Venting I hate myself for being German.

[why am i alive?]

I hate being german. I cannot speak my native language without this slightly feeling of hate.
I cannot tell anyone from another countty im german without this silence where we both immediatly jump to the ww. It is the first thing everyone thinks about. It is what I think about. Just the thought of one of my great grandparents having done these horrendous acts or having fought for this wrong cause makes me sick. I just feel suffocated. I feel like I will never outlive what happend 80 years ago even though I wasn't born yet. My mother wasn't born yet. But someone from my bloodline was. And that makes me as bad as the people that did it in the eyes of others. I have been called a Nazi so many times. And I can't take it. I fight against the afd (basically trump) and fight people who support Nazi's but to others I will always be a Nazi. I will never be able or allowed to be proud of my culture because for them my only culture is war.
If there are second lives then in the next I want to be of another origin and live somewhere else because being german makes me evil to other people and I don't want that.

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

I like Germany, you guys provide us with good milsurp. Flectarn is a gift to the world.

 

[GoSan1]

You shouldn't think like that though. If everyone thought this way, then the USA nuked Japan and killed so many in an instant, they would hate themselves. Japan attacked the US as well, so should they too? How about all the countries that did terrible things in the past? I never understood politics and while german myself, I would never allow myself to even be bothered by politics.

Instead of seeking pride in your country, seek it in doing things that give you it. That is something I respect.
But again, that is just my opinion, just don't be too harsh on yourself for things outside of your control.

 

[isa_nqra1]

I hate being german. I cannot speak my native language without this slightly feeling of hate.
I cannot tell anyone from another countty im german without this silence where we both immediatly jump to the ww. It is the first thing everyone thinks about. It is what I think about. Just the thought of one of my great grandparents having done these horrendous acts or having fought for this wrong cause makes me sick. I just feel suffocated. I feel like I will never outlive what happend 80 years ago even though I wasn't born yet. My mother wasn't born yet. But someone from my bloodline was. And that makes me as bad as the people that did it in the eyes of others. I have been called a Nazi so many times. And I can't take it. I fight against the afd (basically trump) and fight people who support Nazi's but to others I will always be a Nazi. I will never be able or allowed to be proud of my culture because for them my only culture is war.
If there are second lives then in the next I want to be of another origin and live somewhere else because being german makes me evil to other people and I don't want that.

people are arrogant assholes and judge u based off something you had no control over it really does suck. this damn world is just a shithole full of hate and it does suck. i really do wish for the best to you and dont be too hard on yourself

 

[cotton]

I hate being german. I cannot speak my native language without this slightly feeling of hate.
I cannot tell anyone from another countty im german without this silence where we both immediatly jump to the ww. It is the first thing everyone thinks about. It is what I think about. Just the thought of one of my great grandparents having done these horrendous acts or having fought for this wrong cause makes me sick. I just feel suffocated. I feel like I will never outlive what happend 80 years ago even though I wasn't born yet. My mother wasn't born yet. But someone from my bloodline was. And that makes me as bad as the people that did it in the eyes of others. I have been called a Nazi so many times. And I can't take it. I fight against the afd (basically trump) and fight people who support Nazi's but to others I will always be a Nazi. I will never be able or allowed to be proud of my culture because for them my only culture is war.
If there are second lives then in the next I want to be of another origin and live somewhere else because being german makes me evil to other people and I don't want that.

Well I don't think anyone German is a Nazi, unless they identify that way. I don't think anyone is a Nazi, unless they identify that way. I think, people assuming instantly Germans have an affiliation is either bullying, mocking or ignorant and uneducated. I think German culture is a proud culture and a good one. Like Nazis, many nations have been in wars and have done awful things, no matter the reason. All countries have this and saying you are a Nazi is like saying someone from middle east is terrorist. You are not to blame for what others have done. And people who had to fight years ago were forced to, or shot, to never see their families again. What a small group of people did is not your fault.


I understand people can be horrible. But I would never judge you this way, in case you were in fear that all people think this way of you. As I do not. I never would.

But I understand. You are right. People who talk about ww or make assumptions makes you feel bad and we understand it's wrong.

That must be so difficult, to be always reminded.


Can you find a way to forget?

Peace - cotton

 

[3xhilarati0n]

Hi. A little reminder. Your nationality does not make you intrinsically responsible for every action of every person of your nationality ever. Anyone who thinks that being born in a certain country makes you a certain way is ignorant and stupid, and I'm sincerely sorry that you've had to deal with people like that.

