IsThisTheEnd?

IsThisTheEnd?

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I just can't get up and don't know when or if this will end. Any suggestions please!!!
 
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Do you have any other information? Are you in pain? What happens if you try to get up?
 
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IsThisTheEnd?

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Aug 6, 2020
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I just can't find any interest in anything, my brain has gone into a strange state.
 
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I just can't find any interest in anything, my brain has gone into a strange state.
I figured it might have been mental but personally suffering from back pain and how you seemed a little panicked I figured I'd start with physical.
 
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WornOutLife

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I just can't find any interest in anything, my brain has gone into a strange state.

I can totally relate because that's what happened to me. I had neither reasons nor motivation to leave my bed so, I just stayed there

You gotta find something that interests you. You might think there's nothing but there's ALWAYS something. It could even be a videogame! It doesn't matter!

In my case, it was learning a new language and then I had more energy to do other stuff such as taking a shower everyday, cleaning, organizing my stuff, etc.

Now, I'm even able to work!

However, I'm still suicidal. That's just part of me but, it feels good not to be in a bed 24/7. That's not living and if I'm not gonna ctb, I won't spend the rest of my days like a zombie.
 
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I can totally relate because that's what happened to me. I had neither reasons nor motivation to leave my bed so, I just stayed there

You gotta find something that interests you. You might think there's nothing but there's ALWAYS something. It could even be a videogame! It doesn't matter!

In my case, it was learning a new language and then I had more energy to do other stuff such as taking a shower everyday, cleaning, organizing my stuff, etc.

Now, I'm even able to work!

However, I'm still suicidal. That's just part of me but, it feels good not to be in a bed 24/7. That's not living and if I'm not gonna ctb, I won't spend the rest of my days like a zombie.
"there's always something"

I would say that that's usually the case but not always. 'Interesting' is a subjective experiential product of brain function. Depending on the severity of dysfunction there can be completely anhedonic catatonic states.

That said, OP had enough motivation and concern to make this post which is a good sign; it's just a matter of finding enough motivation to do something that requires getting outa bed.

which is fucking hard man. Especially when you (by you I mean anyone—based on personal experience & what I know) condition your brain to be stimulated while lying down like a sloth and using the phone/tablet/laptop.

Well perhaps that's OPs problem too but idk since he didn't say. But I now know what I gotta do—I mean, if I were capable of taking my own advice I wouldn't be on this site in the first place, but nonetheless—I will try to renounce all digital stuff (and masturbation) while lying on bed (I probably spend like 18 hrs a day lying on bed like lazy fuk) and I hope this reply somehow helps OP too.
 
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WornOutLife

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"there's always something"

I would say that that's usually the case but not always. 'Interesting' is a subjective experiential product of brain function. Depending on the severity of dysfunction there can be completely anhedonic catatonic states.

That said, OP had enough motivation and concern to make this post which is a good sign; it's just a matter of finding enough motivation to do something that requires getting outa bed.

which is fucking hard man. Especially when you (by you I mean anyone—based on personal experience & what I know) condition your brain to be stimulated while lying down like a sloth and using the phone/tablet/laptop.

Well perhaps that's OPs problem too but idk since he didn't say. But I now know what I gotta do—I mean, if I were capable of taking my own advice I wouldn't be on this site in the first place, but nonetheless—I will try to renounce all digital stuff (and masturbation) while lying on bed (I probably spend like 18 hrs a day lying on bed like lazy fuk) and I hope this reply somehow helps OP too.

Yeah, digital stuff makes everything harder.
I was a NEET for 3 years. I just can't believe I was able to get out of there but I know that if I get depressed enough, things will be even worse than those days!!
This is a daily struggle and you a need a very strong mindset, which I know it's not easy to get.
Meds sometimes help. In my case, bupropion also gave me the push I needed.
 
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"there's always something"

I would say that that's usually the case but not always. 'Interesting' is a subjective experiential product of brain function. Depending on the severity of dysfunction there can be completely anhedonic catatonic states.

That said, OP had enough motivation and concern to make this post which is a good sign; it's just a matter of finding enough motivation to do something that requires getting outa bed.

which is fucking hard man. Especially when you (by you I mean anyone—based on personal experience & what I know) condition your brain to be stimulated while lying down like a sloth and using the phone/tablet/laptop.

