“I feel my whole body burning” a killer last words as he executed by N!!!!!

[Abir_london]

I'm so shocked and confused as I thought N was extremely peaceful!!!

Oklahoma Convict Who Felt “Body Burning” Executed With Controversial Drug | TIME.com

Michael Lee Wilson was executed using pentobarbital, prison officials tell TIME

nation.time.com

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

So this is in regards to injected pentobarbital, and a seemingly botched batch of it. It's also a part of some kind of lethal cocktail. Not sure how relevant this is to the people that are orally ingesting N from A, might be worth adding into a risk analysis, idk.

 

[mirko]

He was given a "mix of drugs", it could have been something else that gave him the feeling of burning.
I still think N is relatively peaceful since Exit and other pro-euthanasia organizations still use it.

 

[WornOutLife]

He was given a "mix of drugs", it could have been something else that gave him the feeling of burning.
I still think N is relatively peaceful since Exit and other pro-euthanasia organizations still use it.

I think exactly the same!

 

[Mentalmick]

That's just the feeling of him entering hell.

 

[reticen]

He did this just to spook us. Don't fall for it.

 

[Amumu]

You can't take for granted something which is said by someone who is literally dying.
His mind wasn't clear as soon as the products were in his body.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

He was experiencing the early stages of his entry into hell. Hell for him resembles a 7/11 to remind him forever of his crime at a convenience store. The goods in the store of the shop fall off the shelves constantly onto him, crushing his bones and bruising his body.

 

[popcorn]

N is peaceful, it was proably the sodium to cause heart attack, that does burn

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

He was experiencing the early stages of his entry into hell. Hell for him resembles a 7/11 to remind him forever of his crime at a convenience store. The goods in the store of the shop fall off the shelves constantly onto him, crushing his bones and bruising his body.

7/11 was a part-time job.

 

[Doubledie2]

Death is violent attack on the body. Any way you slice it, to die is to violently contradict your natural instinct to survive. While events may take us to a point of seeing death as the only way out, it remains a highly subjective consequence of a personal interpretation of circumstatial experiences that is still contrary to existence. In other words, to quote another member, no one starts out life wanting to die. It is no wonder then that death is not a peaceful experience - it was never meant to be one. It is supposed to be the worst experience of your life and hopefully the only one you will ever have. Pity the fool who has to die a thousand deaths.

 

[RainAndSadness]

N is used by every euthanasia organization all around the globe because it's considered a peaceful method - in fact it's the most peaceful way to pass away. The article has nothing to do with N, it specifically states that this person was executed with a "controversial mix of drugs", please don't fearmonger about established and well respected methods.

 

[lofticries]

I'm pretty sure what he got wasn't pure N. Humans and animals all dose off on that. I've seen maybe a few coughs but that's it. When they gave it to my cat when he had a tumor in his tummy it was lights out in a matter of seconds. Along with being devastated for my cat dying I was kind of jealous he got to have such a quick death.

 

[Meditation guide]

They might have mixed it with something else or injected it wrong who knows. That is not the experience of anyone else who used N.

 

[Octavina]

Pretty sure the iv missed his veins and the chemicals leaked into the rest of his body or something. Most of the time those death row doctors or whatever they're called aren't even trained medically a lot of the time because of the morals with the whole capital punishment and doctors. They have to use like 3 different drugs from sketchy sources half of the time and then the guy wasn't sedated at all so he felt it. Actually I'm wrong I think, but this case sounds similar to Clayton Lockett, who also had a botched execution

 

[angelus]

N is peaceful, it was proably the sodium to cause heart attack, that does burn

Yes, I know the lethal injection cocktail for convicts contains 3 different drugs. They mainly use sodium thiopental, a powerful induction anesthetic, as the first drug, followed by pavulon/pancuronium, a muscular relaxant, and potassium chloride as the safety ingredient to ensure death by heart attack.
Now, sodium thiopental suppliers refused to hand over the drug for death penalty executions, so some states have considered alternative substituent drugs. Maybe this is why they tried pentobatbital. But definitely they mixed it with potassium chloride.
The issue with unpeaceful deaths when it comes to prisons, is the procedure. The three drugs are administered one by one, with not enough time between them. So when potassium chloride enters the body, the first drug, the anesthetic, has not reached full effect and the person is still conscious and sensitive.
N in liquid form is designed to be injected. It was used before in hospitals to induce anesthesia. It definitely doesn't hurt. And I think injecting is better than drinking. You don't need to fast, don't need antiemetics, not deal with the bitter taste, and you'll not vomit. And you pass out faster.
SN on the other hand, is not designed for injection. SN burns all the area, the vein, a d the pain spreads in the body.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