My country has a history of being invaded by Germany. I like German people. I don't immediately think of the war when I talk to them, I think of the time one of my German friends gifted me a T-shirt of my favourite band and I smile.

Honestly, I don't know what else I could tell you, except that you shouldn't blame yourself for things you have no control over and weren't even here for.

 

[cali22♡]

I like it here and i love it to be german...

There is nothing bad to be german...

or to feel ashamed to be german


take care
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Hi. A little reminder. Your nationality does not make you intrinsically responsible for every action of every person of your nationality ever. Anyone who thinks that being born in a certain country makes you a certain way is ignorant and stupid, and I'm sincerely sorry that you've had to deal with people like that.

My country has a history of being invaded by Germany. I like German people. I don't immediately think of the war when I talk to them, I think of the time one of my German friends gifted me a T-shirt of my favourite band and I smile.

Honestly, I don't know what else I could tell you, except that you shouldn't blame yourself for things you have no control over and weren't even here for.

Yeah fr

 

[L'absent]

I understand your distress regarding Germany's history, but if we really want to understand the genesis of everything that happened, we also need to look at the role the United States played. Without the intervention of the USA, Germany would never have been able to recover after World War I. The Dawes Plan, which restructured Germany's debts and provided loans, actually gave new life to a destroyed economy, and contributed to the stabilization period that created fertile ground for the rise of extremist ideologies like Nazism.
Had France been listened to, and Germany had been truly disbanded and reduced to a state of permanent misery, it would not have been able to recover and set the stage for the rise of Nazism. But the United States, through their economic policies, made a recovery possible that allowed a failed painter and his dangerous ideas to gain traction.
Moreover, we cannot ignore the influence of racist ideologies, such as those promoted by the Ku Klux Klan in the United States, which had an impact on similar movements in Europe. Ideas of racial supremacy and hatred toward minorities unfortunately spread globally. The United States not only helped revive Germany, but with their example of racism and intolerance, they also fueled the hatred that would later turn into Nazism.
There's another important aspect to consider: with this intervention, the United States not only facilitated Germany's recovery but also marked the end of European global dominance, which had lasted for centuries. France and Great Britain, despite winning the war, were now weakened and incapable of fully recovering from the devastating costs of the conflict. This opened the door for the United States to emerge as a new global economic power, while the Soviet Union, with its communist ideology, was rising as an alternative superpower.
Thus, the United States not only made Germany's economic recovery possible but also accelerated the decline of European hegemony, shifting the global center of power first toward them and then toward Russia. This shift had enormous effects on geopolitical balances, leading to a new global division that would define the Cold War and reshape the world order for the rest of the century.
In short, without the intervention of the United States, Germany would likely have been doomed to permanent misery, and without its economic recovery, it is hard to imagine how a regime like Nazism could have gained so much power. Therefore, the USA not only fueled the growth of an extremist movement but also contributed to the decline of European hegemony, accelerating the emergence of a new world order that saw the rise of the two superpowers of the 20th century.
However, this does not diminish the grave responsibility in the human slaughter of millions of people that occurred during that period. I have visited all the concentration and extermination camps, and I can say with certainty that they are truly the symbol of human madness.

 

[nails]

damn near every country has done some abysmal shit. one of Nazi Germany's allies, Imperial Japan, has committed the most deplorable acts mankid has ever documented, but people still use the Rising Sun flag (essentially just a swastika) for aesthetics and treat Japan like a wholesome place that can do no wrong. (look into Unit 731 and the Rape of Nanjing if you wanna puke... or if you need more reasons to despise humanity. )

i'm only using Japan as an example because it seemed most appropriate (same war), and because they've committed what i consider to be the worst atrocities in history; but this point extends to so many countries.
Italy was once part of the Axis powers, too. they've also done horrible shit outside of WWII. i don't think i need to explain why the US and China are deplorable countries, lol. the list horrors they commit and endorse just continues to grow every day. Canada, France, Serbia, etc. all have long lists of atrocious war crimes. Look into almost any country and you'll see a depressing history filled with hatred and massacres.
Not to mention the current genocides/massacres being committed by Israel, Russia, Syria, etc.

my point is, you have no reason to feel like shit just because your country has a terrible history. there aren't many countries who should feel good about themselves.
if someone is being shitty to you for being German, then I hope they treat every other country with the same energy. if they don't, they're a fucking idiot whose knowledge of history probably starts and ends with whatever they learned in high school. ignorant people shouldn't affect how you feel about yourself, they're worthless.
as long as you're strong in your morals, nothing else matters.

