FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I find it very insensitive when people act like suicide needs a valid enough reason and dismiss, discriminate and gatekeep who is or isn't valid in their choice to die. Suicide is a personal decision and should never need a reason behind it, if one wants to die they should simply be able to in peace and it's not anyone else's place to say otherwise as after all it's not their existence, none of us consented to existing here in the first place and aren't obligated to continue.

I don't understand why many believe voluntary death needs to be justified as after all death will happen someday whether there is a reason behind it or not, people should be able to choose when they die without other people invalidating their wishes and telling them otherwise.

I will never be able to understand what is supposedly "good" and "valuable" about existence to justify voluntary death needing a reason behind it, in fact existence itself is enough to make me wish to die. Just the fact I'm conscious and aware makes me wish for the peace of eternal non-existence.

I'd always prefer to not exist than to be burdened with this meaningless existence for decades on end. Actually wishing to delay the inevitable in this cruel and futile existence where there is no limit as to how much one can suffer is what makes no sense to me personally, wanting to die is all that makes sense to me personally.

I'd rather die peacefully on my own terms rather than pointlessly decaying from age just to be tormented by very old age but of course only never existing is perfection to me, to exist means to suffer so unnecessarily with the risk of suffering much more being there at any moment.

The option of a peaceful death should be avaliable for all without any gatekeeping or long winded assisted suicide processes as suicide is always a valid personal, individual choice that never needs to be justified. To me existence justifies suicide and nobody should be forced to suffer or have to struggle to die ultimately because humans so selfishly decided to procreate.
 
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Guy Smiley

Guy Smiley

Just another lost soul
Jan 4, 2024
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If you were an AI bot your name would be ChatCTB. No offense intended. It's just a joke.
 
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EyesOfNight

EyesOfNight

the night will be eternal
Feb 2, 2024
371
I feel the same. Shouldn't I need a reason to do something (existing) rather than needing a reason not to.
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
3,634
I agree with it being dumb that people expect that there always has to be a reason for why someone wants to die. A lot of people simply don't want to exist anymore and don't have any specific reason for it. They're just tired of existing. I guess a lot of people assume that not wanting to live anymore must be a sign that something is deeply wrong with someone and they MUST have a specific reason for it. It's annoying, especially since this inevitably leads to people assuming that if you don't a reason for wanting to ctb then you are faking it for attention.

Just as how some people prefer existing and don't have a specific reason for it, some people don't like existing and don't have a specific reason for it. Nobody should have to justify their desire to die to anyone.
 
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ctbcat

ctbcat

Yes, the everlasting contrast.
Jul 14, 2023
228
i think it's stupid to look for a SINGULAR motive/reason anyway... nothing to do with life & death works that way. you can point to one thing and blame it on that but it's completely disingenuous because it blatantly ignores another part of the picture. suffering is intrinsic to life... isn't that enough to understand why someone would ctb instead of holding onto the existence they didn't ask for?
 
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R_N

R_N

-Memento Mori-
Dec 3, 2019
1,442
I wonder how long will this last... Fc making a thread and being made fun of. I have some criticism myself but I don't think this is sustainable or good overall.

Fc will never engage in discussion, people won't stop making fun of her either at this point. And mods are not going to intervene unless it goes out of hand.

So, how will this end?
 
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TheSpookyNameGuy

TheSpookyNameGuy

There's nothing here..
Apr 30, 2023
646
I wonder how long will this last... Fc making a thread and being made fun of. I have some criticism myself but I don't think this is sustainable or good overall.

Fc will never engage in discussion, people won't stop making fun of her either at this point. And mods are not going to intervene unless it goes out of hand.

So, how will this end?
Maybe it never does
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
5,158
I wonder how long will this last... Fc making a thread and being made fun of. I have some criticism myself but I don't think this is sustainable or good overall.

Fc will never engage in discussion, people won't stop making fun of her either at this point. And mods are not going to intervene unless it goes out of hand.

So, how will this end?
I have a theory that it could end in 3 different ways. First, FC is dead which means no more venting. Second, this site gets taken down by pro lifers by a media influence greater than what tantacrul had. Third, FC gets banned. The latter two seem unlikely so I believe it'll end via the first method (and I kinda hope it does so that FC finally gets the peace that she wanted)
 
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LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

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Jul 23, 2022
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I think people should be encouraged to think critically about their suicide. If you want to sail off into eternity on the ship of a rational suicide, it's in your best interest to see if the hull has any leaks.
 
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WhiteRabbit

WhiteRabbit

I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
1,462
I wonder how long will this last... Fc making a thread and being made fun of. I have some criticism myself but I don't think this is sustainable or good overall.

Fc will never engage in discussion, people won't stop making fun of her either at this point. And mods are not going to intervene unless it goes out of hand.

So, how will this end?
She's been doing this for years. Mods used to lock her threads all the time, but I noticed they haven't been doing that as much. Possibly because she started making posts shitting on the forum. I suspect it will keep going on until FC gets sick of posting here.
 
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TheSpookyNameGuy

TheSpookyNameGuy

There's nothing here..
Apr 30, 2023
646
She's been doing this for years. Mods used to lock her threads all the time, but I noticed they haven't been doing that as much. Possibly because she started making posts shitting on the forum. I suspect it will keep going on until FC gets sick of posting here.
What was the reason for locking them?
 
