body_snatcher

body_snatcher

green and lonely
Jan 23, 2023
39
So useless. I tried to use one tonight because I was feeling so suicidal. I was tempted to text people that I was going to kill myself over and over and had to keep deleting the message draft. I just want it to end.

I get on the chat feature so I can stay more anonymous, and now I'm in line waiting. Kind of ironic, says a lot without saying much. I already waited for five hours today at the vet hospital, whats more waiting?

Now we're talking and it's all canned responses. Nothing human at all about it. All she wants to know is if I'm going to do it or not, not how I'm feeling or what led me to this place. She asked me if I've been harming myself and I told her I'm a serial cutter but I'm trying to stop. Then she just ditched me like that, stopped responding. My own suicide hotline councilor ditched me. As if that wouldn't confirm everything I was already thinking.

I should have known better, I texted and made calls throughout highschool and was disappointed every single time. Now looking at it, it almost represents mental health institutions in general. Completely fucking clueless.

When my cat dies I don't think I'll have anything to live for anymore.
 
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nureinFuchs

nureinFuchs

Whatever happens, happens...
Apr 1, 2023
29
They have no clue... they don't care... the only thing they care is to buy a space in "heaven" by doing this empty action of kindness...
If you want to talk feel free to reach me out on my dm, sometimes a good company can put your mind at ease for a while...
 
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Worndown

Worndown

Illuminated
Mar 21, 2019
3,079
A real human would be more helpful. An AI voicemail system just fuels the problems.
Your call matters to us, press one if...

In reality, about all they can do is give a pep-talk to keep you alive until tomorrow. That does not satisfy every problem.
 
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Ameya

Ameya

A nobody
Mar 22, 2021
130
I have a similar story like that. I relate in a way. One time I opened up to someone about my suicidal ideation and they called a hotline. I didn't even do it. They didn't even pick up lmao
 
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Hikikomori1

Hikikomori1

Experienced
Mar 27, 2023
289
I have always hated hotlines complete fucking bullshit virtue signaling they are just telling you what you want to hear.
 
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Meinzer01

New Member
May 26, 2023
2
So useless. I tried to use one tonight because I was feeling so suicidal. I was tempted to text people that I was going to kill myself over and over and had to keep deleting the message draft. I just want it to end.

I get on the chat feature so I can stay more anonymous, and now I'm in line waiting. Kind of ironic, says a lot without saying much. I already waited for five hours today at the vet hospital, whats more waiting?

Now we're talking and it's all canned responses. Nothing human at all about it. All she wants to know is if I'm going to do it or not, not how I'm feeling or what led me to this place. She asked me if I've been harming myself and I told her I'm a serial cutter but I'm trying to stop. Then she just ditched me like that, stopped responding. My own suicide hotline councilor ditched me. As if that wouldn't confirm everything I was already thinking.

I should have known better, I texted and made calls throughout highschool and was disappointed every single time. Now looking at it, it almost represents mental health institutions in general. Completely fucking clueless.

When my cat dies I don't think I'll have anything to live for anymore.
I feel you, the Veteran crisis line was the same, just put me on a hold so i hung up because you got to realize nobody cares about our problems. People only care when you actually end your life but even then, they only care for a short while.
 
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usernameforss

Member
Jan 17, 2023
23
So useless. I tried to use one tonight because I was feeling so suicidal. I was tempted to text people that I was going to kill myself over and over and had to keep deleting the message draft. I just want it to end.

I get on the chat feature so I can stay more anonymous, and now I'm in line waiting. Kind of ironic, says a lot without saying much. I already waited for five hours today at the vet hospital, whats more waiting?

Now we're talking and it's all canned responses. Nothing human at all about it. All she wants to know is if I'm going to do it or not, not how I'm feeling or what led me to this place. She asked me if I've been harming myself and I told her I'm a serial cutter but I'm trying to stop. Then she just ditched me like that, stopped responding. My own suicide hotline councilor ditched me. As if that wouldn't confirm everything I was already thinking.

I should have known better, I texted and made calls throughout highschool and was disappointed every single time. Now looking at it, it almost represents mental health institutions in general. Completely fucking clueless.

When my cat dies I don't think I'll have anything to live for anymore.
These shit hotlines have never helped me. Maybye one or two things they said in the years ive tried them. But mostly its like talking to a person with a script and no humanity.
 
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Roses_and_clouds

Member
May 28, 2023
16
So useless. I tried to use one tonight because I was feeling so suicidal. I was tempted to text people that I was going to kill myself over and over and had to keep deleting the message draft. I just want it to end.

I get on the chat feature so I can stay more anonymous, and now I'm in line waiting. Kind of ironic, says a lot without saying much. I already waited for five hours today at the vet hospital, whats more waiting?