 

[Young]

A matter of perspective. I would kill to be German, and to live in Germany. You shouldn't feel responsible just because a potential, unknown ancestor (completely different person), probably did some bad things. If that's the case I should be prosecuted because I'm white. So where do you draw the line? Families change at some point, it's a law.

I get the whole ww thing, people love to joke about Germany and the funny Austrian moustache guy, which sucks. But don't let your mind consume you over these type of brainrot comments.

 

[escape_from_hell]

There is an obsession with WW2 and everything in the world to this very day is reduced to "nazi vs commie" and everything down to what food item you choose each day is now a left or right wing dietary choice.

Trying to take any middle ground or avoiding taking a position on issues one is not familiar with will simply do the following: you are automatically the 'other side' to the person doing the judging (everyone). So if they are right-oriented you are lefty and if they gravitate left you are righty and any explaining yourself is just a guilty nazi/commie trying to lie your way out of it. In the United States for example, you are either a Biden/Harris or Trump supporter and if for example you don't vote and admit it (the correct answer is: you always vote and you must always say you voted for whomever you are chatting with voted or else you might face petty or even life-threatening backlash), then you will be blamed for the election outcomes they didn't like over their lifetime and hated even more than someone who voted for their version of evil.

As a German what chance do you have really there are decades upon decades of books and movies where it's pretty simple: the evil person is the one speaking German.

Other people cannot be expected to be smarter than the last netflix movie they saw. It's just that simple. You sound or look vaguely like the bad guy in the movie therefore you are all of the things in the movie or blog and must be held accountable. The evil is ingrained in the souls of anyone making vaguely germanic sounds.

Nevermind that any of the events being considered are generations ago. The movies that tell everyone about bad stuff and identify the baddies are all recent. I'm not saying the Germans didn't do bad stuff in real history, but that's besides the point. It's the current mindset that you are judged by which is shaped by the world of art and media and human discussion and perception.

It's so strong that you feel guilty at merely being alive and probably your body and mind are flagging it because it's true. There are probably tons of people that judge you as a nazi because that's the maximum extent of their thinking capability. And you are rightfully anxious about that because these people might torture and kill you out of a misguided sense of justice because a bad guy on TV had a german accent. What is the solution basically just pretend you aren't German if you aren't in Germany and pretend you're a foreigner even in Germany so you can pretend to have some kind of moral highground. Otherwise you risk violence. In USA now you gotta try and get a vibe for what political side someone is on and eagerly reaffirm their talking points otherwise they might violently assault you for social media cred for hurting the villain and saving the day.

 

[L'absent]

The reason why the boy feels guilty is due to a sense of historical responsibility, which is unfortunately not uncommon among those from a country that played a crucial role in traumatic events like World War II. In Germany, this feeling of guilt can stem from the awareness that many Germans, at various levels, actively or passively collaborated with the Nazi regime. During the Nazi period, much of the population participated directly or indirectly, through support for racist policies, adherence to the ideology, and silence or indifference toward the atrocities being committed.
Unlike other countries that were occupied or forced to fight against Nazism, in Germany, there was strong ideological adherence from a large portion of the population, and the Nazi war machine was fueled by popular consent, not just by the violence of the regime. This makes the guilt harder to shake off for some Germans, who feel directly connected to those events, even if they weren't personally involved.
Germany, therefore, carries a collective responsibility that is difficult to process. This doesn't mean that every German is guilty of the regime's atrocities, but the awareness of their nation's involvement in those atrocities can create a strong sense of guilt, especially for younger generations who, despite not having lived through that era, are still linked by a thread of historical responsibility. The boy who feels guilty may see his national identity as inherently tied to the tragedy of Nazism, even if this doesn't reflect his own actions.
This feeling of guilt can also stem from the desire to atone, to recognize and condemn what happened, and to ensure that it doesn't happen again. Germany has made enormous strides in acknowledging and condemning what occurred, but the path of historical memory is still a deep and complex issue, which at times may lead to the sensation that guilt is something hard to overcome.

