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noname223

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I insulted him a couple of times for his opinions. I ghosted him the last years mostly. 3 weeks ago he wanted to meet. I felt really bad because I just quitted college and did not want to be alone. I agreed to meet him. One can see he has radicalized himself over the years a lot. He is a lot worse than one year ago. He gets worse and worse. I sort of humilated him intellectually by disecting his bogus political takes. He is MAGA supporter, loves eugenics and is into pseudo science while worshipping IQ all the time. Quite sick. I called him a couple of times out and proved him so many thinking fallacies so much that he does not text me anymore despite the fact he is probably pretty lonely. But that's it if you are an asshole like that you will end up very lonely. (It does not equate though if you are lonely, you must be an asshole. That's certainly not true)

He sort of bragged with having sex in front of me. He looks sort of sloppy, he smelled bad. He pretended in every psychotic thoughts there is a small percentage of truth. Tbh I think if you think like that you already lost the battle of sanity. In the past he told me he went to bars and asked the women "Do you want to fuck with me?". I think he does not know shame anymore. And he told me I have to be less shame obsessed. With that he has a point. I have a very strong sense of shame. It was akward to walk with him around while he was telling all this bullshit. But I am sort of used to it when my dad is around. He is into Nietzsche, Curtis Yarvin, Freud. He told me there was a woman who was not interested in him, then he slept with her best friend and suddenly she was interested in him. He said he really enjoyed that and he was so proud of himself. My personal theory on that is: yes there are women who tend to search for toxic and abusive partnerships especially when they are traumatized and have self-worth issues. I would highly disagree with his take "treat women bad" -> they will start to like you. This is delusional. If he asks so many women directly whether they want to have sex with him, it seems likely that a small percentage is willing to do it. And he humiliated himself in 95% of all attempts. Tbh I think I could not live like that. I could not look myself into the mirror. This is sexual harrassment. A disgusting human being.

The story gets worse. He has like a cousin with whom he went to parties. I don't know the exact wording anymore. But he told me something like his cousin (or uncle?) is a psychopath that uses knockout drops to sleep (-> rape would be the right word) with women. And he said his uncle (cousin? whatever) slept with over one hundred prostitutes and treats them so bad. Before he told me that (we were in the psychiatry walking close to the forensic) he joked how so many Syrian refugees commit shameless crimes. Well I had him in a logic chockhold. I told him well him well if a relative of you treats women like that that's cool and admirable. But if a refugee does that he is evil and we have to throw all of them out of the country. He was a little bit stunned after that reply. He is in a cult and is not used to it when people disagree with him. That's obvious.

After that encounter I decided to ghost him again. I ridiculed his whole bogus ideology beforehand. This was weird, I tend to have weird stories to tell. But they are all true but I am also a good storyteller I think. And I think I am not that much into secrecy. This could be seen as bad. But it helps me to organize my thoughts to share and analyze them. Getting feedback from others.
 
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alwaysalone

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None of what you described is an inherently "conservative" trait. This whole "story" just kind of seems like a poor guise to ridicule what you believe are conservative traits.
 
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noname223

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None of what you described is an inherently "conservative" trait. This whole "story" just kind of seems like a poor guise to ridicule what you believe are conservative traits.
When did I mention the word conservative? He is a Trumpist. For me Trump certainly is no conservative. Trump believes in nothing except money. He has no moral values. He does not want to "conserve" values.
 
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When did mention the word conservative? He is a Trumpist. For me Trump certainly is no conservative. Trump believes in nothing except money. He has no moral values. He does not want to "conserve" values.
Right wing ARE the conservatives. It has little to do with wanting to conserve values. It's more about fiscal issues. Look I don't care who you support or who you voted for. It's not my business and it honestly doesn't matter. I do however believe in facts and not intentionally misrepresenting any other group just because you don't agree with them.
 
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noname223

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Right wing ARE the conservatives. It has little to do with wanting to conserve values. It's more about fiscal issues.
Not really. Not all right-wingers are conservatives. There are right-wing extremists who want more or less anarcho-capitalism and a revolution. I would not insult conservatives in such a way by confusing them with Trumpists or the Curtis Yarvin types. If you want to abolish democracy and implement a monarchy with a CEO as leader this has nothing to do with conservatism.
 
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The acquaintance is obviously brain dead and should be removed from life support. No contact.
 
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alwaysalone

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Not really. Not all right-wingers are conservatives. There are right-wing extremists who want more or less anarcho-capitalism and a revolution. I would not insult conservatives in such a way by confusing them with Trumpists or the Curtis Yarvin types. If you want to abolish democracy and implement a monarchy with a CEO as leader this has nothing to do with conservatism.
No offense but are you an American? Because we use right wing and conservative pretty interchangeably. Just as liberal and democrat are used interchangeably. I don't know about conservatives in other countries if you're from another country that may be the confusion. I thought you were American because you keep brining up PoTUS. I have no desire to abolish democracy I am willing to die for it. I have generations in my family back to the Revolutionary war who have fought and died for democracy. Your audacity and presumption are astounding. Good bye and good luck.
 
