I hate my life. I wish angels and god were real

[Braindead Atheist]

https://therokuchannel.roku.com/watch/60c48786b0ac5a4989cef970e9ab7f31


If only god existed...then things would be different. I'd be taken care of...I wouldn't be retarded and there would be something for me in this world. I'd feel comfort and peace. but I don't. nada. nothing but stress and the sting of other people ditching me. I wish I were dying and had an experience like the boy in this movie. but no...

I'm not sure people are even worth saying goodbye to at this point. I just want to go...

 

[Snake of Eden]

They could exist but the fact is the world is a domain of chaos and maybe thats what it was intended for it. Good and bad happen to everybody but not in a fair distribution. I relate to your pain and hopelessness. If they exist I wish oneday that we would be compensated for our suffering in life. Maybe then it will all be worth it

 

[phoenixx]

I believe they exist, it's the one thing that comforts me and makes me less afraid of death. Even if I'm wrong, it doesn't matter. I'll be dead.

 

[Braindead Atheist]

They could exist but the fact is the world is a domain of chaos and maybe thats what it was intended for it. Good and bad happen to everybody but not in a fair distribution. I relate to your pain and hopelessness. If they exist I wish oneday that we would be compensated for our suffering in life. Maybe then it will all be worth it

No I know for a fact that they don't exist. But yeah, I get what you're saying

 

[phoenixx]

No I know for a fact that they don't exist. But yeah, I get what you're saying

Yeah, they probably don't but you know, death scares me and I just think even if I'm lying to myself, it's for comfort you know? Like I tell myself once I die, I'll be reunited with my loved ones on the other side etc. Even though I know it probably isn't going to work like that, I just tell myself this anyway because it makes me fear death a little less

 

[Braindead Atheist]

I believe they exist, it's the one thing that comforts me and makes me less afraid of death. Even if I'm wrong, it doesn't matter. I'll be dead.

If it works for you then I guess you can believe what you want but I just don't want you to be disappointed when you find out that they don't exist

 

[phoenixx]

Yeah, I know. I totally respect your opinions. No matter what happens, as long as I'm not suffering anymore, I'm not too bothered what happens after I'm gone as long as I'm at peace

 

[StevieNixs]

I believe they exist, it's the one thing that comforts me and makes me less afraid of death. Even if I'm wrong, it doesn't matter. I'll be dead.

I never believed anything existed after death - not anymore. I was a stone cold atheist - then became agnostic. Nope. I'm not religious, but I 100/% believe there is a state of being after death and there are spirits to guide you along your way - my own recent experiences, alongside those of my mother and niece confirm this. Even when these things were going on, I used my logic to try to work out what was happening, then everything became illogical. The things that were happening could not be explained via reason. So I conceded there was something that happened after death. Never thought I'd ever believe this tbh.
BTW I am not speaking about the idea of a God.

 

[Deleted member 8975]

This is assuming the God is kind and merciful.

 

[Lost Magic]

I don't know about God and angels but there is a fair chance that consciousness does survive death. There are countless life after death experiences and certain substances like DMT could be a glimpse into the unknown.

 

[Snake of Eden]

No I know for a fact that they don't exist. But yeah, I get what you're saying

I dont agree that anyone could know for certain if they exist or not. To me saying that you know for a fact they dont exist would require you a solid proof of evidence which indisputable. Im not talking about refuting religious dogma here and its ideas. I am saying even without religions, can we know for a fact that there is no creator for the universe who is all knowing, all prevading all powerful. I think of video games as an example, if we created managed to create a consciousness equivalent to ours within a video game character, wouldnt it wonder if it had a maker? Video game creation takes alot of percision and skill at programming yet a video game is a much simpler logical construct than the world yet it would be absurd to say a video game was generated by a random algorithm that just spits code and created this well fit and intractable world and characters. But we can extend the same courtesy to the world we live in, we cant say that it is too good to be true. The world is chaotic but has so much evidence of intelligence with it and intent. I dont know just my two cents

 

[Braindead Atheist]

I never believed anything existed after death - not anymore. I was a stone cold atheist - then became agnostic. Nope. I'm not religious, but I 100/% believe there is a state of being after death and there are spirits to guide you along your way - my own recent experiences, alongside those of my mother and niece confirm this. Even when these things were going on, I used my logic to try to work out what was happening, then everything became illogical. The things that were happening could not be explained via reason. So I conceded there was something that happened after death. Never thought I'd ever believe this tbh.
BTW I am not speaking about the idea of a God.

That's a somewhat reasonable approach but 9/10 of revives said they had no experience. It was like a dreamless sleep

 

[StevieNixs]

That's a somewhat reasonable approach but 9/10 of revives said they had no experience. It was like a dreamless sleep

No I'm not talking about NDE's - (near death experiences). I'm talking about post death experiences when you're dead and buried...or cremated.

 

[Snake of Eden]

No I'm not talking about NDE's - (near death experiences). I'm talking about post death experiences when you're dead and buried...or cremated.

How does one report experiences when they are truly dead?

 

[All Things Must Pass]

How does one report experiences when they are truly dead?

NEAR death experience.

 

[Snake of Eden]

NEAR death experience.