 

[dyingslowly]

I hate being german. I cannot speak my native language without this slightly feeling of hate.
I cannot tell anyone from another countty im german without this silence where we both immediatly jump to the ww. It is the first thing everyone thinks about. It is what I think about. Just the thought of one of my great grandparents having done these horrendous acts or having fought for this wrong cause makes me sick. I just feel suffocated. I feel like I will never outlive what happend 80 years ago even though I wasn't born yet. My mother wasn't born yet. But someone from my bloodline was. And that makes me as bad as the people that did it in the eyes of others. I have been called a Nazi so many times. And I can't take it. I fight against the afd (basically trump) and fight people who support Nazi's but to others I will always be a Nazi. I will never be able or allowed to be proud of my culture because for them my only culture is war.
If there are second lives then in the next I want to be of another origin and live somewhere else because being german makes me evil to other people and I don't want that.

I get called a terrorist and a creep, there is no group on this planet that hasn't done some weird ass sht in the history. Most people might give you hate for being German out of ignorance, there was many people in the Nazi army who thought just like you, it was not their choice to do what they did, the whole country was at war. Victors in the war became the "good" guys and many who were colonizers and eliminated natives like animals all across the world became gold standard of morality. Don't let it get to your head, but I am telling u you will always be called a "nazi" and I will always be seen as a "terrorist" (I didn't fire a single bullet in my life tho) this exposes the basic things wrong with human beings, they most of the time are not thinking rationally or critically and best way to deal with them is to ignore them.

 

[Kanoh]

For me it's simple. You weren't alive then and had nothing to do with it and that's really it. Also I believe majority of people will think that way. I'm Polish and even though our countries have some really bad history, i never have this association of today's Germans with WW2. You hold zero accountability for what happened as a normal citizen. If anything, it's up to governments to work with other governments regarding history.

 

[ForgottenAgain]

If we would take on the blame for generations past, then everyone in the planet has a heavy burden to bear. You're not to blame for what people in your country did, even if they are in your bloodline. My grandfather was sexually attracted to children and that shit has nothing to do with me and never will, same for the crimes committed by my ancestors.
I do understand the feeling you share to same extent though. In the past, I was discriminated against for being from where I'm from, because my country was an avid colonizer. This person said I didn't deserve to live, that I was just "white shit", evil incarnate to hurt others. The reality is, that that person was picking up problems from generations past and pretending like she lived through that when she didn't. Her life was actually very similar to mine, just a regular 1st world country life.
Some people want to be victims at all costs and prefer to to put the blame on others rather than acknowledging their own shortcomings.

I'm really sorry you feel this much hatred towards yourself and disgust...I can only imagine the amount of discrimination and hate that you've endured that you got to this point... I know my words won't drown the noise from what others have said to you, but I can make an attempt: please don't put this weight on yourself, none of that is your fault. You are your own person, you are not your ancestors. What they did has nothing to do with you, Nazi Germany is not modern Germany. Please don't let horrible people, literal scum of the earth if they treated you like that, manipulate your heart and your mind like that. You are yourself, no one else. You are only responsible for your own actions. To hell with everyone that told you those horrible things, you sincerely don't deserve it.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

I hate being german. I cannot speak my native language without this slightly feeling of hate.
I cannot tell anyone from another countty im german without this silence where we both immediatly jump to the ww. It is the first thing everyone thinks about. It is what I think about. Just the thought of one of my great grandparents having done these horrendous acts or having fought for this wrong cause makes me sick. I just feel suffocated. I feel like I will never outlive what happend 80 years ago even though I wasn't born yet. My mother wasn't born yet. But someone from my bloodline was. And that makes me as bad as the people that did it in the eyes of others. I have been called a Nazi so many times. And I can't take it. I fight against the afd (basically trump) and fight people who support Nazi's but to others I will always be a Nazi. I will never be able or allowed to be proud of my culture because for them my only culture is war.
If there are second lives then in the next I want to be of another origin and live somewhere else because being german makes me evil to other people and I don't want that.

What a post! You unfortunately live in an enemy-occupied country and you have been brainwashed with their hateful lies for your entire life!

 

[dexdbxtchthewxtch]

Hi there, I just want you to know you are not a Nazi! And those who perceived you as such are likely a very few close minded individuals.
I cannot speak from experience, and I don't want to take away from your pain. I am so sorry you go through this.
I think in some way a lot of folk go through the negative associations with their ethnicities. I am largely Russian and find it hard to have any pride in it given the war on Ukraine. I know of people who are English and Spanish who battle colonization in their bloodlines. A few Caucasians still battle with their associations with slavery.
I think this stems from WWII being a relatively recent major world historical event. It speaks upon the character of the people who associate the German people with Nazi's, not the poor innocent German folk who are just trying to live day by day. 1945 was 80 years ago; we are 3-4 generations past this and it is heartbreaking to hear you still suffering for the sins of your fathers.

