Discussion I hate when no one cares about adults

[Oguzok]

I hate when it comes to death, the media or specific people are always like that; "N-number of minors have died" or "Minors are becoming victims of your damn website!" But no one cares about adults, like why doesn't anyone ever talk about adults? Don't they deserve pity, at least a mention?

I understand that minors are more vulnerable as a group, they are not as mature intellectually and emotionally... but adults can be vulnerable too, they also feel bad, and they kills themselves (for a reason too). It just hurts me to see that no one cares about adults. Never. ​

 

[アホペンギン]

Yeah, I don't understand this fascination with minors coming here, even though a minor being here is arguably a lot worse than an adult being here, I still don't understand as to why they are prioritized over adults.. Shouldn't it worrisome to see an adult here too? We are all humans..

And if these people are so worried about minors coming here, instead of blaming the website for anything done, the things in question are nonexistent by the way, blame yourself and address the problem to fix it! If their problems had been solved beforehand, the minors wouldn't have even come here in the first place!

 

[warm dreams]

Very good point! In my opinion, this is due to the slave system of government in states. No one cares about adults, because they have fulfilled their functions, for example: they have paid a lot of taxes during the time they work and, most importantly, they have produced offspring who will work for the state in the future. Their function is fulfilled and therefore the media does not care about them. But with the younger generation it's a different matter - they have not yet completed the tasks that lie ahead of them and that's why so much attention is paid to them.

 

[アホペンギン]

Very good point! In my opinion, this is due to the slave system of government in states. No one cares about adults, because they have fulfilled their functions, for example: they have paid a lot of taxes during the time they work and, most importantly, they have produced offspring who will work for the state in the future. Their function is fulfilled and therefore the media does not care about them. But with the younger generation it's a different matter - they have not yet completed the tasks that lie ahead of them and that's why so much attention is paid to them.

Adding to this, everything in this world revolves around whether or not you're a functional member of society, making a negligible difference, since that's what we're all doomed to do anyways. Furthermore, the society cares about those actions that we were disinclined to do, and said actions aren't even worth considering, forcing us to stay alive to fulfill our continuous "duties", without an end in sight. Absolutely absurd.

 

[gbi2]

Yeah, I don't understand this fascination with minors coming here, even though a minor being here is arguably a lot worse than an adult being here, I still don't understand as to why they are prioritized over adults.. Shouldn't it worrisome to see an adult here too? We are all humans..

And if these people are so worried about minors coming here, instead of blaming the website for anything done, the things in question are nonexistent by the way, blame yourself and address the problem to fix it! If their problems had been solved beforehand, the minors wouldn't have even come here in the first place!

This is the thing. A minor should be supervised on the internet anyway, just like they should be supervised in a shopping centre or crossing a busy road. So even if there was a problem with how they feel, the parent should be sat by them anyway. Old enough to be left alone without regular checking up, is old enough to be trusted to make their own decisions.

As Eminem once rapped "And they blame it on Marilyn and the heroin, Where were the parents at?"

Very good point! In my opinion, this is due to the slave system of government in states. No one cares about adults, because they have fulfilled their functions, for example: they have paid a lot of taxes during the time they work and, most importantly, they have produced offspring who will work for the state in the future. Their function is fulfilled and therefore the media does not care about them. But with the younger generation it's a different matter - they have not yet completed the tasks that lie ahead of them and that's why so much attention is paid to them.

Nobody in power minds adults committing suicide, they'd rather the ones without savings did it the day they retire.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I feel like this is because humans as a whole are naturally more biased towards kids and reacts more intensely when it comes to kids. This doesn't happen only when it comes to suicide but it happens in every situation. I can't say fully why this bias exists but I feel like it's due to how people view kids as innocent (which I personally don't as I got bullied by a few), how people view kids as not fully independent thinkers yet (which I kinda agree with), how people view kids with more potential due to their creativity + young age and, ultimately, just brain chemicals doing their functions to make people more inclined to want to care about kids being in bad situations so that humanity overall can procreate more.

As for adults, the way they get treated in contrast to children is easily observable. People don't really care about adults as much as, if something bad happens to an adult in a lot of cases (though not all), people claim that it's the adult person's fault and that they're the only reason why life isn't working out for them. People don't see adults as vulnerable at all but rather as those who have full control over their life and their unhappiness is due to them only.

I wonder just how many people would be suicidal if humanity as a whole cared for those existing here

 

[tiger b]

This is the thing. A minor should be supervised on the internet anyway, just like they should be supervised in a shopping centre or crossing a busy road. So even if there was a problem with how they feel, the parent should be sat by them anyway. O

This.

There are things that parents can do to check up on their children, just many choose not to do it, or don't even think about it. It doesn't have to be sneaky or authoritarian.

Good parenting is hard work, even harder if parents are doing demanding jobs. Yet, having the internet and the playstation etc doing the bulk of occupying the children is just rolling dice. Neglect is a serious issue that affects all social groups.

In the UK, putting the responsibility on the websites and platforms is easier than the parents - parents are voters, after all. We have not invested properly in society, the services are bare and it's just going to get worse. Social services are underfunded and a joke. Don't even start me on education (still seen by too many as glorified babysitting), times are desperate and watch this space for more upheaval.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think adults are more willing to allow other adults to make 'unwise' choices. An awful lot of adults are killing themselves slowly anyway with alcohol, tobacco, drugs, fast food. Perhaps they think it's less likely they will convince us out of it. Would they accept being told what to do? With children, they probably feel like they can be more condescending.

I imagine they see children as more vulnerable too- being less emotionally and psychologically developed. Some would probably prefer to think their child is impressionable too rather than suicidal. That they fell into the evil clutches of an online death cult rather than to admit to themselves that their child was struggling so badly that they wanted out.

Plus- the people that are the most concerned about this place are probably parents. So- they're naturally going to worry more about their own children and other people's children- rather than us. To a greater extreme- to some- we are going to seem like the enemy. We are possibly having conversations with minors in which we neither tell them not to kill themselves and worse- maybe advise them on methods. One major reason I tend to avoid method talk.

Some people do care about adults though. Now and again, you'll get a 'do-gooder' come on to try and 'save' people. They usually annoy everyone and get shunted to the recovery section. Or- if they are too zealous- they get banned. It's supposed to be pro-choice after all. From the conversations I've had with pro-lifers here- I think I'd prefer them not to care! It usually ends up unpleasantly when they realise their saviour complex isn't having any effect.

 

[blacksand]

I was thinking about that earlier. As a 28yr old plain looking white man without a successful life it feels like I'm basically expected to kill myself by society. Of course people preach all the prolife vomit but often the mask slips and they'll call you a loser and say stuff like maybe you should just kill yourself.

 

[hellispink]

This society is mess up. No one cares about the mental health of adults. They put priority to minors when we should put priority to adults , why? Because adults are the one raising those children and if they fucked up mentally so will the next generation and the cycle will keep on repeating. They make everything hard for adults after a person is over 18, the resources are very limited and adults are expected to take care and put solution to things. But life doesnt work like that we all need help truly

 

[Abyssal]

It's not just about death, when it comes to the emotional well-being of others, a child is to be protected whereas an adult who is struggling will make everybody uncomfortable and dislike them. Likewise, society often tells children that adults are to be listened to and respected no matter what, even when they are faulty beings. The pressure put on adults to maintain perfection works not only to erase the troubles we experience, but to wrongly tell children that we determine their worth.

We are all so fucked.