He said he is not talking about NDEs but post death experiences. I dont quite understand

 

[FuneralCry]

I don't personally wish they were real. I find it comforting that there is nothing and I am looking forward to returning to the same nothingness where I was at before I was born. We only exist for evolutionary purposes anyway. It is all so pointless.

 

[Amumu]

He said he is not talking about NDEs but post death experiences. I dont quite understand

Me neither. It doesn't matter, human beings are biologically programmed to be superstitious. I find it funny somehow.

 

[Makko]

God obviously exists but the problem is that he's a boomer who wants us to pull ourselves up to heaven by our bootstraps.

 

[Braindead Atheist]

I don't know about God and angels but there is a fair chance that consciousness does survive death. There are countless life after death experiences and certain substances like DMT could be a glimpse into the unknown.

Its just your limbic system. Look up the persinger helmet.

 

[restforeternity]

If you have an open mind, they may just be real.

 

[Braindead Atheist]

If you have an open mind, they may just be real.

i mean a hallucination maybe

 

[restforeternity]

i mean a hallucination maybe

Maybe the universe is allowing entities to keep you company in the fifth dimension.

 

[Braindead Atheist]

No I'm not talking about NDE's - (near death experiences). I'm talking about post death experiences when you're dead and buried...or cremated.

Why would that be any different?!

NEAR death experience.

They get revived?! 9/1o of those who get revived report nothing so why would it be any different if they had stayed dead? There really is nothing. I swear on it.

 

[Amumu]

Why would that be any different?!

They get revived?! 9/1o of those who get revived report nothing so why would it be any different if they had stayed dead? There really is nothing. I swear on it.

NDEs are incredibly biased because they don't mention people who don't have NDEs. Basically 99.9999% of people.
So if only 0.0001% of people have NDEs, I'm likely to think they are made by the brains.

I don't even know if people behind these websites/books believe in what they say or want to brainwash people to make money.

 

[StevieNixs]

Why would that be any different?!

They get revived?! 9/1o of those who get revived report nothing so why would it be any different if they had stayed dead? There really is nothing. I swear on it.

I think you have all got me wrong. I am not speaking about people who have been revived and report on seeing a light or whatever they see, I am talking about people who die and then communicate after death in a spirit form (not talking about God) see my previous post - my long post towards the bottom of this thread

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...e-classed-as-agnostic-but.71860/#post-1305207

Things still continue to happen which I cannot explain via any rational means and I am generally a logical person uninterested in this sort of thing.

How does one report experiences when they are truly dead?

I am not speaking about people reporting on their experienced when they are truly dead. I am talking about people communicating that they are still present after death. See my previous post

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...e-classed-as-agnostic-but.71860/#post-1305207

He said he is not talking about NDEs but post death experiences. I dont quite understand

I think you have all got me wrong. I am not speaking about people who have been revived and report on seeing a light or whatever they see, I am talking about people who die and then communicate after death in a spirit form (not talking about God)

I don't personally wish they were real. I find it comforting that there is nothing and I am looking forward to returning to the same nothingness where I was at before I was born. We only exist for evolutionary purposes anyway. It is all so pointless.

I used to think there was nothing. Not anymore.

 

[Braindead Atheist]

NDEs are incredibly biased because they don't mention people who don't have NDEs. Basically 99.9999% of people.
So if only 0.0001% of people have NDEs, I'm likely to think they are made by the brains.

I don't even know if people behind these websites/books believe in what they say or want to brainwash people to make money.

look up the persinger helmet and it will show you that the whole god experience is just your left amygdala

 

[Amumu]

look up the persinger helmet and it will show you that the whole god experience is just your left amygdala

Seems accurate. But I'm afraid people will be saddened by this discovery, *so keep it a secret.*

 

[yellothere]

I don't personally wish they were real. I find it comforting that there is nothing and I am looking forward to returning to the same nothingness where I was at before I was born. We only exist for evolutionary purposes anyway. It is all so pointless

makes me fucking depressed. I
Would take any afterlife no matter how bad. At least then you know eventually you may exist in peace.

I hate the idea of oblivion. I console myself by saying that consciousness is separate. And that it must exist separate from matter. If I don't exist separate from my brain, then I believe the building locks of matter have consciousness. At least parts of my experience will exist.

 

[OpheliasFlowers]

I never believed anything existed after death - not anymore. I was a stone cold atheist - then became agnostic. Nope. I'm not religious, but I 100/% believe there is a state of being after death and there are spirits to guide you along your way - my own recent experiences, alongside those of my mother and niece confirm this. Even when these things were going on, I used my logic to try to work out what was happening, then everything became illogical. The things that were happening could not be explained via reason. So I conceded there was something that happened after death. Never thought I'd ever believe this tbh.
BTW I am not speaking about the idea of a God.

Because of experiences my mother had in the months before her death (she was VERY ill), and an experience I had within hours of her passing, I agree with you. I'm not sure about the existence of God -- it's so confusing for me. I 'believe', yet I'm doubtful. I know that makes NO logical sense -- but I definitely believe there is, like you said, some kind of state of being after death. One's energy transforms, it has to go SOMEWHERE.

I respect all people's beliefs and theories and this is simply what I think based on my own personal experiences and those of my mother.