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butterfly3

butterfly3

Student
Apr 2, 2022
119
I haven't been told this personally, but I've seen people who have been told this. It's annoying because just because someone's scared doesn't mean they dont really wanna do it. For example maybe they're scared of the attempt failing and them being in a worse off situation than before. Or the idea that religion puts in peoples head of hell and all that. Personally I don't think I'm afraid to attempt, I just don't have the resources to do it. But I sympathise with suicidal people who are afraid. Just because they're afraid or holding it off it doesn't make their experience and suicidal thoughts any less valid imo
 
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GentleJerk

GentleJerk

Carrot juice pimp.
Dec 14, 2021
1,372
What do they want, proof? That's just sick!
 
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DynamicDepression

Deranged
Mar 28, 2022
352
I can't take people who say that seriously. That whole attitude pisses me off and it's scary how it's the norm rather than the exception.
 
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MicropBaldCurrycel

Specialist
Dec 29, 2021
314
It's only natural to be afraid of death as we all have inbuilt survival instinct , im sure even those who did it were very afraid but because many people are so depressed and disturbed there need for ending the pain can be stronger than their survival instinct and they go through with it anyway, ive often felt that way. like if only i had a gun or a method with me i think id be long gone but it doesnt mean im not afraid of death. Its only human, even now im suicidal but i still get afraid of heights or being in an accident or being murdered etc. So the people who say this are wrong because their logic and reasoning is flawed.
 
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butterfly🦋

Student
May 11, 2022
194
I haven't been told this personally, but I've seen people who have been told this. It's annoying because just because someone's scared doesn't mean they dont really wanna do it. For example maybe they're scared of the attempt failing and them being in a worse off situation than before. Or the idea that religion puts in peoples head of hell and all that. Personally I don't think I'm afraid to attempt, I just don't have the resources to do it. But I sympathise with suicidal people who are afraid. Just because they're afraid or holding it off it doesn't make their experience and suicidal thoughts any less valid imo
I agree. I know I don't want to attempt and then fail. I think that's my fear. If I knew it would be quick, painless and peaceful I'd probably be able to set a date and go through with it sooner rather than later.
 
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its-about-time

its-about-time

nope
Mar 19, 2022
807
I'm not afraid of death, but I am very afraid of making the "wrong" decision.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,615
People who say things like that should be ignored, I feel like someone who would say something like that is likely to be a non suicidal person who has never even planned or researched ctb before so they have no idea how difficult it really is. They do not understand.

It really is so hard to leave this world and if it was easier to leave I would already be gone. We live in a world where society denies us the option of a peaceful exit and we have to resort to risky methods to end our pain. The fear of failure is the main thing that holds me back from ctb personally. All that I want is to peacefully pass away in my sleep without having to go through the process of planning ctb.
 
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Fadeawaaaay

Fadeawaaaay

Visionary
Nov 12, 2021
2,160
There's a huge difference between wanting to not be alive and actually going through the steps of making that happen.
 
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Lost in a Dream

Lost in a Dream

He/him - Metal head
Feb 22, 2020
1,804
Usually when people say that, it's just a "got'cha" type of comment to make themselves feel correct and superior, just so they can pat themselves on the back for it.

I think the reality is, it's very complicated. There probably are people who do want to live, but feel so trapped in whatever they're going through that suicide just feels like an inescapable ending for them, but they're probably a minority around here. I know for me, I spend every day wishing I didn't exist or that I could go through with suicide. The idea of Hell is an idea that scares me too, because I was taught that it was real while I was growing up.

It would be nice to have 100% certainty that death is the end of my existence. That would make things much easier.
 
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Low_Spectre

Member
Jan 20, 2021
5
I feel like the only kind of person who says this is someone unable to reconcile their own desire to not exist with their fear of dying. (I am a person unable to reconcile these things but I don't project it onto others, I just hope for a future where one of two makes any sense.)
 
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NobodyKnowsMe

NobodyKnowsMe

Just biding my time
Dec 21, 2021
582
I think that many of the people that say that are totally clueless about any aspect of being suicidal - and are uncomfortable talking about the subject. Thus the statement is a method of shutting down conversation about the topic.
 