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noname223

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No offense but are you an American? Because we use right wing and conservative pretty interchangeably. Just as liberal and democrat are used interchangeably. I don't know about conservatives in other countries if you're from another country that may be the confusion. I thought you were American because you keep brining up PoTUS. I have no desire to abolish democracy I am willing to die for it. I have generations in my family back to the Revolutionary war who have fought and died for democracy. Your audacity and presumption are astounding. Good bye and good luck.
No, I am not from the US. You also cannot from a political science standpoint equate Democrats (with a capital D) with liberalism. I would not consider Bernie Sanders or AOC a liberal. (I know Sanders runs as an independent). I think this confusion is caused by the fact that the American media ecosystem is so intoxicated that it does not allow nuances and differentiations. In Europe we consider the GOP right-wing extremist in huge parts and in many elements Anti-democratic. (not mainly conservative)
 
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cemeteryismyhome

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Whenever I see a new topic from noname, I know it's going to be good. Kind of impressive how it's one after the other and no two alike. :))
 
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It's interesting to me that the Yarvinites command so much attention now. He was sort of my first "foray" into young-man politics. What did you think of Yarvin's debate at Harvard?

Your "friend" sounds like an interesting young man (I'm always interested in "extremism"). If RWers weren't so cloistered I'd likely associate with them more... Anyway, he's probably not that intelligent if he stumbles at some "gotcha'd" tu quoque.
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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It's interesting to me that the Yarvinites command so much attention now. He was sort of my first "foray" into young-man politics. What did you think of Yarvin's debate at Harvard?

Your "friend" sounds like an interesting young man (I'm always interested in "extremism"). If RWers weren't so cloistered I'd likely associate with them more... Anyway, he's probably not that intelligent if he stumbles at some "gotcha'd" tu quoque.
I did not watch Yarvin's debate at Harvard but it sounds interesting.
 
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wtf I would just ignore such a person. I can't imagine where you got all the patience to explain something to him, or why you would ever walk with him...

also it seems like you are talking with every weirdo on your way... one story bizarre than the other
 
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pollux

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May 24, 2024
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No offense but are you an American? Because we use right wing and conservative pretty interchangeably. Just as liberal and democrat are used interchangeably. I don't know about conservatives in other countries if you're from another country that may be the confusion. I thought you were American because you keep brining up PoTUS. I have no desire to abolish democracy I am willing to die for it. I have generations in my family back to the Revolutionary war who have fought and died for democracy. Your audacity and presumption are astounding. Good bye and good luck.

I'm not american, but american politics tends to be world politics so that doesn't really fly as an argument. Conservativism is one strand of right wing politics, and it's definitely not the only one.
It's interesting to me that the Yarvinites command so much attention now. He was sort of my first "foray" into young-man politics. What did you think of Yarvin's debate at Harvard?

Your "friend" sounds like an interesting young man (I'm always interested in "extremism"). If RWers weren't so cloistered I'd likely associate with them more... Anyway, he's probably not that intelligent if he stumbles at some "gotcha'd" tu quoque.

Probably going to go the same way as landian accelerationism to be honest. Main guy had his brain melted after snorking cocaine on twitter and the whole thing became a meme.
 
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The Actual Devil

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May 4, 2025
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Not really. Not all right-wingers are conservatives. There are right-wing extremists who want more or less anarcho-capitalism and a revolution. I would not insult conservatives in such a way by confusing them with Trumpists or the Curtis Yarvin types. If you want to abolish democracy and implement a monarchy with a CEO as leader this has nothing to do with conservatism.
I saw on a political spectrum years ago that if you went a bit further to the right of conservative, there was the term "regressive." Can't find that model right now, but it's a term I think fits the MAGA crowd perfectly. Their slogan (and what the acronym spells out) literally harkens back to a previous time that they want to go back to, and going backwards is the definition of "regression." Honestly, logically, they should embrace it.

Also, your story inspired me to write my next dark humor joke in the "Gallows Humor" thread.

PS, before you click on that link, that thread has ALL the trigger warnings.
 
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quins

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I saw on a political spectrum years ago that if you went a bit further to the right of conservative, there was the term "regressive." Can't find that model right now, but it's a term I think fits the MAGA crowd perfectly. Their slogan (and what the acronym spells out) literally harkens back to a previous time that they want to go back to, and going backwards is the definition of "regression." Honestly, logically, they should embrace it.
Only if you assume that there is in fact "progress" and not just "degeneration."
Probably going to go the same way as landian accelerationism to be honest. Main guy had his brain melted after snorking cocaine on twitter and the whole thing became a meme.
Maybe, but Yarvinism, with its cross-generational appeal which speaks to Mannerbund-types and "oldcels" alike, exists in our present era alongside BAPism, HBD eugenicists and Thielists (among many other offshoots), all during the reign of TrumpWorld; frankly, as a "techbro neoreactionary" he has a lot more political pull than whatever dopeslinging arcanist Land is...