I am getting fed up of Anti lockdown supporters exploiting mentally ill

[FireFox]

In the UK we have anti lockdown political commentars like Alison Pearson and anti lockdown supporters on social media constantly sharing stories of people who killed themselves during lockdown or struggled with mental illness.It is so disgusting

It disgusts me seeing people exploitating suicides that happened in lockdown because these were the same people who participated and perpuated a system that treats suicidal people which no compassion and dignity

Before the pandemic came people didn't care about mentally ill people and just saw them as an inconvenience. If a person admitted they were struggling with mental illness generally they are treated with no compassion for their suffering. The common pharse every mental ill person hears is " suicide is so selfish what's wrong you" or " people have it worse than you". Before the pandemic came nobody cared about the outcasts of society because it didn't effect them. These anti lockdown people who use mental health to argue against lockdown are only caring about mental health because they are inconvenienced. There is difference between struggling with lockdown and suffering an actual mental illness. When the pandemic is over they will forget these mentally ill people they claimed to about.

Suicide is so complex only the individual knows why they chose to end their life.

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

In the UK we have anti lockdown political commentars like Alison Pearson and anti lockdown supporters on social media constantly sharing stories of people who killed themselves during lockdown or struggled with mental illness.It is so disgusting

It disgusts me seeing people exploitating suicides that happened in lockdown because these were the same people who participated and perpuated a system that treats suicidal people which no compassion and dignity

HAHA, right? All of a sudden when it would benefit them, they give a shit about suicidal people!!! This world is Hell.

 

[waitingforrest]

Yes! There has always been issues with the system, it's just they are talking about it more because they are stuck at home where they have nothing better to do.

If I f**king hear, "Covid has been hard for everyone." I'm gonna snap.

It's hard for us every single day Covid or not.

 

[seaweaves]

It disgusts me seeing people exploitating suicides that happened in lockdown because these were the same people who participated and perpuated a system that treats suicidal people which no compassion and dignity

I'm in a different part of the world, but this line especially for me: those who are anti-lockdown on the grounds of their alleged liberties and rights (there are many reasons they could be anti, but the loudest ones are of this type) tend to be so focused on individuals and selves that they don't usually attend to the social contexts, community coalitions, and systems of social power, etc that tend to influence mental wellness. But, when it serves their interests to align with disenfranchised and vulnerableized peoples for the optics of their campaign, suddenly it's easy to pay attention to social circumstance. I'll believe it moreso when they start donating their wealth, time, labour, and care to the community activisms that they're pretending to align with, and not just when they parade around with megaphones near my local parliaments with their angry faces on.

 

[FireFox]

I'm in a different part of the world, but this line especially for me: those who are anti-lockdown on the grounds of their alleged liberties and rights (there are many reasons they could be anti, but the loudest ones are of this type) tend to be so focused on individuals and selves that they don't usually attend to the social contexts, community coalitions, and systems of social power, etc that tend to influence mental wellness. But, when it serves their interests to align with disenfranchised and vulnerableized peoples for the optics of their campaign, suddenly it's easy to pay attention to social circumstance. I'll believe it moreso when they start donating their wealth, time, labour, and care to the community activisms that they're pretending to align with, and not just when they parade around with megaphones near my local parliaments with their angry faces on.

@seaweaves In the UK when lockdown measures were ending these anti lockdown people were just enjoying the end of the restrictions. I didn't see anyone talk,about mental health after restrictions were relaxing everyone just moved on as if there was no lockdown.

I am very anti lockdown and used to spend time on online fourms that are critical of lockdowns but I just found it so disgusting and exploitative of the lockdown suicide stories they regularly shared on the fourm. I found the stories they shared about child suicides just disgraceful.