Well perhaps that's OPs problem too but idk since he didn't say. But I now know what I gotta do—I mean, if I were capable of taking my own advice I wouldn't be on this site in the first place, but nonetheless—I will try to renounce all digital stuff (and masturbation) while lying on bed (I probably spend like 18 hrs a day lying on bed like lazy fuk) and I hope this reply somehow helps OP too.
Update holy shit I went back to lying on my bed while compulsively editing my comment without even realizing it and now I'm lying here in a weird contorted position with my spine all crooked while I type this on my stupid phone. I swear man opioids and pot and alcohol—clean now—got nuthin on the comorbid depression/digital-stimulation-addiction, fuck
 
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DarkNearDeath

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Roll over until you fall, that's one way of getting off it!
 
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Maybe a well placed hand grenade. You might go through the window but at least you'll be out of bed. We'll, some of you will.
 
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Yeah, digital stuff makes everything harder.
I was a NEET for 3 years. I just can't believe I was able to get out of there but I know that if I get depressed enough, things will be even worse than those days!!
This is a daily struggle and you a need a very strong mindset, which I know it's not easy to get.
Meds sometimes help. In my case, bupropion also gave me the push I needed.
Like a growth mindset? Or a meaning & purpose kinda thing? Those would be helpful for motivation, instead of the little nihilist/hedonist on my shoulder constantly whispering ' nothing matters, what are the chances you'll get better when you've tried everything? Just don't try to do or not to do anything, if you habitually lie in bed all day on media, eating ice-cream in the afternoon at your mothers house at 30 years old, who cares. Doesn't matter' — but I know I'd be less miserable if I functioned enough to take care of myself better. And that DOES matter to me but there's a brick wall of executive dysfunction and dysphoria and reading about the science of willpower, depression, adhd, addiction, etc., and seeing therapist twice a week, and a psych, being on Adderall, Zoloft, Clonidine, having tried Wellbutrin, lexapro, celexa, Prozac, guanfacine, Straterra, ability, pristique, Effexor, lamictal, trazodone, rTMS, etc, trying meditation and mindfulness, bublabubla etc etc etc. pretty sure there's some brain damage from a head injury and I want a PET scan but stupid insurance, so anyway, might see about going off Adderall for a few weeks of abject terrifying hell and then try it again if the psych doesn't see my inability to do this on my own as a sign to stop forever that is. It's weird I don't have the abuse tendencies with it even tho the less dopaminergic pot and opioids are super addicting for me, but still if I try to skip a daily dose I feel the most intense discomfort and don't want to do anything or not do anything. Sorry for ramble, usually not too social but I'm like hypomanic rn
Roll over until you fall, that's one way of getting off it!
Jest or not, ima try this. Fuck it, it's something I haven't tried so why not
 
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Like a growth mindset? Or a meaning & purpose kinda thing? Those would be helpful for motivation, instead of the little nihilist/hedonist on my shoulder constantly whispering ' nothing matters, what are the chances you'll get better when you've tried everything? Just don't try to do or not to do anything, if you habitually lie in bed all day on media, eating ice-cream in the afternoon at your mothers house at 30 years old, who cares. Doesn't matter' — but I know I'd be less miserable if I functioned enough to take care of myself better. And that DOES matter to me but there's a brick wall of executive dysfunction and dysphoria and reading about the science of willpower, depression, adhd, addiction, etc., and seeing therapist twice a week, and a psych, being on Adderall, Zoloft, Clonidine, having tried Wellbutrin, lexapro, celexa, Prozac, guanfacine, Straterra, ability, pristique, Effexor, lamictal, trazodone, rTMS, etc, trying meditation and mindfulness, bublabubla etc etc etc. pretty sure there's some brain damage from a head injury and I want a PET scan but stupid insurance, so anyway, might see about going off Adderall for a few weeks of abject terrifying hell and then try it again if the psych doesn't see my inability to do this on my own as a sign to stop forever that is. It's weird I don't have the abuse tendencies with it even tho the less dopaminergic pot and opioids are super addicting for me, but still if I try to skip a daily dose I feel the most intense discomfort and don't want to do anything or not do anything. Sorry for ramble, usually not too social but I'm like hypomanic rn

Jest or not, ima try this. Fuck it, it's something I haven't tried so why not

I really like your way of thinking!!