Now we're talking and it's all canned responses. Nothing human at all about it. All she wants to know is if I'm going to do it or not, not how I'm feeling or what led me to this place. She asked me if I've been harming myself and I told her I'm a serial cutter but I'm trying to stop. Then she just ditched me like that, stopped responding. My own suicide hotline councilor ditched me. As if that wouldn't confirm everything I was already thinking.

I should have known better, I texted and made calls throughout highschool and was disappointed every single time. Now looking at it, it almost represents mental health institutions in general. Completely fucking clueless.

When my cat dies I don't think I'll have anything to live for anymore.
If you want to talk, you can dm me. Trust me, people in these forums can empathise more with you, as we too struggled with life. No one will force you to talk, no one will judge you. Not me, not anyone. And if you want someone to give advice, we can. Just be sure that, you don't get manipulated, it will be alright.

I hope you have a good life
 
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gardenofaphrodite

gardenofaphrodite

Can’t catch a break no matter what I do.
Apr 12, 2023
142
I texted one a few weeks ago, completely useless. Kept asking if I was a danger to myself at that very moment, instead of listening. I think I just vented & then dipped because they stopped responding, & I realized in that moment no one really gives a shit. I will say though, the anger from feeling like I'm not being listened to distracted me for a whole 5 minutes. Afterwards though I felt awful. That whole texting session with them, all the things I worried about & was venting about, came true too, got evicted a few days later, lost any good job opportunities, living with my crazy mom again, & she's still being… her…

I hate the hotlines, I really think they're just there to save face. They don't help people, & I have a feeling that if I were to call the number in an actual crisis, they would be very uncaring, & I know it would fuel my impulsivity & self-loathing. I've gone to therapy & my therapist couldn't even help me. The whole mental health system is a fucking mess. Where I live there's like really shitty fucking options & at this point it's just better to not try to get help- because getting help is just paying someone to tell you to 'get over it & oh here's a bunch of medications that will make you a zombie & make you feel 100x worse but you'll be so zonked & exhausted you can't even try to off yourself!'
 
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hella.physched

hella.physched

Member
May 13, 2023
36
So useless. I tried to use one tonight because I was feeling so suicidal. I was tempted to text people that I was going to kill myself over and over and had to keep deleting the message draft. I just want it to end.

I get on the chat feature so I can stay more anonymous, and now I'm in line waiting. Kind of ironic, says a lot without saying much. I already waited for five hours today at the vet hospital, whats more waiting?

Now we're talking and it's all canned responses. Nothing human at all about it. All she wants to know is if I'm going to do it or not, not how I'm feeling or what led me to this place. She asked me if I've been harming myself and I told her I'm a serial cutter but I'm trying to stop. Then she just ditched me like that, stopped responding. My own suicide hotline councilor ditched me. As if that wouldn't confirm everything I was already thinking.

I should have known better, I texted and made calls throughout highschool and was disappointed every single time. Now looking at it, it almost represents mental health institutions in general. Completely fucking clueless.

When my cat dies I don't think I'll have anything to live for anymore.
I experienced a similar situation with nycwell. But i switched to the Trevor project (also has online chat/text/call) & they are 100 tims better
Much nicer, actually seem to care… & respond really fast.
Theyll stay with you for as long as you need.
In my experience, THE BEST so far.
Note (for non US users, ull need vpn)
 
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leftdreaming

leftdreaming

I should’ve been a house cat
Apr 28, 2023
170
I have a similar story like that. I relate in a way. One time I opened up to someone about my suicidal ideation and they called a hotline. I didn't even do it. They didn't even pick up lmao
Didn't pick up for me either. Hilariously still worked as I became so exhausted crying that I fell asleep.
 
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90starve

90starve

i don’t know who i am
May 8, 2023
578
So useless. I tried to use one tonight because I was feeling so suicidal. I was tempted to text people that I was going to kill myself over and over and had to keep deleting the message draft. I just want it to end.

I get on the chat feature so I can stay more anonymous, and now I'm in line waiting. Kind of ironic, says a lot without saying much. I already waited for five hours today at the vet hospital, whats more waiting?

Now we're talking and it's all canned responses. Nothing human at all about it. All she wants to know is if I'm going to do it or not, not how I'm feeling or what led me to this place. She asked me if I've been harming myself and I told her I'm a serial cutter but I'm trying to stop. Then she just ditched me like that, stopped responding. My own suicide hotline councilor ditched me. As if that wouldn't confirm everything I was already thinking.

I should have known better, I texted and made calls throughout highschool and was disappointed every single time. Now looking at it, it almost represents mental health institutions in general. Completely fucking clueless.