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MellowAvenue

MellowAvenue

👻
Nov 5, 2020
658
It's really not great logic and I'm sure it's often said with the intent to hurt or discredit someone but I think it may also be a person's attempt to tell themselves that their friend or loved one isn't actually suicidal.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,378
I see it as more encouraging than not. Great to know that one solution to stop being cowardly is to just commit suicide.
 
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Lullaby

Lullaby

🌙
Mar 9, 2022
682
I've seen some people say similar things like on here as well.

Choosing to take your life is the hardest decision you can ever make. People have so many different reasons as to why they can't. It's just not easy.

I just tune these people out. At the end of the day, only you know what's best for you and you know your feelings better than anyone.
 
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outrider567

Visionary
Apr 5, 2022
2,826
I agree. I know I don't want to attempt and then fail. I think that's my fear. If I knew it would be quick, painless and peaceful I'd probably be able to set a date and go through with it sooner rather than later.
Nitrogen is my method of a quick painless and peaceful CTB---After my brother's demise from lung cancer in a few months, it'll be my turn soon after--But there will be no setting of a date,it will just happen one of these nights----Truthfully, I'd like to go right now, had a bad week from a lot of crying jags that were triggered by many things that reminded me that's she's not here anymore
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
11,740
Think most of us have fear/anxiety around things we haven't tried before and I agree- what could have higher stakes than attempting to kill yourself?!! Surely there are more unknowns to this than anything life could throw up.

Regardless of what might come after death, the consequences of failing an attempt are dire- possible long term physical damage and the likelihood of being sectioned.

It pisses me off too. I agree- it is a way of dismissing a person as weak- just what you need when you're feeling like shit anyway...
 
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Ta555

Enlightened
Aug 31, 2021
1,317
Yeah there's plenty of people on this forum that will do that shit. I say I'm scared of brain damage and I get the 'maybe that means you're not ready and you want to live.' Nah fam, maybe I'm just scared of ending up paralysed or mentally retarded which would be worse than death. Duck me. 🦆
 
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SentencedToLife

SentencedToLife

I’m so tired of being here..
May 11, 2022
16
It also depends what someone considers "suicidal" to mean. People have different understandings of the word and different experiences that influence their beliefs or, in many cases, naive assumptions. If someone dreams about and longs to commit suicide and thinks about it and plans for it every day, are they only suicidal once they attempt? Are they less suicidal than someone who has one random thought and spontaneously attempts, with or without the intention of actually committing suicide? What if they know they're not quite ready but know they want to do it at some point? As many have expressed, there are a lot of reasonable explanations for fear, including unavoidable biological forces. Imo, you can be suicidal even if you don't know if you'll ever do it.

Some people just feel the need to put others in boxes or assign labels either for their own security, because they need to contextualize what they don't understand/can't handle, out of pure ignorance or for many other reasons, some of which are ultimately selfish. But it says so much more about the person who makes the comment than the person who may be scared or hesitant to attempt.

Another one of my "favorites" is that a failed attempt is "just a cry for help." It's maddening on so many levels. A genuinely great person whom I deeply respect once said that to me (not about me), and I was blown away; it has bothered me for years, though it likely was just a thougtless remark, however off-base. I think perhaps people make blanket statements that are based on specific experiences or individual data points, so to speak, not recognizing that it's completely inappropriate and unreasonable to assign such judgments on a broader scale. Unfortunately, a lot of people make comments for the wrong reasons, even if their intentions are not malicious in nature. It is a shame because these declarations are entirely unnecessary and so hurtful.

To anyone who has been the recipient of such comments, I am sorry. They are unwarranted, misguided and unfair, to say the least. You are not alone, and no one else's distinction or classification is more relevant or important than how you feel.
 
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braindead911

braindead911

Member
May 14, 2022
30
Really crazy because it's pure cognitive dissonance. If they had to do it themselves then they would understand how hard it is to get over SI.
 
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