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Humanity should go extinct
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Would anyone care to explain why humanity should not go extinct as soon as possible? We are nothing more than consuming, reproducing bags of flesh with fanciful delusions of grandeur. Is another Beethoven symphony worth all of the suffering in the world?
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I agree with everything that you said. Humans like to think they are doing something so big but inherently all they're doing is destroying everything in its wake.
I wouldn't care to explain why we shouldn't. But I could think of many reasons why we SHOULD. It's probably coming soon anyways, maybe even in our lifetime.
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I wouldn't care to explain why we shouldn't. But I could think of many reasons why we SHOULD. It's probably coming soon anyways, maybe even in our lifetime.
No unless they want to. Most people love consuming, reproduce and have fanciful delusions of grandeur. And that's their right after all. Just because I hate life doesn't mean all mankind should die with me. That would be delusions of grandeur :)
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No unless they want to. Most people love consuming, reproduce and have fanciful delusions of grandeur. And that's their right after all. Just because I hate life doesn't mean all mankind should die with me. That would be delusions of grandeur :)
Not die with you, die out via voluntary extinction.
We have a very serious problem with suffering on this planet, and when you birth a being you are not in control of the course of their life, which could be one of unreal levels of suffering as can be seen here, on this forum, a tiny place among many places of suffering that exist on this planet.
Right on. I try not to be super die hard about it and force my opinion on others. But I'm pretty open about how I feel about it. I think it's incredibly selfish and irresponsible to gamble with someone's life for your own personal wants and biological desires.
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Right on. I try not to be super die hard about it and force my opinion on others. But I'm pretty open about how I feel about it. I think it's incredibly selfish and irresponsible to gamble with someone's life for your own personal wants and biological desires.
Well don't worry because when this central banking system cannot be sustained anymore people will be culled dramatically. It is already happening but so far it's still hideable. But I mean u see it in big cities the massive inequality. The ever increasing cost of living and it will continue to rise because of the corrupt banking system. Meddling in the economy by the ruling class to manipulate the economy to where it benefits them but not most average people. I doubt we will go extinct as a species anytime soon but I know white people are going extinct because we are targeted by these ruling elite for destruction in our formerly white majority countries.
Not long ago I proposed that decreasing birth rates in the Western world is happening due to some cosmic force that is seeking balance upon the universe. I missed the mark. The force is not something cosmic or metaphysical, but human. After studying the evidence, it's clear that there is a conscious
The whole "Extinction Rebellion" thing makes me chuckle. Like, by all accounts human extinction would be a GOOD thing. We should start a pro- extinction movement. "Extinction Acceptance" or something.
The whole "Extinction Rebellion" thing makes me chuckle. Like, by all accounts human extinction would be a GOOD thing. We should start a pro- extinction movement. "Extinction Acceptance" or something.
Say I believe in god (I don't). Say it's 50/50. Half the people are suffering & not wanting life, half really value & appreciate their existence& want to continue. Who's too say which half should get their desire. Would "god" decide, who should decide? An antinatlist on a suicide forum? Id prefer just to make myself extinct not all of the people I know that do actually enjoy their life. Why should I decide for them. I only want to decide to opt out for myself.
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Say I believe in god (I don't). Say it's 50/50. Half the people are suffering & not wanting life, half really value & appreciate their existence& want to continue. Who's too say which half should get their desire. Would "god" decide, who should decide? Id prefer just to make myself extinct not all of the people I know that do actually enjoy their life. Why should I decide for them. I only want to decide to opt out for myself.
Say I believe in god (I don't). Say it's 50/50. Half the people are suffering & not wanting life, half really value & appreciate their existence& want to continue. Who's too say which half should get their desire. Would "god" decide, who should decide? Id prefer just to make myself extinct not all of the people I know that do actually enjoy their life. Why should I decide for them. I only want to decide to opt out for myself.
Everyone that has existed and is existing did not ask to be born. Without their consent.
Have a read on antinatalism.
Everyone is suffering to some degree. They either choose to ignore it or cope with it.
They're still suffering either way.
Say I believe in god (I don't). Say it's 50/50. Half the people are suffering & not wanting life, half really value & appreciate their existence& want to continue. Who's too say which half should get their desire. Would "god" decide, who should decide? An antinatlist on a suicide forum? Id prefer just to make myself extinct not all of the people I know that do actually enjoy their life. Why should I decide for them. I only want to decide to opt out for myself.
Everyone that has existed and is existing did not ask to be born. Without their consent.
Have a read on antinatalism.
Everyone is suffering to some degree. They either choose to ignore it or cope with it.
They're still suffering either way.
I have read a lot about it & many people that didn't choose to be born still really appreciate their life, I know loads of people that really bloody love life a lot!! Antinalism is just one philosophical concept & not everyone believes it or fits into its general premise. The times of suffering I had in the past made moments of joy & contentment all the more valuable & I appreciated both states of being (for a time) Obvs when suffering out weighs the times of non- suffering u might want out- but this not the state of many people's lives, only some.
I have read a lot about it & many people that didn't choose to be born still really appreciate their life a lot, I know loads of people that really bloody love life a lot!! Antinalism is just philosophical concept & not everyone believes it or fits into its general premise. The times of suffering I had in the past made moments of joy all the more valuable & I appreciated both states for a time. Obvs when suffering out weighs the times of non- suffering u might want out- but this not the state of many people's lives only some.
The point is: nonexistence harms no-one, existence harms everyone, even if your life goes as well as it can practically go. Also, the severe suffering of one sentient being is not worth any of the happy happy joy joys you seem to love.
You choose to bring children into this world well aware of the suffering that would await them, including death. Now you are on a suicide forum planning to leave them your melting heart?
I have read a lot about it & many people that didn't choose to be born still really appreciate their life, I know loads of people that really bloody love life a lot!! Antinalism is just one philosophical concept & not everyone believes it or fits into its general premise. The times of suffering I had in the past made moments of joy & contentment all the more valuable & I appreciated both states of being (for a time) Obvs when suffering out weighs the times of non- suffering u might want out- but this not the state of many people's lives only some.
Oh shit I actually meant to change this one! Yeah it is pretty bad/ sad isn't it! Sorry :/
That means they enjoy the moments. It doesn't mean they enjoy their whole life in general. If life was so enjoyable, you wouldn't have to enjoy moments. There would be no need to tell people to enjoy the 'little things or little moments'
The point is: nonexistence harms no-one, existence harms everyone, even if your life goes as well as it can practically go. Also, the severe suffering of one sentient being is not worth any of the happy happy joy joys you seem to love.
You choose to bring children into this world well aware of the suffering that would await them, including death. Now you are on a suicide forum planning to leave them your melting heart?
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