I feel like not having euthanasia or assisted s for people with serious non curable illnesses including mental is inhumane..its disgusting and evil...

[Buffy5120]

No one should live like this no matter what age. I agree that yeah if your suffering with a disease for less than a year and didnt try to do anything to change it and want to ctb then maybe you shouldnt be accepted, but if someone is suffering for 3-10 years and tried really hard to get better and theres no relief why cant they jus be euthanized. The even more fucked up thing is that even when you pay the money they still reject you

 

[SmellyRat]

The evil bastards don't want to give us an easy way out because they'd lose their customers who they can sell pills to for life

 

[Superdeterminist]

Such is nature's boundless cruelty, that it gave us the capacity to feel agony, but did not provide us with an off switch, so now we have to struggle to make one for ourselves. And we already have a few contenders, like barbiturates and inert gases, but we've been held back, mostly by pro-life rhetoric, and the idea that life is always preferable to death (it's not).

There exist people who believe that it's never acceptable to commit suicide, that the preservation of life is the golden rule above all else. It really is tempting to hate them because of how little respect they pay to suffering. I think that a lot of them simply aren't aware of just how bad a life can get, and hopefully they can be shown, so that they'll stop defending, protecting, and attempting to justify suffering.

 

[Gnip]

I wonder if a single member of this site would dare speak up against that? For many of us here, time is running out, but the war for gaining assisted suicide and euthanasia as a legal right is guaranteed to ultimately be won throughout the world.

For pro lifers to win this, they have to produce infallible cures for all aging, disease, pain and death. We already have a cure for all of that called suicide. Can pro lifers outcompete that? Because if they can't, our side is already assured of victory!

 

[Meditation guide]

It's been five years of non stop pain and disability for me. It's torture every... single... day.

 

[Wraith]

I agree. In my country, those with certain untreatable illnesses are granted MAID, but not the mentally ill. I find this outrageously discriminatory. I mean, why even call mental ILLNESS an illness if we're not going to treat it like is in all respects?

 

[demuic]

People have this idea that "mental illness" can be completely cured and you'll always magically get better if you just try hard enough, but the reality is for many people that isn't true, never has been and never will be. (Not to mention those without mentall illness, who just happen to be in situations which would drive anyone insane.) There's no reason to continue to "live" a life that is endless suffering.

 

[Craig31ldn]

Because they have guilt.

 

[Buffy5120]

No one should live like this no matter what age. I agree that yeah if your suffering with a disease for less than a year and didnt try to do anything to change it and want to ctb then maybe you shouldnt be accepted, but if someone is suffering for 3-10 years and tried really hard to get better and theres no relief why cant they jus be euthanized. The even more fucked up thing is that even when you pay the money they still reject you

Exactly its because they are unaware and whats even more crazy the same people that are against it, they can actually get illnesses like us later on or even suddenly, and thats when they finally become "AWARE" and finally understand what we have been trying to say for so long. But by then its almost always to late, now they are stuck and have to deal with what we have to deal with, probably trying to find ways to ctb, where they are now in the same boat like us, and now understand they should of listened to us, instead of fighting against legalizing euthanasia clinics. Now "they too" are now stuck in a world of pro-lifers, that never understands, until it happens to them and is too late. It's a "vicious cycle" that not only impacts us, but can and will impact them later on down the road if they ever get severely sick. Pro-lifers are not immune to illnesses, us pro-choicers are actually trying to help people like them but because they cant see it right now they are messing it up for THEMSELVES too, if they ever get sick later in the future. Its really fucked up thats why i dont know what can help reach our point to them so they can be AWARE that this is real and it can happen to anyone especially when your older and all were trying to do is spare them some grief so they dont have to suffer like we are. Pro-lifers are to not immune to not being in the exact same situation as we are i dont know what can help get that message across to them, like would a movie help? Just like abortion, or being disabled in wheelchair for example, they didn't have ramps and wheelchair accessibility until it became noticed in the 1960s before no one understood what it was like to deal with disabilities same with abortion clinics, even this guy who was pro-life became pro-choice! simply after getting in an accident where he is now in a wheelchair and i even believe he was granted euthanasia. I was going to post the link for his story but I cant find it.