I became disillusioned with the anti lockdown movement because of the sheer exploitation of mentally ill people. It makes me so furious because suicide is complex to blame lockdown I don't think it's fair. People who suicidal it normally builds up for a long period of time until a person can no longer cope anymore. If there was no lockdown it is very hard to tell whether that suicidal person would be alive or not. You can tell what is really happening in someone's mind.

My depression at 21 and I became fully suicidal 22 and beyond. At 30 I plan to kill myself because I don't want to live to see another decade. Nothing and nobody can save me. Suicide is complex and the human mind is cruel. I am so and tired of mental health being used as a weapon to oppose lockdown by people who never cared about mentally ill people.

 

[FireFox]

Yes! There has always been issues with the system, it's just they are talking about it more because they are stuck at home where they have nothing better to do.

If I f**king hear, "Covid has been hard for everyone." I'm gonna snap.

It's hard for us every single day Covid or not.

@waitingforrest Exactly I am getting fed up of hearing the pharse "we are in this together" because we are Not in this together. The Lockdowns effected people differently. In lockdown there people who did struggle but there also people whoose lives who just stayed pretty much the same so were not badly effected by the changes.

During valentines day when the UK was in lockdown 3 couples were sharing their stories with the media about being lonely this valentines day without their partner due to the rules.It really made me angry because there people out there who have endured loneliness for years and nobody cared about their struggle and loneliness.

I am getting sick of this bullshit fake concern about mental health and loneliness because for years wider society and the general public never cared about the outsiders, of the world.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

Personally I feel they're more on our side because the government never took mental illness into consideration when initiating the lockdowns. And that was what sickened me.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

A lot of it is faux concern enshrined in the propogation of a political position, you're right about that. Many people's existing issues were exacerbated by lockdowns, yet I don't even see one notable politician who is addressing the root causes, besides a couple ministers in Japan who want to create supportive community groups for NEETs and isolated people.

Sadly a lot of people in the political camp you're referrering to would have called struggling people weak pussies prior to covid, whilst blaming them for being unable to cope with an increasingly stressful and unstable world. They are only doing a total 180 now because they've had a taste of the forced solitude that numerous people have to permanently deal with on a daily basis, in the shadows, with no support from the outside world whatsoever. Unfortunately, this camp are pretty much the only ones advocating to stop the constant discrimination/hateful rhetoric against unvaccinated people, even if such a sentiment is unpopular, so at least they aren't completely unwilling to go against status quo.

It sucks, because this is a once in a life time opportunity for very different varieties of people to band together and address some deeply rooted systemic issues underlying the lack of socioeconomic support in modern cultural dynamics. There's a lot of common ground to be had here.

However, a lot of anti-lockdown people had great lives before the lockdowns, and they want nothing more than to go back to that era where everything was normal and progressing smoothly for them. I've seen many comments on news articles where people lament restrictions ruining their previously thriving businesses, their relationships within church and religious circles, educational prospects due to being unable to adjust to online learning formats, etc.

Issues like that were a direct consequence of lockdowns, not a re-opening of existing wounds. There's hope that the damage can be undone for individuals in those situations, once governments get off their assess and properly resolve the economic damage that's been done to many people who lost their source of income, or couldn't progress in their education due to the sharp decline in quality. However for a good chunk of us, our wounds will never be cauterized, for those injuries occured long before covid and restrictions ever existed.

I've always been isolated because I'm autistic and have several disabilities that impair my ability to function. Before covid, no one could fathom that it would be easier for me to do certain things online than show up in person whilst experiencing horrible physical pain. Pragmatic solutions to help disabled individuals weren't ever a thought, until the whole world suffered the same inconveniences that people like me have always had to "just deal with."

You'd think that such a massive disruption to everyone's lives would impart more compassion in the souls of those who never had to experience significant mental, physical, or social struggles prior to 2019/2020. However, all that's seemed to come out of this is more proselytising of empty platitudes, advertisements for useless mental health charities, and support for the notion that the majority of problems are temporary and require no long term solutions.

