Method I need a realistic method. I’d appreciate any genuine suggestions.

[depressomartin.iis]

Hi,

I've been searching for a realistic method to CTB for years now. I have a chronic illness living in pain every day which is making my live unbearable. I'm also Bipolar type 2 and seem to be a bit of a lost cause with treatments for these things..

Anyway I have attempted overdoses of amitriptyline and other meds i cant remember in the past 3 times. All unsuccessful (obviously) with the amitriptyline being the closest call.

I'm struggling with the idea of overdosing tablets because I had a surgery on my stomach last year which left me with some problems and I'm worried that will interfere with success.

Im scared of hanging because of the pain.

I just dont know what else to do. I guess like everyone else probably does, i just want a painless peaceful exit. Life has been pretty cruel so far. I've tried my hardest to give it a shot but its too hard to live in this much physical pain.

I hope anyone can help

Thanks everyone! X

 

[FuneralCry]

If you wish to read about methods then there is the suicide resource compilation on here, it really does sound so awful and tiring what you have to endure, I don't really think that overdosing on prescription pills/easily accessible medication is a reliable method anyway, sadly we exist in a world where suicide is made as difficult as possible for people. But anyway I hope that you eventually find the freedom you are searching for, it's cruel to me how suicide isn't much easier.

 

[MiraiShisen]

I have chronic illness too and I live in pain. I have not been able to go outside for months am just lying in bed most of the day. My only option is hanging, and I have tried already and it was not that painfull, all you have to do is withstand like 10 second untill you are unconscious. I would reconsider hanging if I were you. IF you are not certain about chemical suicide then hanging is probably best option. You can check night-night method or tourniquet, which probably are not that painfull as full suspension. Partial suspension is also not too painfull, you have to put noose at the upper part of neck near jaw and on that place it is not as painfull as on or under adams apple. (Part where it hurts most is front)

Or you can drown yourself. I know that there is shallow water blackout you can use it to drown yourself. If you have firearm then you can end it by it.

 

[PurpleVoid]

I'm bipolar 2 as well. I feel like that type is more resistant to treatment. Of course psychiatry as a whole has no idea what they're doing. They don't even know the cause of depression, or what exactly is happening in the brain. They just find drugs that work sometimes without knowing why, and prescribe them, because it's better than nothing. Anyway, end of sidetrack.

I live in an area where access to guns is unrestricted. I don't even need a permit to buy one. It's really the most reliable and "painless" way, but I understand if you can't get your hands on one, or can't afford to buy even a used one. People worry about the mess, but I've decided to find a somewhat off-the-beaten-path area in nature, send a delayed message or email to the authorities with my location, and then CTB. It's outside, so not as much of a mess. The first people to find me will hopefully be authorities and not family or random strangers.

I'd really caution against the night-night method (with the ratcheting strap and putting pressure on the arteries). I came across a thread here where someone talked about their failed CBT experience using that method, and others chimed in with similar experiences. In theory it seems like a great idea, but when done wrong you can end up alive with brain damage or it won't work at all.

 

[MiraiShisen]

I'm bipolar 2 as well. I feel like that type is more resistant to treatment. Of course psychiatry as a whole has no idea what they're doing. They don't even know the cause of depression, or what exactly is happening in the brain. They just find drugs that work sometimes without knowing why, and prescribe them, because it's better than nothing. Anyway, end of sidetrack.

I live in an area where access to guns is unrestricted. I don't even need a permit to buy one. It's really the most reliable and "painless" way, but I understand if you can't get your hands on one, or can't afford to buy even a used one. People worry about the mess, but I've decided to find a somewhat off-the-beaten-path area in nature, send a delayed message or email to the authorities with my location, and then CTB. It's outside, so not as much of a mess. The first people to find me will hopefully be authorities and not family or random strangers.

I'd really caution against the night-night method (with the ratcheting strap and putting pressure on the arteries). I came across a thread here where someone talked about their failed CBT experience using that method, and others chimed in with similar experiences. In theory it seems like a great idea, but when done wrong you can end up alive with brain damage or it won't work at all.

I did not read much about night-night so I only know that it exist as a substitute method for hanging. But hanging is one of best method if you are poor like me, its pretty quick ( if done right) and cheap. Also quiet which is sometimes needed. But he can drown himself if hanging is painfull. Thats also cheap and do not require anything aside of water and knowledge.

 

[NoFutureAnymore]

I prefer the inert gas with a SCBA/SCUBA setup.
As I understood it:
Pro's:

• Painless;
• High success rate according "Exit bag and inert gas megathread";
  • "Failures" were probably caused by low purity gas
• No physical damages to your body;
• No danger for the environment;
• Materials are legal and everywhere available.

Con's:

• Expensive;
• Some technical knowledge required;
• Sometimes long delivery times (especially SCBA setup);
• You have to shave yourself (especially SCUBA).

 

[Huggs]

I want to go with SN, but it's pretty much impossible to acquire. I've heard people in Europe have an easier time though so if you live there maybe it's an option. I would've gone with hanging but it seems like my carotid arteries are buried too deep.

 

[depressomartin.iis]

I want to go with SN, but it's pretty much impossible to acquire. I've heard people in Europe have an easier time though so if you live there maybe it's an option. I would've gone with hanging but it seems like my carotid arteries are buried too deep.