 

[rvsw]

I have got permission for Euthanasia in Switzerland but I cannot travel because I am bedridden. I am still looking for help for someone to just help me during the flight from New Delhi to Switzerland

 

[_Kaira_]

At least for me. I've been trying everything lately to pursue 'happiness'. But nothing has been working. I feel so much guilt everyday since I'm young with no real physical problems. But it's just like, nothing fills the hole that's been in my heart for so long. Not just relationships. Just...me. I don't feel truly alive, no sense of self worth or meaning. I don't want to live like this much longer. Why am I forced to be a prisoner inside of my own head just because "suicide isn't the answer. You're just not trying hard enough." Like ????? If they thought I felt like I could just 'be happy' don't they think I would?


I don't want to keep being a cash cow for the government. I don't want to keep living like this...


There's over 7billion people on this planet, are they really so greedy that they can't lose a million or 2 that are living a miserable existence?? Oh no, it's too selfish cause it would hurt the people we leave behind HAHA well I guess screw our pain and suffering cause "things can get better and people would miss you" lol....right.....

 

[muffin222]

I agree. There's this hypocritical double standard surrounding mental illness vs physical illness, wherein incurable mental illness is seen as less debilitating than physical illnesses and less justifiable to die over because it's happening "in your head".

 

[Sun n showers]

No one should live like this no matter what age. I agree that yeah if your suffering with a disease for less than a year and didnt try to do anything to change it and want to ctb then maybe you shouldnt be accepted, but if someone is suffering for 3-10 years and tried really hard to get better and theres no relief why cant they jus be euthanized. The even more fucked up thing is that even when you pay the money they still reject you

Yep , if they knew how we felt theh would help its unbearable, 6 years now for me I totally agree. Yep pefasus pay upfront 6000 euros then theh say no and if uou are lucky you get 2000 back ... seems impossible. Need to befriend a vet to get ethanol!

 

[LeavingEarly]

I have got permission for Euthanasia in Switzerland but I cannot travel because I am bedridden. I am still looking for help for someone to just help me during the flight from New Delhi to Switzerland

Which place in Switzerland?

 

[FuneralCry]

It is cruel to try to force people to live such low quality lives against their wishes. None of us asked to exist in the first place anyway. A peaceful exit from this life should be a human right. It is horrifying how our bodies can torture us to such great extents with no limit as to how bad things can get. I also think that it would make life more bearable for many people just having the option of euthanasia. Dying a slow painful death from illness is what no one should have to endure.

 

[Sun n showers]

It's been five years of non stop pain and disability for me. It's torture every... single... day.

I hear you, only wish those of us in this state were animals whose human friend decided to help us be at peace.

 

[RedHarlequin]

The evil bastards don't want to give us an easy way out because they'd lose their customers who they can sell pills to for life

Yes, and they will lose the reassurance they get for being the `good guys`. Something like that would turn their lives around.

 

[DreamSurfer]

I also agree with this. I can't comprehend how the system ultimately punishes you for wanting to ctb if it is found out that you have the ideology. There are things out there for various mental health issues, but ultimately for many there is no cure, and all of the trying and meds thrown at people with not much improvement just seems to make you more weary. All these people who don't know suffering, but refuse to give those that are suffering in various ways, a safe and comfortable means of exit as opposed to how people are forced to find ways to do it, are just evil.

There is nothing someone can ever tell me to justify why people should NOT be allowed to make thier exit if they so choose. All of these people who make it hard for us, damn sure aren't offering any solutions for more resources or study towards the many issues people are forced to endure. If they are so righteous to keep people from ctb, what is thier solutions to helping people have better chances at help that isn't temporary or empty hearted.

 

[Sun n showers]

It is cruel to try to force people to live such low quality lives against their wishes. None of us asked to exist in the first place anyway. A peaceful exit from this life should be a human right. It is horrifying how our bodies can torture us to such great extents with no limit as to how bad things can get. I also think that it would make life more bearable for many people just having the option of euthanasia. Dying a slow painful death from illness is what no one should have to endure.

Yep, there do seem to be some cases in belgium where euthanasia has been granted, both at a young age and with non terminal situations, or just with severe mental illness not physical , they seem to have been understood by their doctor, and the illness has been present for many yesrs. Doctors name is liev thienpont, I did call to speak with her at her clinic but she said she couldn't help anybody who was not Belgium national .

 

[jupiterwinds]

I've lived with chronic pain, disabilities, and fatigue my whole life and I'm done. Decades of suffering with everyone abusing me and telling me I'm fine. I should have the choice to end this safely and without risking making things worse with a psych hold or further disabilities from it going wrong. I can't even TALK about it without risking my safety, risking COVID and trauma from a psych hospital. It's bullshit.