It sucks, because there are important conversations to be had about the impact of things like lockdowns/ prolonged periods of isolation on mental health, but it's hard for many to fathom that such issues existed before lockdowns too. Those writing on anti-lockdown newspapers and forums tend to be very normie typically I've noticed, just from reading comments in the news, and lack a lot of empathy when it comes to disabled, mentally, physically ill people (especially when ME/CFS or long covid is brought up, they pretend it doesn't exist)

I don't know if there is a solution, especially when things are extremely polarized in the current climate. You're either completely pro something or anti something, no nuance exists.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

Personally I feel they're more on our side because the government never took mental illness into consideration when initiating the lockdowns. And that was what sickened me.

No truer words were spoken!

It was NEVER about the virus. It was about increasing government control and undermining Trump. Democrats, including those running my state (hence my username) made it LOOK LIKE they were protecting the population, but the jig was up the whole time, at least for people like me. So it's a given that people's mental health was the least of their worries. And after I realized that the lockdowns had no definite end date, I realized that I'd rather be dead than live that way for months, and joined this site. I was happy to learn there were simple, yet mildly painful methods, like ___ and ___.

What I also joined was a radical right-wing group a few weeks later. They didn't buy into the Democrats' bullshit any more than I did, and were happy to continue to socializing. Which meant I got to go to their parties. The first time I went, it was almost better than sex! The only collateral damage is losing my liberal friends; I cut them out of my life after I saw their feel-good Facebook posts, like "stay home, save lives".

 

[Sprite_Geist]

There are always individuals and groups who try to use other more marginalized, and often smaller groups of people to benefit their own goals. They are not interested in you as a person; they are interested in what you can offer, and only at a time which is convenient for them. Here are some examples:

Before an immigration wave: "I have no sympathy for homeless people. They should stop being lazy and get a job!"
After an immigration wave: "These damn foreigners move over here and get everything for free! We can't even help our own (homeless) people!"

Before a person commits suicide: "Go away. Your suicidal behaviour is making me feel uncomfortable."
After a person commits suicide: "They're dead?!? I had no idea! Why didn't they open up?"

Before an abortion: "It's not my problem if families are struggling to support their own children."
After an abortion: "This is murder! All life is precious and must be protected at all costs!"

@waitingforrest Exactly I am getting fed up of hearing the pharse "we are in this together" because we are Not in this together.

We are in this together... until somebody falls down - literally or figuratively - then they are on their own.

 

[Lost Magic]

Well Allison Pearson works for the conservative right winged rag in Britain called The Daily Mail (or as I like to call it The Daily Fail). Honestly Conservatives are some of the most cruel, selfish, uncaring cretins there is. I remember when the Prime Minister Boris 'The Clown' Johnson said that all you have to do is work off your depression like Winston Churchill did. I mean the audacity of these privileged toffs scolding people who have mental and/or physical health problems is absolutely disgusting. I swear if they could get away with it, they would have certain members of society thrown back to work houses like in the Victorian era.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

I remember when the Prime Minister Boris 'The Clown' Johnson said that all you have to do is work off your depression like Winston Churchill did.

Boris Johnson is in no freaking way a conservative! I watched the news, and saw what he did. He was salivating with joy like a maniac, as he locked down Britain, imprisoned people in their homes, and destroyed small businesses, all to show "how much he cares". All while having crowded, maskless parties himself, like all hypocritical liberals do, including Dementia Joe himself. At least he didn't sponsor Antifa, like American liberal politicians did.

(Disclaimer: I'm using the words "liberal" and "conservative" as understood in the US; UK definitions may vary.)

And how in the world did a British prime minister get a name like "Boris"? His parents must have been fans of Boris Yeltsin, or something. Who, by the way, was a total wackjob, and a liberal one at that! He turned Russia into an impoverished, crime-filled wasteland, that didn't recover until long after year 2000.