When my cat dies I don't think I'll have anything to live for anymore.
i experienced this exact thing a few weeks ago during my first therapy appointment, via a phone call.

she asked me the same questions - do you intend to harm yourself, what brought you to this service, what thoughts have you had today, are you on medication, can you take care of yourself when we end this call?

i understand that institutions have a duty of care - thus are required to make inquiries like this. but it makes the entire experience cold and clinical - not a very nice environment for somebody experiencing extreme suicidal thoughts.

after my second appointment i decided not to continue with the service. i wanted to have REAL conversations with a mental health professional - but in actuality all she was doing was spitting back out everything i was saying, except she was saying it all in a more professional manner.

i think these sorts of services can be helpful to some - but in my experience, it was just months of waiting just to be let down.
 
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NoStanding

NoStanding

Do not find incentive; create it.
May 29, 2023
18
I guess it depends on who answers the phone. There are probably people who work for suicide hotlines because they have experienced the same feelings as you, or maybe have lost someone close. By the sounds of it, they have to stick to some sort of script which makes it a lot less human.

There are always other people to talk to who will understand, like other people in this forum. Most people are here because they have similar feelings.
 
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AsleepPreference160

Member
Apr 18, 2023
16
I haven't had any experiences with suicide hotlines because I always thought they're a bad idea. But based on what I've read in this thread so far, I think it's fair to say that they don't care about you, they only pretend to care about you if you want to kill yourself just so that you don't kill yourself momentarily. But yeah, if you're suffering but don't want to kill yourself, they don't give a shit about you. Unfortunately this not only applies to suicide hotlines, but a lot of other people in our lives too.

When it comes to mental services though, some people actually are helped by antidepressants and therapy. What people don't get is that there not all suicidal people are suicidal only because of depression and similar issues, and they think that everything can be solved with just antidepressants and therapy. They don't know what it's like to have permanent issues. They also don't understand it when people hate the world for logical reasons and blame it all on depression. I'm someone who hated the world at least 2 years before I was depressed.
 
AresCohere

AresCohere

Professional Insomniac
Apr 10, 2023
158
I've been tempted to call/text one but I'm guessing it's a bad idea.
 
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LittleJem

Visionary
Jul 3, 2019
2,617
I love the Samaritans in the UK. They listen and don't judge. It doesn't change my suffering but it helps me cope. I call them sometimes if I can't find the motivation to get out of bed or just ti talk about suicidal thoughts. They listen to stuff no-one else wants to hear or admit.

Mental health crisis line on the other hand: wotta lotta shit.
 
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ringo99

ringo99

Arcanist
Apr 18, 2023
424
Those hotlines are only meant for people who don't really want to ctb and just want a hopefully non-judgemental human voice to talk them out of it. Most of the people on the other side of that line are poorly paid high school grads (at least in my country) with minimal training who just read from a prepared script. Since they're govt. workers there's no way to rate their services and they get paid no matter the outcome of the call. Even if they're so terrible at their job that someone ctb while on the phone with them there's no consequences whatsoever.
 
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90starve

90starve

i don’t know who i am
May 8, 2023
578
I've been tempted to call/text one but I'm guessing it's a bad idea.
don't let anything you read on here scare you away from calling! everybody on here has had different experiences - not all of them are going to be positive, but im sure nothing bad can come from calling a suicide hotline :)
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,873
I don't understand what people are even expecting from suicide hotlines, of course they will just give uncaring empty words or pro-life platitudes, such a thing really is so useless and I've read of people recieving police visits after calling one, so it's not recommended that people call a suicide hotline unless they want to suffer even more.

The unfortunate reality is that we exist in this horrible world that punishes people simply for wanting to die, I hate what suicide hotlines stand for as it feeds into the pro-lifers delusions that wanting to die can be overcome by talking to someone which is something so invalidating of people's suffering, it's insulting to believe such a thing especially as the reality is that existence undeniably is something so hellish.
 
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counting-out-time

counting-out-time

Just “hanging around”
Oct 10, 2022
314
Sometimes i wish i could create my own suicide hotline. someone calls up and tells me there suicidal, id offer N for $10 but then again if that was the case then i wouldn't be typing this.
 
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SoftWorries

Specialist
Feb 22, 2023
334
Try ChatGPT. Suicide hotlines have made me even more suicidal. ChatGPT is better than a text or online suicide prevention chat and for me better than talking to someone on the phone.

I now have a chrome app to read text to speech and a nice New Zealand voice reads what ChatGPT says to me. It's instant instead of hours of waiting. It's so much better for me. Before I wouldn't have been able to even talk on here I was in such a bad place
 
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m4rius

m4rius

Student
Dec 23, 2022
110
I hate them too.

They keep trying to bring the police in which is only going to make things worse. It is UNBEARABLE. One thing they can't do and that's to simply provide comfort. Fucking retards.
 
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hella.physched

hella.physched

Member
May 13, 2023
36
I've been tempted to call/text one but I'm guessing it's a bad idea.
Its actually not…
I hated them after a few bad experiences
But trevor project really changed my perspective. Give them a try
Heres the link
 

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