i was watching some show and a bunch of states were executing people with midazolam which doesn't make them lose consciousness but does paralyze them. one guy was screaming "it burns it burns!" which would be bad but he had raped and killed a 14 MONTH OLD.. i am all for humane deaths for everyone but there are exceptions.

 

[settheory]

Feels like that was intentional. If they just wanted to execute him they could have just gave him N without any admixtures.

 

[noname223]

As many people have written there could be other reasons. (which are imo more likely)
Moreover if I want to ctb I have to choose a method. Nothing is 100% safe so I choose the best one of it. N is probably one of the best (except for availability etc.)

 

[lugerepair]

Did you all even read the article?

"Lundbeck's refusal to supply pentobarbital to U.S. prisons has caused a drug shortage that has led some prisons to use a synthetic version of the drug made in compounding pharmacies, which are not regulated by the FDA, according to Mother Jones. These unregulated drugs have been subjected to less rigorous testing, and may include contaminants that cause significant pain."

 

[The Lonely]

Did you all even read the article?

"Lundbeck's refusal to supply pentobarbital to U.S. prisons has caused a drug shortage that has led some prisons to use a synthetic version of the drug made in compounding pharmacies, which are not regulated by the FDA, according to Mother Jones. These unregulated drugs have been subjected to less rigorous testing, and may include contaminants that cause significant pain."

Which is definition of the product we actually have access to… lol

 

[juraviel]

it does make you wonder if N is so effective where does there need to be any other chemicals in the lethal injection. to speed up things i guess otherwise whoever's overseeing the procedure would have to watch him for couple hours. i suppose i answered my own question lol

 

[The Lonely]

it does make you wonder if N is so effective where does there need to be any other chemicals in the lethal injection. to speed up things i guess otherwise whoever's overseeing the procedure would have to watch him for couple hours. i suppose i answered my own question lol

I watched the video on YouTube and it's terrible….

I also wondered: "Why to give this fella three different substances, in three different injections… When N is the Top Drug in the World…" ???

Well…Today I know….
(But didn't knew back then in June when i purchase it). Lol

 

[lugerepair]

Which is definition of the product we actually have access to… lol

Precisely. That's my point. People in the comments seemed to think the other ingredients were the issue but that's not what the article says.

 

[juraviel]

excerpt from that article

Tanya Greene, advocacy and policy counsel on criminal justice issues for the ACLU, said the use of pentobarbitol in executions is unconstitutional as it violates the Eighth Amendment's protection against cruel and unusual punishment. Use of the drug in executions, she said, is "basically an experiment on human beings; the risk of extended, painful death is very high. The European manufacturer of pentobarbital objects to its use to kill and has stopped selling the drug to US states for use in executions."

 

[Efilismislife]

it does make you wonder if N is so effective where does there need to be any other chemicals in the lethal injection. to speed up things i guess otherwise whoever's overseeing the procedure would have to watch him for couple hours. i suppose i answered my own question lol

I dont think thats the issue. N is fast acting and also u dont need to watch him paralyzed and die. Hed do nothing anyway

Precisely. That's my point. People in the comments seemed to think the other ingredients were the issue but that's not what the article says.

excerpt from that article

Then what should they use?

 

[juraviel]

I dont think thats the issue. N is fast acting and also u dont need to watch him paralyzed and die. Hed do nothing anyway

no to actually be declared dead takes pretty long time.

 

[mini_weeny]

It's probably the famous case where the warden misplaced the IV and it leaked into the muscles.

 

[Worndown]

Oklahoma is not known for its compassion. Choose better for yourself.

 

[The Lonely]

no to actually be declared dead takes pretty long time.

Some people have all veins bad because of a previous injectable drugs use or disease treatment…

So they don't find good vein at the injection time …