What is SN? I'm in the Uk so could be an option

 

[AShipinthedark]

This suggestion will do nothing for having a peaceful end, I would encourage you to try another method as this one is rather aggressive, but in a pinch, might work. I tried it because of the difficulty to abort, due to the nature of the material used. Granted, obviously, SI was stronger that day and I managed to abort, but I did mentally note how difficult it was to get out of, and were I not stopped from my second attempt, well I would not be sharing this with you.
Strangulation via Medical Bandage. Not the sticky kind, the rough brown stretchy kind, I think latex? Anyway when tied and pulled taught it can be almost impossible to remove. However, again it carries a high degree of failure, and is strangulation, so it is very uncomfortable.

Edit: Spelling and Grammar, my COMM systems are beginning to erode...

 

[CTB Dream]

Mthod co mthod n2 also inert, this most rl cuz alws posbl get gas, only prblm need setup etc

 

[NoFutureAnymore]

Mthod co mthod n2 also inert, this most rl cuz alws posbl get gas, only prblm need setup etc

CO is definitely not an inert gas like N2 and works completely different and the steps to ctb are also very different. Inert gas prevents you from inhaling O2 in and blows CO2 away which prevents you from getting the feeling of suffocation. CO on the other hand takes the place of O2 in the blood which prevents your blood from absorbing oxygen. They both have different risks so it's import to study them separately.

 

[befree]

Inert gas prevents you from inhaling O2 in and blows CO2 away which prevents you from getting the feeling of suffocation.

Yes, in the best case. But it depends on the used inert gas method.

with the amitriptyline being the closest call

related threads:

substances deadly overdose (studies/stats/charts)

Study on various categories of substances, number of cases and mortality Amitriptyline and doxepin as the deadliest. Not counting with Amoxapine, Desipramine and Imipramine because of their small sample size (their LD50s are twice as high as well)

sanctioned-suicide.net

Amitriptyline guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Amitriptyline guide "Tricyclic antidepressants General info Tricyclic antidepressants are psychotropic drugs with a general mood-lifting...

sanctioned-suicide.net

alternatives:

Need Ideas

New here, sorry if I'm doing this wrong LOL. Anyways, my preferred method until lately has been firearm, but I'm in a bit of a predicament. I'm aware that if I do so, because I have access to them because of my father that my mother and her family will go after him and try to charge him for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

This is just a general information. I do not encourage you to commit suicide and to use these methods. You act on your own responsibility.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Anyway I have attempted overdoses of amitriptyline and other meds i cant remember in the past 3 times. All unsuccessful (obviously) with the amitriptyline being the closest call.

Did you follow a proven protocol? Also see OD methods in the PPeH. I hope you find peace!

Amitriptyline guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Amitriptyline guide "Tricyclic antidepressants General info Tricyclic antidepressants are psychotropic drugs with a general mood-lifting...

www.sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[NoFutureAnymore]

Yes, in the best case. But it depends on the used inert gas method.

True, that's why I would recommend @CTB Dream to read the corresponding mega threads. I didn't want to start the discussion about the specific methods here.

 

[CTB Dream]

True, that's why I would recommend @CTB Dream to read the corresponding mega threads. I didn't want to start the discussion about the specific methods here.

Me not say co inert

 

[depressomartin.iis]

I dont really have anywhere accessible to hang myself unfortunately. I'd like to die at home, but I'm scared of an overdose going wrong.

I do have a lot of metoclopramide to stop the sickness but it doesnt always work when I'm not well. And my previous history with overdoses always resulted in being sick (all were taken without an antisickness though)

Since my operation on my stomach I cant be sick but i will dry heave with horrible nausea and I wouldnt want that to be the last thing I experience before i ctb.

Its so hard to find the right method, i wish firearms were available in the UK. I'd be long gone

 

[thejumper]

I have chronic illness too and I live in pain. I have not been able to go outside for months am just lying in bed most of the day. My only option is hanging, and I have tried already and it was not that painfull, all you have to do is withstand like 10 second untill you are unconscious. I would reconsider hanging if I were you. IF you are not certain about chemical suicide then hanging is probably best option. You can check night-night method or tourniquet, which probably are not that painfull as full suspension. Partial suspension is also not too painfull, you have to put noose at the upper part of neck near jaw and on that place it is not as painfull as on or under adams apple. (Part where it hurts most is front)

Or you can drown yourself. I know that there is shallow water blackout you can use it to drown yourself. If you have firearm then you can end it by it.

Why don't you CTB with hanging method then? Just curious

cheers

 

[CW36]

Hanging is totally misunderstood. Full suspension is one of the most reliable and quick deaths. If carried out correctly, the pain will be felt for a matter of seconds before blackout. It's the most popular method overall worldwide and it's not hard to see why. And you can thank Hungerford and Dunblane for the firearms. Although we did have that Plymouth shooting recently. Guns are still out there. Farmers are well know to CTB with the old shotgun here.

 

[Kera]

with the amitriptyline being the closest call

Surely then propranolol with amitriptyline would be just as successful!?

 

[MiraiShisen]

Why don't you CTB with hanging method then? Just curious

cheers

I will and I did not say that I wont, but it is not easy to end your life even if you have a perfect method