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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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I know this question sounds ridiculous but I really ask myself whether he would judge me badly for it.

I was in a religious class for christians. I can remember 5-6 religion teachers. Some were conservative some rather liberal.
I already wrote in detail about how I learned in religion class for the first time about assisted suicide. And developed my personal stance on it. I always thought it is horrible that we leave suicidal people alone with that. We as society often abandon these people and look away. Exactly in this moment these people need help the most. People feel forced to jump in front of trains or other very horrible and cruel ways. This cannot be right.
At least this is my opinion.

The teacher I think about the most is quite young. He learned about my mental breakdown in school. I am not sure how much the school knew about my suicidality.
But they learned I seemingly fully recovered. This was an illusion from my deep depression I just switched into a new manic episode. But noone knew that to that time.
I think the school must have known about my suicidality. But I cannot say for sure. Maybe I have a cognitive bias about that. I was slightly paranoid to that time.

The teacher was pretty cool. He once asked us whether we really believe in God. And openly said you won't will receive any bad repercussion. I think he asked that prior to my mental breakdown. From a a scale between 1-10 we should position us. You truely believe in God for 1 and 10 you are convinced he does not exist. (Maybe the scale was the other way round). I cannot remember my answer but I think I gave an 8. So I barely believed in God. During my major depression I was on a 10. Now I am again at maybe 8 I would say.

I can remember after my severe depression with suicidality he asked me whether this experience changed my relation to God and religion. (it sounded like maybe religion might gave you strength.)
I was not direct with that. But later I revealed to him that I turned deeply atheistic by this experience. He had to laugh about my answer. As I said he is a cool guy. He did not know the following though. During my first major depression I had horrible nightmares about hell. I felt so guilty for being suicidal. Losing all of my religious beliefs helped me. The nightmares about hell got less which was a relief.

Some years later my best friend met him. The teacher asked about my well being. And my best friend responded that I relapsed. Some time afterwads I met the teacher. Maybe this is somewhat paranoid but I had the feeling he ignored me. I felt really horribly depressed to that time. I had the feeling he was disappointed that I threw away the gift of a full revovery. Though I have to say this thought sounds kind of paranoid due to the fact we did not speak from person to person.

So what would he say about or to me for being in this forum? Maybe he would worry about me in the first place. Maybe he would try to give me a guilty conscience I don't know. I really try to provide recovery resources and I really did that. I am just too fragile to live without this forum. Venting and crying about my horrible life gives me a relief. Kind of ironic because he imagined religion would give me that strength. I don't deny religion can have that role but it just did not work for me.

I know this thread sounds ridiculous but it was interesting to reflect on my emotions about it.
 
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Nov 25, 2021
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Where I grew up (not US), education moved away from religion as I moved up in schools. I still had a Religious Studies teacher in secondary, but I can't remember a single lesson other than the teacher was pretty. When thinking back like this, I would say try not to feel guilty about feeling suicidal. That's what this introspection sounds like.
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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Are you still religious?
No I am not.
Maybe this thread sounds like I feel guilty for writing here.
The main reason for that is that the media depicts the members (or many of them) as evil monsters.
And I really dislike to be described as an evil demon.

But maybe some part of it also was influenced by my somewhat religious education.
 
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StrangeAndDeath

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Oct 12, 2022
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No I am not.
Maybe this thread sounds like I feel guilty for writing here.
The main reason for that is that the media depicts the members (or many of them) as evil monsters.
And I really dislike to be described as an evil demon.

But maybe some part of it also was influenced by my somewhat religious education.
Ah.
I asked cause I was religious myself, and didn't want to inadvertently influence your faith in anyway. But I understand the situation here. I don't have religious teachers I'm close to or know about my suicidal thoughts.

But I have a friend who is still religious and he knows I don't like life, but he doesn't know I'm actively suicidal. I don't tell him my plans because I don't want him to know that I'm atheist now or that I'm trying to kill myself because it may complicate an otherwise lovely relationship with him and he MAY involve my family or other religious people.
I don't have the patience that I used to and I'll just tell them all to fuck off, or ask them for a gun so I can meet "God" and hear his thoughts on the matter lol. The fallout of such a statement would likely make life far more terrible than it already is.
 
