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cantgetoutofbed
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- Jul 21, 2020
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Thank you for sharing that. This makes total sense to me. I feel like I'm in "freeze" mode - can't do anything. The shock took a couple of weeks to have an effect, and I was slipping, but then it was just out of my control and has been. I don't feel like there's anything that can be done for it. It's what they used to call a nervous breakdown.
I have his book out right now... I can list important points (based on my understanding):
• Abandonment depression is a severe response to...well, perceived abandonment
• The idea is that we're triggered into fear and shame, which causes the "inner critic" to take over (described as retraumatizing), which causes a fight/flight/freeze/fawn response
• It seems to basically be a giant emotional flashback, which is generally a level of "fear, shame, alienation, rage, grief, and/or depression" that's disproportionate to tge triggering event ie perceived abandonment
- emotional flashbacks can last "from moments to weeks on end"...during my more recent experience, it seems like my depression got significantly worse for a while (not sure if it was a week?) and I remember feeling an unbearable amount of shame, grief, and depression. Horrible stuff.
I find that Walker doesn't really explain some concepts well, so I'm not sure if my bullet points sum it up accurately. But when I first read the idea of abandonment depression and emotional flashbacks...it was like "wow so many other people feel this way!" Regardless I still feel like a melodramatic freak lmao but ah well. Reddit's r/cptsd helps too if you're interested.
Hey, it's cool that Seroquel makes you hungry at least for a little bit. I was prescribed Seroquel for insomnia and to augment my antidepressant. It may have helped if I took it more than the one time... I don't really remember it doing anything at all. It may have made me hungry too but idk.
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It's not showing my last message, for some reason. I'm reading up on some of his stuff now.I have his book out right now... I can list important points (based on my understanding):
• Abandonment depression is a severe response to...well, perceived abandonment
• The idea is that we're triggered into fear and shame, which causes the "inner critic" to take over (described as retraumatizing), which causes a fight/flight/freeze/fawn response
• It seems to basically be a giant emotional flashback, which is generally a level of "fear, shame, alienation, rage, grief, and/or depression" that's disproportionate to tge triggering event ie perceived abandonment
- emotional flashbacks can last "from moments to weeks on end"...during my more recent experience, it seems like my depression got significantly worse for a while (not sure if it was a week?) and I remember feeling an unbearable amount of shame, grief, and depression. Horrible stuff.
I find that Walker doesn't really explain some concepts well, so I'm not sure if my bullet points sum it up accurately. But when I first read the idea of abandonment depression and emotional flashbacks...it was like "wow so many other people feel this way!" Regardless I still feel like a melodramatic freak lmao but ah well. Reddit's r/cptsd helps too if you're interested.
Hey, it's cool that Seroquel makes you hungry at least for a little bit. I was prescribed Seroquel for insomnia and to augment my antidepressant. It may have helped if I took it more than the one time... I don't really remember it doing anything at all. It may have made me hungry too but idk.
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