As for the mindset, mmm, I guess I'm referring to the growth one.
I'm obsessed with trying to find the true meaning and purpose of this life and universe but the more I read, the less I believe there's any of those and I just end up more confused. It gets me really mad that we're just some kind of accidental apes who shouldn't be existing and will probably never understand ANYTHING.

However, I think if you really work hard and do your best, things can get better. At least that's what's happening to me.

You know, it seems very easy right?
For instance, are you fat? Just eat healthy food and exercise everyday.
Are you single? Just install lots of dating apps until you find your ideal girl/guy!
Are you sad? Just go to a party and meet people!
Do you hate your job? Quit and get a new one!!!

Sounds veeeeeeery easy but our minds are not so nice and love to torment us and make us stay in a bed while crying and thinking about ctb.

I think if I could be constant at having a normal life, I could really live for some more decades but I don't think I will be able to do it lol.
 
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I just can't get up and don't know when or if this will end. Any suggestions please!!!
Surely you need to at least get up to use the bathroom right? If you're somehow able to do so without leaving the bed honestly you've already won at life and no one should be making you feel bad about not leaving.
 
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what language was it?
I will answer instead. It's Japanese. Am I right? lol

As for me the only thing what helps me get up is that I don't want to receive questions why I'm like this.

My mum and especially grandma are very persistent and they wouldn't stop ask me until I will say it. And I know their opinion on suicide, so I just can't tell them.
 
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For a quick fix you can always try legal stimulants, such as a strong dose of Siberian ginseng. They can be found on eBay and other online marketplaces and sometimes even in regular health stores. They're cheap so you don't really have anything to lose by trying them.
 
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IsThisTheEnd?

Mange
Aug 6, 2020
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Thanks guys xxx I have actually felt better the last couple of hours, there was a documentary on UK TV about John Lennon got up watched that, was pretty good, just have to try! and get up tomorrow.
 
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Thanks guys xxx I have actually felt better the last couple of hours, there was a documentary on UK TV about John Lennon got up watched that, was pretty good, just have to try! and get up tomorrow.
remember that its ok to fall down, you can always try again tomorrow :hug:
 
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I really like your way of thinking!!

As for the mindset, mmm, I guess I'm referring to the growth one.
I'm obsessed with trying to find the true meaning and purpose of this life and universe but the more I read, the less I believe there's any of those and I just end up more confused. It gets me really mad that we're just some kind of accidental apes who shouldn't be existing and will probably never understand ANYTHING.

However, I think if you really work hard and do your best, things can get better. At least that's what's happening to me.

You know, it seems very easy right?
For instance, are you fat? Just eat healthy food and exercise everyday.
Are you single? Just install lots of dating apps until you find your ideal girl/guy!
Are you sad? Just go to a party and meet people!
Do you hate your job? Quit and get a new one!!!

Sounds veeeeeeery easy but our minds are not so nice and love to torment us and make us stay in a bed while crying and thinking about ctb.

I think if I could be constant at having a normal life, I could really live for some more decades but I don't think I will be able to do it lol.
Thanks, just doing my best to respond to life I guess.

If I recommended any good idea for having a sense of meaning & purpose it would be some kinda social connection... But I'm sure everyone here already knows that that's part of the problem, right? I mean, most of us who came here probably don't have a plethora of friends and family who will unconditionally understand, accept, and validate their struggles & suicidalness lol..., I'm glad to find SS—it was actually some critical publicity that introduced me to it, or was it Reddit comments first and then negative articles about it I read afterward idk.

You're no longer NEET which probably gives you some opportunity for a social life or no?

That's good that things are getting better and hopefully they continue to as much as possible.

That was an excellent way of describing how simple but daunting it is to make healthy changes. Like, it's kinda fucked that it's 1000 times more fun to eat junk, smoke, isolate w video games, than it is to exercise, meet people, eat healthy; evolution didn't prepare us for this shit haha- oh & especially with adhd which is not what you wanna have in a world of taxes and bills and stop signs..
 
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I feel you, because I was in such state for 1,5 year. I used to lay on bed 24/7. I had no motivation to get out of it and I had awful back pain. Seems that meds helped me a little, now I do half-day work from home. I really thought that those my state will be forever, I was suffering from obsessive suicidal thoughts, but now after 1 year therapy I feel better. Hope that you will get well too.
 
