Venting I don't think life without love is worth it

[737492]

And no, "self love" doesn't count because it's not the same. It's not nearly comparable to the selflessness that it takes for another person to care about you.

I can't count on love from my family because I'm estranged from most because of abuse and neglect. The family members who do "love" me only tolerate me because of a facade I put on; showing who I really am would make them cut ties with me. I dont know if I can say my mom loves me either, as she puts so much important in me being financially and academically successful that I feel like she only loves the idea of me she created in her head.

None of my friends really love me, theyre distant and constantly flake out on me. I'm only someone to have drinks and laugh with but not someone they really care about.

And I'm doing everything I can to find romantic love because it's the only option I have left. I've worked on my physical appearance and developed social skills to the point that people would be shocked if I said I'm suicidal. I've tried every dating app possible, I've tried letting things happen naturally in real life. Two years and all I've got were very short lived, meaningless flings. The few people who wanted me turned out to be assholes, and the ones I did like either ghosted me or moved on.

At this point I've accepted I'm never going to know what being loved is like. I'm never going to have someone hold me and want me and genuinely love who I am. I'm going to die a sad and lonely death, whether that is through suicide, old age or anything else.

And seeing how love changes people for the better, including people I know, makes me certain that life without love is meaningless. I dont care what therapists say but no one can live a happy life being completely unloved, relying only on themselves. Humans are social creatures meant to bond and love each other, we depend on love for survival.

 

[WornOutLife]

I totally understand your point. Some people really need to find a partner to love in order to be happy.

However, love can really hurt and make you more suicidal. There are some married people here who are really unhappy and wish they had never got married.

As for me, I had found the love of my life but unfortunately our relationship became too toxic and my love for loliness won.

Sometimes, I wish I could love again but I don't think it will happen.

 

[737492]

I totally understand your point. Some people really need to find a partner to love in order to be happy.

However, love can really hurt and make you more suicidal. There are some married people here who are really unhappy and wish they had never married.

As for me, I had found the love of my life but unfortunately our relationship became too toxic and my love for loliness won.

Sometimes, I wish I could love again but I don't think it will happen.

I'm in a similar situation kind of, I had someone I really loved but distance and other uncontrollable circumstances made it fall apart. I'm really convinced that I'm incapable of ever being loved again. Been years since I felt anything

 

[WornOutLife]

I'm in a similar situation kind of, I had someone I really loved but distance and other uncontrollable circumstances made it fall apart. I'm really convinced that I'm incapable of ever being loved again. Been years since I felt anything

I hope love gives us one more chance.
I really miss the cuddling and cute text messages!

 

[737492]

I hope love gives us one more chance.
I really miss the cuddling and cute text messages!

Me too. Unfortunately I've kinda accepted that I'm destined to die alone.

 

[fred farkle]

And no, "self love" doesn't count because it's not the same. It's not nearly comparable to the selflessness that it takes for another person to care about you.

I can't count on love from my family because I'm estranged from most because of abuse and neglect. The family members who do "love" me only tolerate me because of a facade I put on; showing who I really am would make them cut ties with me. I dont know if I can say my mom loves me either, as she puts so much important in me being financially and academically successful that I feel like she only loves the idea of me she created in her head.

None of my friends really love me, theyre distant and constantly flake out on me. I'm only someone to have drinks and laugh with but not someone they really care about.

And I'm doing everything I can to find romantic love because it's the only option I have left. I've worked on my physical appearance and developed social skills to the point that people would be shocked if I said I'm suicidal. I've tried every dating app possible, I've tried letting things happen naturally in real life. Two years and all I've got were very short lived, meaningless flings. The few people who wanted me turned out to be assholes, and the ones I did like either ghosted me or moved on.

At this point I've accepted I'm never going to know what being loved is like. I'm never going to have someone hold me and want me and genuinely love who I am. I'm going to die a sad and lonely death, whether that is through suicide, old age or anything else.

And seeing how love changes people for the better, including people I know, makes me certain that life without love is meaningless. I dont care what therapists say but no one can live a happy life being completely unloved, relying only on themselves. Humans are social creatures meant to bond and love each other, we depend on love for survival.

well,you know what St. Francis of Assisi says: Seek not to be loved,but to love. you are a very resourceful and intelligent guy. you shouldnt give up. keep trying at life. but,er,dont try so hard. a guy who is desperate for love is ,as they say,chick kryptonite!!

 

[Marktheghost]

I think I agree. I don't think life without love is worth it either.

 

[Dripping]

well in my opinion I completely agree, there is no point in life without love but there is a strange effect going on.
E.G. deeply loving someone makes him stronger and you brave.
Today there is no more love as it should be. Sex is granted but no emotional engagement is allowed. how this could possibly be right?

