Discussion I finally understand how "normies" get through life

[Haibane-renmei-reki]

not to say that "normies" have no problems or can't be suicidal (further from the truth) but they have something i don't have which is basically social and family relations, they can have a bad day and then have a converstion with a friend or a family member and re-charche (not generalizing here, i know having friends and a good relationship with your family is not always helpful) but it has been proven that social interaction does lower your Cortisol levels (stress hormones)

I asked this to an A.I chatbot and i shall copy-paste:
"Yes, social interaction can lower cortisol levels, which are stress hormones. Positive social interactions, particularly those involving physical touch and support, can trigger the release of hormones like oxytocin and dopamine, which have stress-reducing effects. These hormones can help reduce feelings of anxiety and stress, leading to lower cortisol levels."

some sources:

Effects of different kinds of couple interaction on cortisol and heart rate responses to stress in women

In animal studies, positive social interaction and physical contact play a preeminent role in the control of behavioral and neuroendocrine responses t…

www.sciencedirect.com

https://www.soz.psy.unibe.ch/about_us/personen/thomas_baumgartner/e66124/files66139/Heinrichs_Baumgartner_BiologicalPsychiatry_2003.pdf

it's something beyond me as someone who never had friends I.R.L before nor ever had a good relationship with his family members, i can only imagine how better having good social bounds can enhance your life and make getting through the hardships easier, we're social animals that meant to be hunting in groups, we're not Snakes, that's an actual solitary animal that does not mind isolation and is meant to thrive in it.

 

[derekWest]

not to say that "normies" have no problems or can't be suicidal (further from the truth) but they have something i don't have which is basically social and family relations, they can have a bad day and then have a converstion with a friend or a family member and re-charche (not generalizing here, i know having friends and a good relationship with your family is not always helpful) but it has been proven that social interaction does lower your Cortisol levels (stress hormones)

I asked this to an A.I chatbot and i shall copy-paste:
"Yes, social interaction can lower cortisol levels, which are stress hormones. Positive social interactions, particularly those involving physical touch and support, can trigger the release of hormones like oxytocin and dopamine, which have stress-reducing effects. These hormones can help reduce feelings of anxiety and stress, leading to lower cortisol levels."

some sources:

Effects of different kinds of couple interaction on cortisol and heart rate responses to stress in women

In animal studies, positive social interaction and physical contact play a preeminent role in the control of behavioral and neuroendocrine responses t…

www.sciencedirect.com

https://www.soz.psy.unibe.ch/about_us/personen/thomas_baumgartner/e66124/files66139/Heinrichs_Baumgartner_BiologicalPsychiatry_2003.pdf

it's something beyond me as someone who never had friends I.R.L before nor ever had a good relationship with his family members, i can only imagine how better having good social bounds can enhance your life and make getting through the hardships easier, we're social animals that meant to be hunting in groups, we're not Snakes, that's an actual solitary animal that does not mind isolation and is meant to thrive in it.

Yes, that's my problem. Too few satisfying relation. I have family, but I have so enough to be almost always with them...
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I read a book that have the same conclusion than you to be happy : https://www.amazon.com/Good-Life-Lessons-Scientific-Happiness/dp/198216669X/

 

[SchizoGymnast]

I think value system has a lot to do with it as well. Note, the value system doesn't necessarily have to be positive. "Don't kill yourself because you'll be reincarnated in Hell as a bed bug" is, in theory, just as life-saving as "Stay alive because life is full of beautiful things just waiting to be explored."

 

[Doll Steak]

That's what's made me so suicidal as of late, I have relations but they are not fulfilling or even feel real. Its truly a death sentence to not have anyone, at least in my own mind and needs and experiences.

 

[AnimeSlayersFan]

not to say that "normies" have no problems or can't be suicidal (further from the truth) but they have something i don't have which is basically social and family relations, they can have a bad day and then have a converstion with a friend or a family member and re-charche (not generalizing here, i know having friends and a good relationship with your family is not always helpful) but it has been proven that social interaction does lower your Cortisol levels (stress hormones)

I asked this to an A.I chatbot and i shall copy-paste:
"Yes, social interaction can lower cortisol levels, which are stress hormones. Positive social interactions, particularly those involving physical touch and support, can trigger the release of hormones like oxytocin and dopamine, which have stress-reducing effects. These hormones can help reduce feelings of anxiety and stress, leading to lower cortisol levels."

some sources:

Effects of different kinds of couple interaction on cortisol and heart rate responses to stress in women

In animal studies, positive social interaction and physical contact play a preeminent role in the control of behavioral and neuroendocrine responses t…

www.sciencedirect.com

https://www.soz.psy.unibe.ch/about_us/personen/thomas_baumgartner/e66124/files66139/Heinrichs_Baumgartner_BiologicalPsychiatry_2003.pdf

it's something beyond me as someone who never had friends I.R.L before nor ever had a good relationship with his family members, i can only imagine how better having good social bounds can enhance your life and make getting through the hardships easier, we're social animals that meant to be hunting in groups, we're not Snakes, that's an actual solitary animal that does not mind isolation and is meant to thrive in it.

Ehhhh, I mean I'm not saying this is wrong, but I've been like shit even when I had a lot of social relationships, what I think "normies" have, Is a lack of introspection, they don't overthink as much, they don't think as much, I don't wanna use the term more "primitive", but for me it feels like that.
When talking issues with people I consider "normies" they are like "wtf are you talking about? You think too much, you overcomplicate things, when I feel bad, I just drink a few beers and forget about it, if there's something odd I don't worry about it, just ignore it"
And with my normie friends, for a lot of them, life is pretty boring, they just do the same shit day in and day out, and don't really think much about anything. It's a more "simple" life.

For a long time I thought this was like a facade with a deeper inner world, hidden away for discovery, but a lot of the times there's nothing there.
Yea they worry about social interaction more "will she like me?" "Will I get a promotion in status?" "If I buy this car will that make my """friends""" like me more?"

A ton of people are just simpletons, I'm not saying all are stupid, although naturally a ton of people are middle to lower middle IQ, but they don't enjoy thinking about things that much, they think in more straightforward ways. I've met a bunch of these people. Most of the people I meet are just going with the flow.

They go to a certain university cause their parents went there, they go to a certain bar because their friends do that, they follow a fashion trend cause "everyone's doing it", and just that, they don't question it. Quite a bunch will get agitated when you show them this fact, the fact that they don't question things much or don't care to, and you can see them instantly frown.

Try it and you'll see.

 

[The Morningstar]

I wanted to post the one about "Normie Maxxing" but I couldn't find it. In any case, I recommend Normie Maxxing. It saves lives.

 

[enjoytheride]

This topic is really interesting. We could go as far as the 19th century where scientific studies were already being conducted, namely Émile Durkheim's Suicide: A Study in Sociology (1897), which remains largely relevant even today. One of the main findings in Durkheim's study was exactly the importance of social cohesion/integration. Strongly socially integrated individuals are less likely to commit suicide, except in certain very special situations, such as during war, when an individual may actually commit suicide in the name/for their community (the so called "altruistic suicide"). If you are interested in learning more, please check the findings here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_(Durkheim_book)#Findings

If you wonder why Catholics and Jews are less likely to commit suicide than are Protestants, I believe Durkheim explains this with the communitarian nature of Catholicism and Judaism vs. the individualistic nature of Protestantism. The other findings in the list are easier to understand.