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LittleJem

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I've been bedridden and got blamed for it, as if I'd choose to not be able to get out of bed, to not be able to make myself a cup of tea.

My housemate who I'm kind of in love with is pretty bedridden with Bipolar and his medication. It's upsetting to watch, as he has to take sedatives and other medication that makes him sleep a lot.

The thing helping me atm is 30mg of Ketamine every other day. It's helped my depression a lot. I am still agitated, but I can get out of bed and function. So if it combines well with your other medication and you can source it on the black market, that is my top tip to try.

The other thing that can help is Modafinil.

In my experience, being bedridden is chemical, so don't blame yourself. I hope you feel better.
 
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I've been bedridden and got blamed for it, as if I'd choose to not be able to get out of bed, to not be able to make myself a cup of tea.

My housemate who I'm kind of in love with is pretty bedridden with Bipolar and his medication. It's upsetting to watch, as he has to take sedatives and other medication that makes him sleep a lot.

The thing helping me atm is 30mg of Ketamine every other day. It's helped my depression a lot. I am still agitated, but I can get out of bed and function. So if it combines well with your other medication and you can source it on the black market, that is my top tip to try.

The other thing that can help is Modafinil.

In my experience, being bedridden is chemical, so don't blame yourself. I hope you feel better.

Thank you. It IS chemical/disability. I'm sick of the "lazy" argument. Surely if we were lazy, we'd just check out of the hard/boring parts of life as opposed to life altogether? We'd ever keep ourselves clean and do the bare minimum showering etc. Society is so damn ignorant. And the medical system/NHS is miles behind.
 
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When when I had a conversation with my therapist about the same basic question they said that there's no silver bullet solution and that the most important part was coming to the understanding that "it's a part of who you are right now". It confused the hell out of me at the time, but I kind of get it now. I was so focused on the end goal and being at that destination that I wasn't able to step forward. Long story short, I bought a few PS4 games and a gaming laptop and watched a shit ton of anime for a few weeks and was l the most unproductive I have ever been, but at the same time accepted that it was all that I was capable of at that time. After a few weeks, things honestly got kind of boring and gradually I started to go out and do things and interests just slowly started to return.


Also Wellbutrin. It's hard to stay in bed on Wellbutrin.
 
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Remember when you would have had to to use the computer? Before that go to the postbox to send a letter
 
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IsThisTheEnd?

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I'm in and out of this at the moment, I've just had a boost, I'm gonna get healthy again but it tends to creep up on me, I haven't been able to get up before 11 since writing this post.
 
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I'm in and out of this at the moment, I've just had a boost, I'm gonna get healthy again but it tends to creep up on me, I haven't been able to get up before 11 since writing this post.
Thats ok too take it easy not all days have to be a good day
 
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I just can't find any interest in anything, my brain has gone into a strange state.
same here. I couldn't give a fuck, but at the same time I feel shame and guilt. I am so fucking angry I have to play this game.
 
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Remember when you would have had to to use the computer?
Last year I had a volunteer job and since it required use of the computer I was forced to get out of bed.

Now that I don't have a volunteer job I spend my time in bed except for exercising and showering. I think learned helplessness plays a large part in my lack of desire to leave the bed. When I am able to leave the bed and inevitably fail at dealing with people I think "what purpose is there in leaving bed?".
 
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I just can't get up and don't know when or if this will end. Any suggestions please!!!
I posted a similar thread "can't get out of bed" an hourish ago…
I hope you're feeling better and was wondering if you were ever able to get out of bed ?
I've been bedridden and got blamed for it, as if I'd choose to not be able to get out of bed, to not be able to make myself a cup of tea.

My housemate who I'm kind of in love with is pretty bedridden with Bipolar and his medication. It's upsetting to watch, as he has to take sedatives and other medication that makes him sleep a lot.

The thing helping me atm is 30mg of Ketamine every other day. It's helped my depression a lot. I am still agitated, but I can get out of bed and function. So if it combines well with your other medication and you can source it on the black market, that is my top tip to try.

The other thing that can help is Modafinil.

In my experience, being bedridden is chemical, so don't blame yourself. I hope you feel better.
I try ketamine infusions at a clinic but they can get expensive. Where can you get ketamine every other day? That would help a TON. Also thanks for the suggestion of modafinil will look into it
 
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