explanations for this. I am so, so sorry, You are in much worse shape than I am. I hope things get better, you deserve them to.

Some very effective treatments are now available for covid when caught at earliest sign.

Treatments are now starting to gain ground for those vaccine injured but nobody knows how effective yet or how long they are effective but promising. Like covid, would recommend treatment as early as possible to reduce damage.

Canceling the Spike Protein: Striking Visual Evidence

orthomolecular.org

Thank you!

whaaat? o-O

lol yeah.

Just had notification from Youtube channel that new vid posted on healing/working with sexual trauma. FYI.

Ah what I am, so great I will look into it! Thank you for this!

Well, the vaccines are dangerous, anyone who says otherwise are brainwashed. More people have died from the covid vaccines in this year alone compared to the last 3 decades of all 78 vaccines combined. There's obviously a bigger agenda at play. Go to your doctor and ask for ivermectin. Or order it from alldaychemist or inhousepharmacy. Pm me and we can talk more about this, not trying to get into arguments with people about this subject

thank you

(I am not an anti-vaxxer. I am presenting this to be informative.)

This athlete is speaking out about his severe vaccine side effects ( the elderly man is a distinguished doctor in the UK who has a daily video on YT on aspects of covid and the pandemic) :

Thank you! If the guy doing better now? I feel like I see these stories all over, it's so scary.

 

[PDAnnie2610]

This is not an anti vax post. PLEASE if you are super against these vaccines I get it but unless you have a solution for me your input here won't be helpful and will just make me feel worse and more stupid. Anti vax stuff has done nothing for me but make me feel worse, and I'm barely hanging in there. I got the vaccine because I know people who were very healthy and were young and became incredibly ill with covid and are still recovering a year later. I never felt outside pressure, I just felt horrified by what happened to these people I care about. One of these people lives in Texas and knows 13 people who died of covid, which also influenced my choice. Also like everyone I know who got the vaccine was fine, so yeah, that informed my choice also.
I have PCOS and it's been manageable. Being abused by a serial killer made it worse and for the past three years I've learned how to manage it and it was finally getting a lot better with diet and supplements. My first vaccine flared it up and in the end I didn't know what to do but take medication. The medication is helping but I still feel like my body is out of whack. I feel like an idiot for getting the vaccine now and not taking my own concerns about it seriously. I also feel like this is the last fucking straw on my end. Like I literally cannot cope with this and it's exhausting. I feel so out of control of my body. I feel like I am being assaulted all over again. I now have to deal with two camps of people - the people who don't think adverse effects can happen with these vaccines - and also the people who are anti vaxxers, and the ones I personally know in real life are so fucking judgmental and it's all they talk about now.
I'm just tired. People keep telling me this is temporary but I don't know how temporary it is, if this lasted a month ok, but it had been an issue now since July. The medication I take helps a lot but I am so so freaked out. Feeling out of control of my body is just the one thing I cannot cope with, and PCOS is a disorder that effects the reproductive system, and I guess having sexual abuse history makes all of this worse mentally.

Again if you want to reply I am begging ya'll to just be kind and to offer support. Scary information isn't going to be helpful. Thank you for understanding <3
Also I am super aware that this health stuff is not as bad as having a bad case of covid like the people I know did. I can still breath well. It's just on my end this is not something my mental health can handle after everything else I have been through.

I live in Canada. Today I may talk to my therapist about applying for assisted suicide for when it's available for mental health reasons in 2023. Since I survived my abuser life has still been kicking my ass over and over again, so I'm just done at this point.

Hi from a fellow sufferer of pcos. Pcos is not easy and I'm happy to talk on pm if you want.

 

[tiredplant777]

Hi from a fellow sufferer of pcos. Pcos is not easy and I'm happy to talk on pm if you want.

Thank you so much. I'll pm you.

 

[Rational man]

(I am not an anti-vaxxer. I am presenting this to be informative.)

This athlete is speaking out about his severe vaccine side effects ( the elderly man is a distinguished doctor in the UK who has a daily video on YT on aspects of covid and the pandemic) :

The doctor is.really in the know. He was sounding the.alarm back in January 2020 on reports coming out of China. We had warning s then. I was on a plane to Lisbon.at that time and Chinese tourists were coughing in the airport!

 

[tiredplant777]

Hey everyone I was looking through my history and found this post. I wanted to share an update. So within four months the reaction calmed down and went away. I never got my second dose for obvious reasons. I'm really glad I didn't. Three weeks ago I got vaccinated with Novavax and it caused zero flare ups and no issues. I think I have extra PTSD from my vaccine reaction though, which sucks lol. I lost my job and couldn't qualify for EI because in Canada the rules with vaccines were so strict. Luckily my parents have good jobs and supported me, plus my old job wasn't great, so this wasn't super bad on my end, my parents had no issues supporting me financially. If it hadn't been for them I think I would have committed suicide during this time because it felt like this reaction was like the last straw and I just didn't want to deal with it, it was so scary and also was re-traumatizing in terms of feeling out of control of my body, feeling like my body and myself had been damaged, and having very little support, beyond my parents who live far away. When stuff comes up about the vaccine and I have to talk about it I always end up feeling awful and then crying a lot for the next few days lol. I regret getting it a lot because I realize now my concerns were very valid, and it's caused a lot of logistical issues, like I can't get my second novavax for a long time now even though I may not have great immune response because the times between the doses were so long, the provincial rules where I live are so strict. I'm going to be visiting my parents and I'm going to try and get the second novavax there where the province rules may be different. Another hard thing was the amount of inhumanity I saw with a lot of people I know, everyone became so black and white about the subject that I couldn't really get any support and a lot of people I know got really intense about covid not being real. I am very glad that I did not commit suicide for my parent's sake. It has been exhausting having to navigate system that I know doesn't care about me, but also navigating the reality that a lot of people I know don't care about those who are immune compromised.