 

[Samsal112]

Anybody else feel like Covid helps their depression? I feel guilty laying around all day, watching tv, staying at home, and not wanting to socialize. Finally, the rest of the world was forced to live like I have been. I didn't feel so guilty doing those things anymore.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

Anybody else feel like Covid helps their depression? I feel guilty laying around all day, watching tv, staying at home, and not wanting to socialize. Finally, the rest of the world was forced to live like I have been. I didn't feel so guilty doing those things anymore.

That makes one of us! Staying home all day, doing nothing but watching TV, and not being able to see my friends in person (at least until I joined a right-wing group that wasn't scared of a silly Biden Virus, and made new friends there) was what drove me to this site. I didn't want to live like that, and preferred to CTB instead.

 

[noaccount]

I'm in a different part of the world, but this line especially for me: those who are anti-lockdown on the grounds of their alleged liberties and rights (there are many reasons they could be anti, but the loudest ones are of this type) tend to be so focused on individuals and selves that they don't usually attend to the social contexts, community coalitions, and systems of social power, etc that tend to influence mental wellness. But, when it serves their interests to align with disenfranchised and vulnerableized peoples for the optics of their campaign, suddenly it's easy to pay attention to social circumstance. I'll believe it moreso when they start donating their wealth, time, labour, and care to the community activisms that they're pretending to align with, and not just when they parade around with megaphones near my local parliaments with their angry faces on.

YES thank you.

There's nothing "FEEL-GOOD" about "stay home, save lives," lmao, it's a fucking real pragmatic response to a dire fucking situation.
(One which, I should not, the Liberals have entirely abandoned now as the spineless business-as-usual bootlickers that they are.)

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

There's nothing "FEEL-GOOD" about "stay home, save lives," lmao, it's a fucking real pragmatic response to a dire fucking situation.

Well... when I went to that party with my radical right-wing group I had just joined, that DEFINITELY "felt good". Hehe! I got more handshakes, hugs, and snuggly dances at that party alone that I did in months prior, even before the Biden Flu hysteria started. I also made out (UK: snogged) with a woman there, WITHOUT a mask on! All while my liberal friends were having their cringeworthy Zoom gaming sessions all by their lonesomes.

Anthony Fauci was REALLY kissing my sweaty, hairy butt that night, while I kept farting in his face.

 

[noaccount]

Well... when I went to that party with my radical right-wing group I had just joined, that DEFINITELY "felt good". Hehe! I got more handshakes, hugs, and snuggly dances at that party alone that I did in months prior, even before the Biden Flu hysteria started. I also made out (UK: snogged) with a woman there, WITHOUT a mask on! All while my liberal friends were having their cringeworthy Zoom gaming sessions all by their lonesomes.

Anthony Fauci was REALLY kissing my sweaty, hairy butt that night, while I kept farting in his face.

Get more angry.

Keep pretending that everyone who hates you is a liberal.

Dumbass calling "stay home save lives" a "feel good" slogan. Can you get more delusional.

None of us are liberals you idiot.

Biden is doing more to spread the plague than Trump ever could.

 

[rex_deceptorum]

Maybe so, but ALL people are like that! Whatever the cause, you and I are just pawns in someone's agenda. People do not really care about strangers! That said, lockdowns will make everything worse for all of us. Unless you intend to check out tomorrow, you should oppose them, because they will bring down civilisation by wrecking the economy. I cannot abide pro-,ockdown morons, especially now when we have vaccines, and I've told them often enough not to come whining when they are starving and homeless due to the economic collapse. In fact I told them I will be laughing at them if they ever do.

Also, maybe I don't care since I don't have mental illnesses, eo I cannot really be offended by someone "exploiting" me. I never benefited from either therapy or anyone's (feigned) concern for my mental health. I am just fed up with living in this Absurdistan. My contempt for the human race has only deepened because of this pandemic.