 

[naiad]

I'm a pathetic romantic. I believe life without love is useless. The psychologist keeps pissing me off that I have to love myself first. I just want to live for someone. Is it wrong if i don't love myself?

 

[Lost Magic]

Right now I love the thought of drinking my sodium nitrite in peace. Does that count?

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

Love is dead. Love remains dead. And we have killed it. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us?​

Nowadays it's all about the clout (narc supply) and the money (increasing survivability, quality of life), tbh. We either fall in line or get wiped the fuck out.

"The nail that sticks out will get hammered down."

 

[Lucien]

Love is dead. Love remains dead. And we have killed it. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us?​

Nowadays it's all about the clout (narc supply) and the money (increasing survivability, quality of life), tbh. We either fall in line or get wiped the fuck out.

"The nail that sticks out will get hammered down."

Neetzsche is that you? Now that I think about it Nietzsche was actually a NEET.

 

[Good4Nothing]

And no, "self love" doesn't count because it's not the same. It's not nearly comparable to the selflessness that it takes for another person to care about you.

I can't count on love from my family because I'm estranged from most because of abuse and neglect. The family members who do "love" me only tolerate me because of a facade I put on; showing who I really am would make them cut ties with me. I dont know if I can say my mom loves me either, as she puts so much important in me being financially and academically successful that I feel like she only loves the idea of me she created in her head.

None of my friends really love me, theyre distant and constantly flake out on me. I'm only someone to have drinks and laugh with but not someone they really care about.

And I'm doing everything I can to find romantic love because it's the only option I have left. I've worked on my physical appearance and developed social skills to the point that people would be shocked if I said I'm suicidal. I've tried every dating app possible, I've tried letting things happen naturally in real life. Two years and all I've got were very short lived, meaningless flings. The few people who wanted me turned out to be assholes, and the ones I did like either ghosted me or moved on.

At this point I've accepted I'm never going to know what being loved is like. I'm never going to have someone hold me and want me and genuinely love who I am. I'm going to die a sad and lonely death, whether that is through suicide, old age or anything else.

And seeing how love changes people for the better, including people I know, makes me certain that life without love is meaningless. I dont care what therapists say but no one can live a happy life being completely unloved, relying only on themselves. Humans are social creatures meant to bond and love each other, we depend on love for survival.

I completely agree.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I completely agree.

So do I.

 

[Livingvsdying25]

Agree.. and half-ass love and care doesn't cut it either.

Neither does love at a distance..

 

[popcorn]

those who have yet to experience it think its the be all and end all (once upon a time me included). when you've been through it you soon realise its not all that. there are many things in life which are just as good if not better. with love comes pain and lots of it.

 

[Delia]

Love is a tremendous amount of work. If you cant love yourself i dont know how expecting a relationship to make you appreciate life is supposed to work. I'd rather die alone than make someone carry my shell. It's not salvation far from it.

 

[737492]

well,you know what St. Francis of Assisi says: Seek not to be loved,but to love. you are a very resourceful and intelligent guy. you shouldnt give up. keep trying at life. but,er,dont try so hard. a guy who is desperate for love is ,as they say,chick kryptonite!!

well,you know what St. Francis of Assisi says: Seek not to be loved,but to love. you are a very resourceful and intelligent guy. you shouldnt give up. keep trying at life. but,er,dont try so hard. a guy who is desperate for love is ,as they say,chick kryptonite!!

Thank you for the advice, but I'm actually a girl haha

I'm a pathetic romantic. I believe life without love is useless. The psychologist keeps pissing me off that I have to love myself first. I just want to live for someone. Is it wrong if i don't love myself?

Me too. It's very hard to love myself. I've loved someone else before and it was way easier.

those who have yet to experience it think its the be all and end all (once upon a time me included). when you've been through it you soon realise its not all that. there are many things in life which are just as good if not better. with love comes pain and lots of it.

Well...I've actually experienced it before. And I feel like it's the reason why right now I'm so desperately lonely. I just want to go back to what I had before...I was happier back then.

 

[Celerity]

I'm the same way except that I'm not estranged from my family. I wish I didn't give AF. It would make things so much easier.