R_N

R_N

-Memento Mori-
Dec 3, 2019
1,442
She's been doing this for years. Mods used to lock her threads all the time, but I noticed they haven't been doing that as much. Possibly because she started making posts shitting on the forum. I suspect it will keep going on until FC gets sick of posting here.
I didn't know that. I left forums in 2020 and came back half a year ago I think.

Back when I rejoined I didn't see her getting picked on until recently.
 
T

the old man

Student
Dec 23, 2023
101
I hope she doesn't stop posting, reading them helps send me to sleep.
 
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sisyphus_

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Feb 3, 2024
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Of course suicide is a highly personal choice, the most personal choice ever. But whether you like it or not, there's always a reason.
There's a reason why we have SI and we're just animals that developed consciousness which led to the suicide phenomenon.
I think the point behind suicide "needing a reason" is to see whether it's just a momentary impulsive decision or not which shouldn't happen in my opinion, and also to understand and research the topic more.
 
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WhiteRabbit

WhiteRabbit

I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
1,462
I didn't know that. I left forums in 2020 and came back half a year ago I think.

Back when I rejoined I didn't see her getting picked on until recently.
It ebbs and flows.
 
Lulzacruel

Lulzacruel

Specialist
Jun 13, 2023
336
They claimed people would bully her.
I saw some screenshots of the comments on some of the locked threads before they got vanished and i feel like people are just mad that FC wont give reply. She says that there is a lot of pro-life users and then never elaborates. People then move the anger on the thread to the ethics of her frequent posts and it becomes a tornado of insults.

We can not let FC request who gets banned even if mods obviously will not be her own military. We also need to stop these CTRL C+ CTRL V posts from FC that accuse people of being pro life with no reply or definition since it causes enough seethe on the forum to be on suicide discussion for the entire day. The other side needs to learn to stop flamewars.

This is a free speech forum. There are reasonable limits. Emotionally unstable people should not be angry on a forum meant to help them.
 
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J&L383

Wizard
Jul 18, 2023
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ChatCTB 😉 I agree. "Existence justifies suicide" I couldn't have said it better myself. Those who choose to live feel threatened by those who choose not to live. It shouldn't be any different than choosing where to live or whether or not to marry or have children. But for now we're stuck with it.
 
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WhiteRabbit

WhiteRabbit

I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
1,462
I saw some screenshots of the comments on some of the locked threads before they got vanished and i feel like people are just mad that FC wont give reply. She says that there is a lot of pro-life users and then never elaborates. People then move the anger on the thread to the ethics of her frequent posts and it becomes a tornado of insults.

We can not let FC request who gets banned even if mods obviously will not be her own military. We also need to stop these CTRL C+ CTRL V posts from FC that accuse people of being pro life with no reply or definition since it causes enough seethe on the forum to be on suicide discussion for the entire day. The other side needs to learn to stop flamewars.

This is a free speech forum. There are reasonable limits. Emotionally unstable people should not be angry on a forum meant to help them.
Personally, I think the mods were being kind of ridiculous back then. If FC wants to make 300000000 of the same inflammatory post, fine, but people are going to have opinions about it, and that's fair.
 
lonelyraven

lonelyraven

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Feb 26, 2024
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I don't get it either. I hate being "Why do you want to die? You have so much to live for."
1, no, not really I don't. My whole life has been ripped away from me, I hate myself, I hate the world, I hate people and I wish we'd all just die.
2, Suicide is a mercy in some cases like mine. My life is just going to be an endless cycle of suffering and I only hurt people and no one understands my trauma bc it's so out there. It would have been a mercy for my abusers to kill me, and it's a mercy for me to kill myself.
 
sorlox

sorlox

preparations...
Dec 1, 2023
122
I didn't know that. I left forums in 2020 and came back half a year ago I think.

Back when I rejoined I didn't see her getting picked on until recently.
i think that started after a few offensive threads of her, which were closed by mods
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
5,158
Unless option 1 ends on a cliff hanger because venting about non-existence gives purpose to it. Or her SI won't give her a place on the bus when the time and means become available.
I don't understand what you mean by the first sentence. As for the second sentence, I believe that the time and means will never be available during this lifetime. I think that believing that society would allow euthanasia to those without a terminal disease is extremely optimistic and stupid. It's just wishful thinking. That said, I do believe that she'll die a natural death instead. If she doesn't and starts to reach old age, maybe she'd try to ctb in whichever way is possible. She doesn't seem to like the idea of living through old age and, well, I don't either. Old age sounds awful
 
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The Schizoid

The Schizoid

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Oct 24, 2023
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I think it needs justification because you are leaving something behind, usually your family or others who will suffer because of your passing.

Also because most people who CTB don't really want to die, they just don't want to suffer or have given up on acquiring a happy life.

But in reality most people who are suicidal would prefer a happy life over non-existence, but if there's no hope for happiness and also a lot of pain, people would prefer not to exist.

If you were really happy with your life, why would you ctb? You only want ctb if you are escaping from something, which is at the very least an unsatisfying existence.
 
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