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disabledlife

disabledlife

Arcanist
Jun 5, 2020
436
Me: Do we have the right to commit suicide?

ChatGPT:
As a language model, I don't have personal opinions or beliefs. However, I can tell you that the right to commit suicide is a complex and controversial issue that varies across different countries and cultural contexts. In some countries, suicide is considered illegal, while in others it is decriminalized. In still others, there is no specific law addressing the issue. There are also ethical, moral, religious, and medical considerations surrounding the issue of suicide. Ultimately, the issue of whether one has the right to commit suicide is a matter of ongoing debate and discussion.

Me: Does my existence belong to me?

ChatGPT:
The concept of ownership over one's own existence is a philosophical and legal question that has been debated by thinkers for centuries. There are different perspectives on this issue, but one common view is that individuals have the right to determine their own lives and make choices about their own bodies and existence, as long as they do not harm others. This idea is often related to the concept of personal autonomy, or the right to self-determination. However, it's worth noting that some societies and cultural traditions place limits on personal autonomy, either through laws or moral codes, which can impact the extent to which individuals have control over their own existence.

Me: Does my life belong to me?

ChatGPT:
The concept of whether a person's life belongs to them is a philosophical and moral question that has been debated for centuries. Different philosophical and religious traditions have different views on this issue.

One common view is that individuals have the right to determine their own lives and make choices about their own bodies and existence, as long as they do not harm others. This idea is often related to the concept of personal autonomy, or the right to self-determination.

However, it's worth noting that some societies and cultural traditions place limits on personal autonomy, either through laws or moral codes, which can impact the extent to which individuals have control over their own life. Additionally, there are moral and ethical considerations that come into play when making decisions about one's own life, such as the responsibilities we have to others and to the wider community.
 
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ksp

ksp

Arcanist
Oct 1, 2022
435
'Does my life belong to me?'

One common view is that individuals have the right to determine their own lives and make choices about their own bodies and existence, as long as they do not harm others.
no, this is not 'one common view' - this is THE ONLY VIEW !

this is the only valid and logical conclusion - this is not debatable, and there are no exceptions - period.


all other view are invalid:
Different philosophical and religious traditions have different views on this issue.
any philosophy that doesn't respect my basic human right is irrelevant - i own my life!
(religious views are beyond ridiculous and laughable - dismissed from the start; nothing logical about them)

this is my consciousness, and my subjective existence, and no one elses'


However, it's worth noting that some societies and cultural traditions place limits on personal autonomy, either through laws or moral codes, which can impact the extent to which individuals have control over their own life. Additionally, there are moral and ethical considerations that come into play when making decisions about one's own life, such as the responsibilities we have to others and to the wider community.

'However, it's worth noting that…' - anything after this is invalid (there is no "However, …"):

'some societies and cultural traditions place limits on personal autonomy'
- nothing in universe can place limits on my personal autonomy - my autonomy is my responsibility
- i own my life, and society has no business in interfering with my right
- my autonomy includes all my privileges - and my responsibilities
- i don't have the right to interfere with someone else's personal autonomy / rights
- i can't impose my views on others - my views are my own
—- if others ask my opinion - i offer it, but i won't pressure them (they are free to disagree)

'laws or moral codes, which can impact the extent to which individuals have control over their own life'
- all laws (in all countries) must respect my fundamental right of autonomy
- i have my own moral and ethical codes:
—- i don't need to follow a religion to know the difference between 'good and bad'
-— or to understand the difference between an outstanding citizen and a criminal
—- if i am free - in a free society, i know how to behave in order to belong in it
—- if i get sent to prison, i receive the punishment - i'm responsible for my own actions

'Additionally, there are moral and ethical considerations that come into play when making decisions about one's own life, such as the responsibilities we have to others and to the wider community.'
- i don't live my life for the wider community - i am responsible for my life, not the community
- i don't live my life for my family, partner, friends, priest, or politicians
- i live my life for ME:
—- if i can help the wider community - i will, but if i can't - i won't
—- i was born alone, and i will die alone
- nothing comes 'into play' when making decisions about my own life - nothing !
—- do i have the moral responsibility to participate in a war ?!
—- do i have the moral responsibility to kill another person, in the name of war ?!
—- should have the higher moral ground (a 'hero') when i kill a lot of 'enemies' - other human beings ?!
—- do i need a god to tell me that it is wrong to kill another human being ?!?
—- society has a lot of immoral defects
- morals are just tools, often used by leaders and religion - manipulators


@disabledlife - thank you for giving me the opportunity to invalidate an AI !
(regarding 'the right to commit suicide': if my autonomy is respected, i will have the right to end my life)


ps. i'd like to see a rebuttal that logically refutes my absolute autonomy! (i double-dare it :)
 
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charon

charon

plural, they/she, ΘΔ
Feb 25, 2023
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any philosophy that doesn't respect my basic human right is irrelevant - i own my life!
(religious views are beyond ridiculous and laughable - dismissed from the start; nothing logical about them)

this is my consciousness, and my subjective existence, and no one elses'
while we agree with the conclusion that humans most certainly deserve complete bodily autonomy, it does not change that this has not been the sole conclusion around the world for all of time. history matters because it has lasting impact on us now, and informs how and why societal changes have and will continue to happen. other cultures and different times have had, and still do hold vastly different values than current western cultures focus on individual freedom. even now those old values are passed down without giving thought to their worth, or how they harm all of us in this new context that we all live in. if suicide wasnt taboo and we were all able to communicate freely about this and related subjects the world would be a vastly more free place.

certainly beyond any of us to claim to be the ideal future, however given current western values youre doing quite well. bodily autonomy that doesnt impact others certainly seems like the gold standard.
 
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