 

[cheesefundamental]

i completely understand what you mean by this. the base reason im suicidal is because my partners, who promised so many times over they wouldnt leave me, left me because of my own fuck ups.

from how you sound, you seem wonderful as a person, though, and im sure if we had met under certain circumstances and gotten to know eachother, im sure i couldve loved you if that makes sense

meaning, there is someone out there for you, and, i believe fate has a hand in it, one way or another, because someone out there is begging, pleading for someone like you
you just have to wait for them
and i know waiting is hard, and painful, and life without love is agonizing

but trust me, that time will come, and you wont have to die alone

i know that youve been beaten into believing otherwise

but, if my words are anything to go by, you do deserve love

 

[SadGirl]

I fully agree. I am suffering from the lack of love from my ex girlfriend. And it's horrible, one of the main reasons why I want ctb.

 

[Celerity]

I fully agree. I am suffering from the lack of love from my ex girlfriend. And it's horrible, one of the main reasons why I want ctb.

Are you a lesbian then?

 

[Marine]

And no, "self love" doesn't count because it's not the same. It's not nearly comparable to the selflessness that it takes for another person to care about you.

I can't count on love from my family because I'm estranged from most because of abuse and neglect. The family members who do "love" me only tolerate me because of a facade I put on; showing who I really am would make them cut ties with me. I dont know if I can say my mom loves me either, as she puts so much important in me being financially and academically successful that I feel like she only loves the idea of me she created in her head.

None of my friends really love me, theyre distant and constantly flake out on me. I'm only someone to have drinks and laugh with but not someone they really care about.

And I'm doing everything I can to find romantic love because it's the only option I have left. I've worked on my physical appearance and developed social skills to the point that people would be shocked if I said I'm suicidal. I've tried every dating app possible, I've tried letting things happen naturally in real life. Two years and all I've got were very short lived, meaningless flings. The few people who wanted me turned out to be assholes, and the ones I did like either ghosted me or moved on.

At this point I've accepted I'm never going to know what being loved is like. I'm never going to have someone hold me and want me and genuinely love who I am. I'm going to die a sad and lonely death, whether that is through suicide, old age or anything else.

And seeing how love changes people for the better, including people I know, makes me certain that life without love is meaningless. I dont care what therapists say but no one can live a happy life being completely unloved, relying only on themselves. Humans are social creatures meant to bond and love each other, we depend on love for survival.

We seem to be twins in misfortune ! Scarily similar experience.

I'm so sorry you're enduring this hell too and yet seeing that I'm not the only one going through this eased my pain a little. *hugs for you*

I don't want to bother you but if it interests you and if you don't mind could you share your opinion or ideas on this post meant as an attempt to understand and change such a "fate" :

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...hen-no-one-cares-about-you.64272/post-1200994

 

[Yasuke]

It's just another strike of reasons I shouldn't live. I can't have a girlfriend, sex, love even friends nowadays. Being a virgin at 25 never having a relationship how many people think you know can relate? So you're virtually all alone in that department . All alone in feeling humiliated by others in relationships or talking about sex. How many people do you think would be mentally sound without social interaction, relationships and their kids? Basked in impotence and castration aniexty, eneraged or disparged by hopelessness but the world wants you to go on and be a drone but gives you every reason not to except survive and that's if you wanted to anyways. Laughable.

There's no where to talk about it anyways cause mens problems aren't taken seriously and are demonized. You have to go about seeing women in public and being powerless to them and nobody can help you. Yeah why shouldn't I kill myself then? Why wouldn't anyone want to kill myself in my situation.

How is anyone that desires these things supposed to cope? And consolation prize? Video games that I don't even know if I have time or energy for anyone because I'm supposed to work a 9-5 for the rest of my life. There's nobody in the world that wouldn't fall to the wayside atleast once without those things. Theres no reason to live.

 

[kappa]

It's definitely hard..

I am estranged from all family and have no friends where I live. I have a text buddy in another country and we talk a good amount. I have another text buddy but we don't talk much.

I work retail and usually people treat you like trash- that on top of having no one doesn't help.

I think I'm just too scared to try to kill myself. It didn't work out last time so it's scary to consider failing again- but I think about it a lot.

 

[fred farkle]

Thank you for the advice, but I'm actually a girl haha

Me too. It's very hard to love myself. I've loved someone else before and it was way easier.

Well...I've actually experienced it before. And I feel like it's the reason why right now I'm so desperately lonely. I just want to go back to what I had before...I was happier back then.

LOL sorry!! still hoping you find your way to a good life!

 

[lonerclown666]

Love dont exist even in Family

 

[Futile]

I wish I could have experienced love at least once

 

[bloomingdark]

My life is guided by love, sadly I lost most of it just yesterday wich means , nothing is holding me from death

 

[Secrets1]

I'm in a similar situation kind of, I had someone I really loved but distance and other uncontrollable circumstances made it fall apart. I'm really convinced that I'm incapable of ever being loved again. Been years since I felt anything

I'm with you, the pain is awful. Sending hugs