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I'm a failure. An absolute waste. A LOSEr.
Apr 6, 2021
652
I've talked about her before, but I was close with my English teacher in high school - Kirsten. She was very religious, but, ironically, very open minded. It's actually her that.. Made me not so antagonistic to religious people.

She knows I'm suicidal, she knows about this place, she knows even about my self harm scars.. She's seen them. And her thoughts is that she understands that things like this happen to people like me. She, admittedly, hasn't ever felt suicidal thus far, but her friends have been... Had to talk one of them out of it.

Of the multiple people I know who are religious, only 2 people including Kirsten are actually.. Understanding about suicide things.. I find that sad. I often wish people were more like Kirsten.
 
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I know this question sounds ridiculous but I really ask myself whether he would judge me badly for it.

I was in a religious class for christians. I can remember 5-6 religion teachers. Some were conservative some rather liberal.
I already wrote in detail about how I learned in religion class for the first time about assisted suicide. And developed my personal stance on it. I always thought it is horrible that we leave suicidal people alone with that. We as society often abandon these people and look away. Exactly in this moment these people need help the most. People feel forced to jump in front of trains or other very horrible and cruel ways. This cannot be right.
At least this is my opinion.

The teacher I think about the most is quite young. He learned about my mental breakdown in school. I am not sure how much the school knew about my suicidality.
But they learned I seemingly fully recovered. This was an illusion from my deep depression I just switched into a new manic episode. But noone knew that to that time.
I think the school must have known about my suicidality. But I cannot say for sure. Maybe I have a cognitive bias about that. I was slightly paranoid to that time.

The teacher was pretty cool. He once asked us whether we really believe in God. And openly said you won't will receive any bad repercussion. I think he asked that prior to my mental breakdown. From a a scale between 1-10 we should position us. You truely believe in God for 1 and 10 you are convinced he does not exist. (Maybe the scale was the other way round). I cannot remember my answer but I think I gave an 8. So I barely believed in God. During my major depression I was on a 10. Now I am again at maybe 8 I would say.

I can remember after my severe depression with suicidality he asked me whether this experience changed my relation to God and religion. (it sounded like maybe religion might gave you strength.)
I was not direct with that. But later I revealed to him that I turned deeply atheistic by this experience. He had to laugh about my answer. As I said he is a cool guy. He did not know the following though. During my first major depression I had horrible nightmares about hell. I felt so guilty for being suicidal. Losing all of my religious beliefs helped me. The nightmares about hell got less which was a relief.

Some years later my best friend met him. The teacher asked about my well being. And my best friend responded that I relapsed. Some time afterwads I met the teacher. Maybe this is somewhat paranoid but I had the feeling he ignored me. I felt really horribly depressed to that time. I had the feeling he was disappointed that I threw away the gift of a full revovery. Though I have to say this thought sounds kind of paranoid due to the fact we did not speak from person to person.

So what would he say about or to me for being in this forum? Maybe he would worry about me in the first place. Maybe he would try to give me a guilty conscience I don't know. I really try to provide recovery resources and I really did that. I am just too fragile to live without this forum. Venting and crying about my horrible life gives me a relief. Kind of ironic because he imagined religion would give me that strength. I don't deny religion can have that role but it just did not work for me.

I know this thread sounds ridiculous but it was interesting to reflect on my emotions about it.
I have went through severe mental traumas. I understand how it is like to be mentally tormented over and over again. now I have come to a point where it is unbearable and suicide is the only thing in my mind. I planned to leave for good very soon. but I am not blaming god for the terrible mental and physical sufferings of the past 14 years. he has given me eternal life. I will stick to that belief what ever I do. god never promised any body relief and peace in this world. but only if you can see beyond this momentary world and focus on eternal life you understand you were not destined for this. I am no longer telling my self to endure the pain I know I cant but I know I can never lose my faith. what ever I do I will never stop believing in Jesus. this is how I reconcile suicide with believing in Jesus. I am suicidal ( already set a day) but I am still a suicidal believer. I know when I met my god I will find relief I will forget this devilish world and be with him in peace forever. I strongly and out of concern recommend any one who have decided to end their life to think about afterlife and see if they want to give god a chance to enter their life. I always think about the person who was crucified on the right side of Christ. in his last hours he was not thinking about the past or the present but the future. and ask Jesus to consider him in his future kingdom. and Jesus replied to him you will be with me in paradise today. I believe he will treat us, desperate souls any differently if we have the courage to ask him the same question.
 

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