So many guests are gawking at us. It is not that bad for me but it is a weird feeling, I did not watch this certain video. I repeated and explained a thousand times that this forum helps me to cope with suicidality. I can relate to many people on here. I feel taken seriously. In the last couple of years I had myriads of clinic stays, tried so many different medication, tried so many different ways to recover, had a couple of psychotherapies and still psychiatrists regularly laugh me out of the room when I want to talk with them about assisted suicide. I feel treated like a child from many people. I am suicidal since almost a decade and I really have these thoughts daily. I doubt average people can really imagine how it feels to be in a similar position than me.
I think the society is responsible for the fact this forum has such a huge traffic. It is a symptom for a society that does not treat mature people as mature individuals. Everyone who is suicidal is put into one category. I mean it is extremely difficult to apply for assisted suicide and even if I found a psychiatrist who helped me I am not able to pay for it. Moreover I am financially dependent on my parents and they threaten me to stop giving me money in case I try to apply for it.
In my opinion it is not smart to demonize suicide in such a way because it contributes to the stigmatization of the topic. Suicide is a very emotional topic and probably many people have a stance on it but moral outrage avoids to look at the topic with nuances. I don't have the feeling perspectives of people who are really suicidal for years, who tried so much to recover are heard enough. I mean the society (in many countries) does not offer these people in any way of form an exit if they reach their limit. These people in the end jump in front of trains or choose other very cruel methods which further increases the tragedy of their stories.
The problem is outsourced. And this seems to be exactly what the societies want. Personally I would prefer if there was an official way to apply for assisted suicide. Something that does not cost a couple of thousand euros and you don't have to search for the few handful of psychiatrists that exist who are not scared about legal punishment in order to help you.
If there is not such an official regulation the black markets will never vanish. Suicide is a topic that exists since humandkind started. It is just logical that places like this forum emerge when there are no official ways to approach this topic in a serious way. And with approaching that topic seriously I also mean that there is the possibility for the people to actually ending their existence when applying for it. More and more courts around the world acknowledge the right for a death with dignity as a human right.
Sometimes I don't know what the end goal of the people against assisted suicide is. I mean do we want to return to times when suicide was illegal and you got punished for attempting it? Nowadays you already have to commit a crime if you want to die peacefully. I am really a person that does not want to commit a crime. But realistically which other alternatives do I have when I reach my limit? Jumping in front of a train with the possibiliy to get shred in pieces and still surviving? Getting brain damage or the risk to kill other people when I try CO as a method?
Should people after they tried so much to recover and have failed really be forced to such cruel methods? This is seemingly want the regulators want. For me that is deeply cynical because it reinforces the injustice and tragedies of many suicide stories.
I would prefer an honest debate about suicide. So far the problem is outsourced. Suicide is not illegal. Though peaceful methods are illegal. Assisted suicide is either forbidden or extremely expensive. Isn't this a shame and hypocritical? People say suicide is a personal decision. Though when people want to choose a secure way without the extremely nightmarish notion to end as a vegetable they are criminalized. For me that is not honest. I think there will always be extremely desperate people who reached their limit who will search for a way to commit suicide. We are already punished by this life way too much. There comes a point in life when one says the pain is far bigger than the fear of punishment. And I don't think any legislation will change that.
Which options do I have when I cannot cope with this shit anymore that tortures me since a decade? This goes on for a decade. I mean there are not a few people who say well even if it lasts 7 decades we won't offer you any relief of it ignoring how much therapy you have tried. You should not wonder that if this is your answer to these individuals that they will turn to suicide forums instead.
I think the society is responsible for the fact this forum has such a huge traffic. It is a symptom for a society that does not treat mature people as mature individuals. Everyone who is suicidal is put into one category. I mean it is extremely difficult to apply for assisted suicide and even if I found a psychiatrist who helped me I am not able to pay for it. Moreover I am financially dependent on my parents and they threaten me to stop giving me money in case I try to apply for it.
In my opinion it is not smart to demonize suicide in such a way because it contributes to the stigmatization of the topic. Suicide is a very emotional topic and probably many people have a stance on it but moral outrage avoids to look at the topic with nuances. I don't have the feeling perspectives of people who are really suicidal for years, who tried so much to recover are heard enough. I mean the society (in many countries) does not offer these people in any way of form an exit if they reach their limit. These people in the end jump in front of trains or choose other very cruel methods which further increases the tragedy of their stories.
The problem is outsourced. And this seems to be exactly what the societies want. Personally I would prefer if there was an official way to apply for assisted suicide. Something that does not cost a couple of thousand euros and you don't have to search for the few handful of psychiatrists that exist who are not scared about legal punishment in order to help you.
If there is not such an official regulation the black markets will never vanish. Suicide is a topic that exists since humandkind started. It is just logical that places like this forum emerge when there are no official ways to approach this topic in a serious way. And with approaching that topic seriously I also mean that there is the possibility for the people to actually ending their existence when applying for it. More and more courts around the world acknowledge the right for a death with dignity as a human right.
Sometimes I don't know what the end goal of the people against assisted suicide is. I mean do we want to return to times when suicide was illegal and you got punished for attempting it? Nowadays you already have to commit a crime if you want to die peacefully. I am really a person that does not want to commit a crime. But realistically which other alternatives do I have when I reach my limit? Jumping in front of a train with the possibiliy to get shred in pieces and still surviving? Getting brain damage or the risk to kill other people when I try CO as a method?
Should people after they tried so much to recover and have failed really be forced to such cruel methods? This is seemingly want the regulators want. For me that is deeply cynical because it reinforces the injustice and tragedies of many suicide stories.
I would prefer an honest debate about suicide. So far the problem is outsourced. Suicide is not illegal. Though peaceful methods are illegal. Assisted suicide is either forbidden or extremely expensive. Isn't this a shame and hypocritical? People say suicide is a personal decision. Though when people want to choose a secure way without the extremely nightmarish notion to end as a vegetable they are criminalized. For me that is not honest. I think there will always be extremely desperate people who reached their limit who will search for a way to commit suicide. We are already punished by this life way too much. There comes a point in life when one says the pain is far bigger than the fear of punishment. And I don't think any legislation will change that.
Which options do I have when I cannot cope with this shit anymore that tortures me since a decade? This goes on for a decade. I mean there are not a few people who say well even if it lasts 7 decades we won't offer you any relief of it ignoring how much therapy you have tried. You should not wonder that if this is your answer to these individuals that they will turn to suicide forums instead.
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