 

[Nortu]

From my perspective (as someone from one of the invaded countries) the fault lies not with anyone who came after. Sure history makes it dificult for those who came before me. Being from the same heritage if directly or not doesnt mean you`re part of it, being a nazi hold certain beliefs not biological ones. I do enjoy a lot of german heritage cause its interesting.
I hope you dont truly hold heritage as a defining feature of you if it doesnt apply to the beliefs you hold :]
You`re worthy as much as anyone no matter what <3

 

[Endofpain]

What a post! You unfortunately live in an enemy-occupied country and you have been brainwashed with their hateful lies for your entire life!

Couldn't agree more. In some time in the future Hitler will be looked up upon just like Napoleon. Remember Napoleon was referred to as "the monster" by all of Europe during his reign.

 

[CogitoMori]

I can kind of understand. I'm American, but I'm white and have German ancestors as well as slave owning ancestors. My family came over before the world wars, but lived in the US during them and were heavily discriminated against if they did anything that seemed "unamerican". It turns out that, though not through direct lineage, I'm related to 2 of Hitler's highest ranking officers. It's hard to think of how you can make up for a past that you yourself didn't contribute to, but are still associated with in the eyes of society.

 

[Greyhawk]

The irony of someone calling you a nazi just because of your nationality is hilarious... Germany is completely different country and has taken full accountability of it's crimes unlike Japan and Russia for example. Pretty much everyone has ancestors who have done extremely evil things. They also have amazing beer.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

I like Germany, you guys provide us with good milsurp. Flectarn is a gift to the world.

It was feldgrau not flecktarn.

 

[neverself]

When I think of Germany, I think of a very advanced country. Amazing infrastructure, society, healthcare, progressiveness, art, music. It is incredibly stupid of people to relegate such a small part of history to be the entire representation of a nation.

If I could be restart my whole life in another country, Germany would probably be one of the highest ones on my list.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Mao Zedong caused about 75 million deaths, Stalin is responsible for 50 million deaths and Hitler only for 20 million deaths. Fascists and national sozialists are nice guys compared to communists.
I am not sure wheather this assessment is correct in a forum were being alive is considerd worse than being dead.

 

[neverself]

Mao Zedong caused about 75 million deaths, Stalin is responsible for 50 million deaths and Hitler only for 20 million deaths. Fascists and national sozialists are nice guys compared to communists.
I am not sure wheather this assessment is correct in a forum were being alive is considerd worse than being dead.

Most of those people would have probably wanted to live if they were given the choice to.

Those deaths were murder, often excruciating or unjust, without the consent of the victims.

 

[OptingOutSmiling]

Nobody should be judged based on nationality and you are not responsible for the actions of your ancestors. Anyone who fails to see a person for who they are as an individual, continue and contribute to make the world a hateful place. We are born randomly into this world, with no control over the country or who our parents are. I'm sorry that you have to deal with the narrow mindedness of most humans.

 

[Forveleth]

But you are not your bloodline. You are not your country's history. You are you. It does not matter what dead people who happened to be born on the same piece of land as you have done. It matters only what you do. I know a few Germans and I have literally never associated them with Nazis or WWII. I do not currently associate Germany with Nazis or WWII. I am in America and, quite frankly, I think we have more Nazis than you at this point.

You need to get some help for this. You are beating yourself up over how you were born, which is something you can not control.

Also, if you really hate it there I would be happy to trade! I would LOVE to be German right now.

 

[Autumn_Stars]

Just lie and say you're Austrian.

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

It was feldgrau not flecktarn.

One is the specific grey colour the angry windmill of friendship people wore, the other is the modern-ish camo pattern that's very well liked among us milsurp fans lol

 

[avalonisburning]

If someone's first instinct is to jump to thinking about Nazis when exposed to German culture, then they're ignorant and, put bluntly, weird. Those opinions shouldn't hold any weight to you. For all of its flaws, and in spite of the upsetting history, Germany is a beacon of social democracy, progress, and human rights - about as far removed from nazism as you can get - not just in Europe, but across the world.

It's important to remember your history to ensure the mistakes of the past won't be repeated, but don't flagellate yourself over events that happened long before your time. The fact that you see that period as indefensible and disgusting should be enough to tell you where you stand morally. Instead of feeling shame for the past, try to feel pride about how far your people have come since then.

You and the rest of Germany will take those AfD clowns down. I have faith in you.