 

[noaccount]

Maybe so, but ALL people are like that! Whatever the cause, you and I are just pawns in someone's agenda. People do not really care about strangers! That said, lockdowns will make everything worse for all of us. Unless you intend to check out tomorrow, you should oppose them, because they will bring down civilisation by wrecking the economy. I cannot abide pro-,ockdown morons, especially now when we have vaccines, and I've told them often enough not to come whining when they are starving and homeless due to the economic collapse. In fact I told them I will be laughing at them if they ever do.

Also, maybe I don't care since I don't have mental illnesses, eo I cannot really be offended by someone "exploiting" me. I never benefited from either therapy or anyone's (feigned) concern for my mental health. I am just fed up with living in this Absurdistan. My contempt for the human race has only deepened because of this pandemic.

The total number of dialysis patients living in the country has gone down for the first time in over forty years, because so many of them were killed by the coronavirus.

 

[rex_deceptorum]

The total number of dialysis patients living in the country has gone down for the first time in over forty years, because so many of them were killed by the coronavirus.

If dark humor is your self-therapy, then more power to you, but if we are being serious, this pandemic brought nothing but pain, misery, and disability . Nothing good will ever come out of it!

 

[noaccount]

If dark humor is your self-therapy, then more power to you, but if we are being serious, this pandemic brought nothing but pain, misery, and disability . Nothing good will ever come out of it!

No, I don't find anything humorous about this. You can google it if you think I'm making it up for some reason.
You're pushing policies that directly lead to these people being killed off. Fuck yourself.

 

[rex_deceptorum]

No, I don't find anything humorous about this. You can google it if you think I'm making it up for some reason.
You're pushing policies that directly lead to these people being killed off. Fuck yourself.

We have vaccines, and lockdowners could not care less about people dying. They only want to control others- just like fanatical pro-lifers. Complete strangers could not care less about you or me. No one does! If you want draconian policies , introduce vaccine mandates! Antivaxxers are just as bad as lockdown fans!

 

[noaccount]

Huh ok, I'm glad you're apparently at least not an anti-vaxxer.
People with the vaccine are still getting omicron though. Hospitals are again being flooded with cases. People are waiting for days for ICU care and never getting it, so many healthcare workers fucking died that there aren't enough left to attend to people in hospitals right now, and they're being forced into triage situations (deciding who gets life-saving care and who doesn't) because there aren't enough beds, staff, or supplies to go around for all the people who are being hospitalized with covid.
The dialysis thing is not a joke either.

They Were the Pandemic’s Perfect Victims

The pandemic killed so many dialysis patients that their total number shrunk for the first time in nearly half a century. Few people took notice.

www.propublica.org

 

[rex_deceptorum]

Huh ok, I'm glad you're apparently at least not an anti-vaxxer.
People with the vaccine are still getting omicron though. Hospitals are again being flooded with cases. People are waiting for days for ICU care and never getting it, so many healthcare workers fucking died that there aren't enough left to attend to people in hospitals right now, and they're being forced into triage situations (deciding who gets life-saving care and who doesn't) because there aren't enough beds, staff, or supplies to go around for all the people who are being hospitalized with covid.
The dialysis thing is not a joke either.

They Were the Pandemic’s Perfect Victims

The pandemic killed so many dialysis patients that their total number shrunk for the first time in nearly half a century. Few people took notice.

www.propublica.org

Omicron is far less dangerous than previous variants (even for the unavaccinated), and two doses prevent most hospitalisations, while three ward off even mild symptoms. Omicron panic is unwarranted.

 

[noaccount]

Yet death rates are not falling and the number of hospitalizations is still overwhelming the medical system and leaving people who would otherwise live to die because they can't recieve treatment on time. It's not panic about what *might* happen, it's the real harm of what *is happening now*. Look, the original SARS had a death rate of TWENTY PERCENT, whereas the first rate of COVID had a mere TWO. But the original SARS never became a pandemic on this level, never caused this scale of devestation, because it was much less contagious. COVID-first-wave despite being much "less deadly" PERCENTAGE WISE caused many more deaths because it spread quickly, and Omicron is spreading much faster than *that*, so even if it's less-deadly-by-percent that doesn't assure us of less harm. And the decoupling of COVID rates and death rates that we see in France and South Africa is just not happening in the U.S. - ie death rate is staying what it's been - partly because of anti-vaxxers here, partly because of less social distancing and masking than is practiced in those countries, partly because our healthcare system sucks worse, partly because we have an older population.

State of Affairs: Jan 10

The world reported more than 9.5 million cases last week, which is a 71% increase compared to the previous week. Although the greatest increase is still in the Americas (+100%), every region in the world now has increasing case trends. (Notice the y-axis is different for each region in the...

yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

We have vaccines, and lockdowners could not care less about people dying. They only want to control others- just like fanatical pro-lifers. Complete strangers could not care less about you or me. No one does! If you want draconian policies , introduce vaccine mandates! Antivaxxers are just as bad as lockdown fans!

That's what I knew since the pLandemic started. It was NEVER about the virus. It was about increasing government control, and later laying groundwork for the Great Reset---courtesy of George Soros. Besides, liberal politicians who once pushed for lockdowns with foam at their mouths like rabid dogs, are now catching Covid themselves; looks like the predator became the prey.

I'm indifferent about vaccine mandates. I got my vaccines, both the original and the booster, soon after I became eligible for them. It keeps me partially safe, but the best part is rubbing it into the liberals' smug, masked faces. Whether or not the government passes vaccine mandates, it doesn't make a lick of difference to me.

 

[lmon]

Eh, I probably wouldn't have had my mental breakdown if it wasn't for the lockdown. So I guess I'm biased.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

There's nothing "FEEL-GOOD" about "stay home, save lives," lmao, it's a fucking real pragmatic response to a dire fucking situation.
(One which, I should not, the Liberals have entirely abandoned now as the spineless business-as-usual bootlickers that they are.)

If "stay home, save lives" isn't feel-good, just wait 'til you hear "alone together"! Or worse, "quaranteam"!

 

[noaccount]

Pediatric hospitalizations are up drastically, higher numbers of children are being admitted to hospital with pneumonia:

State of Affairs: Pediatrics and Omicron

Si quiere leer la versión en español, pulse aquí.

yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com

 

[FireFox]

Boris Johnson is in no freaking way a conservative! I watched the news, and saw what he did. He was salivating with joy like a maniac, as he locked down Britain, imprisoned people in their homes, and destroyed small businesses, all to show "how much he cares". All while having crowded, maskless parties himself, like all hypocritical liberals do, including Dementia Joe himself. At least he didn't sponsor Antifa, like American liberal politicians did.

(Disclaimer: I'm using the words "liberal" and "conservative" as understood in the US; UK definitions may vary.)

And how in the world did a British prime minister get a name like "Boris"? His parents must have been fans of Boris Yeltsin, or something. Who, by the way, was a total wackjob, and a liberal one at that! He turned Russia into an impoverished, crime-filled wasteland, that didn't recover until long after year 2000.

I am f*cking disgusted at the Boris Johnson. He has absolutely no respect for the British public and holds us all to contempt. People were banned from seeing family, unable to give their loved ones a dignified funeral to say goodbye and so many things people were prohibited from doing because of this lockdown Boris imposed.

This whole time this is lying piece of sh*t was having a party and enjoying himself while we were confind to our homes. He even has the bloody cheek to go to live tv and say it is a work meeting and he even said he didn't know.
He wants us to believe he didn't know there was a party in his OWN HOUSE.

He is an evil piece of sh*t. That garden party is physical manifestation of his true character which is he believes the lockdown rules he made don't apply to him and for the little British people.
The garden party was safe for him but not safe for the British public.
F*ck you Boris Johnson.