How would your ideal heaven look like?

[leavingthesoultrap]

You die and you find yourself in paradise. How would that look like?

 

[Saturn_]

A world where it's eternally 2004-2012. Life is eternally innocent and joyful, the Internet didn't turn to complete and utter crap, and I live with the person I love in a nice little house together. He works on his animations, I draw and write and sing and play my guitar. Sometimes all our friends come over and we all hang out and have fun. None of us are lonely, suicidal or suffering anymore, and everyone has everything they could possibly want. We're all happy. Maybe unextraordinary, but I can't really think of anything else I really would want.

 

[burntboy]

A world where it's eternally 2004-2012. Life is eternally innocent and joyful, the Internet didn't turn to complete and utter crap, and I live with the person I love in a nice little house together. He works on his animations, I draw and write and sing and play my guitar. Sometimes all our friends come over and we all hang out and have fun. None of us are lonely, suicidal or suffering anymore, and everyone has everything they could possibly want. We're all happy. Maybe unextraordinary, but I can't really think of anything else I really would want.

i feel this

 

[derpyderpins]

Thinking about specifics is so hard, because with unlimited potential there are many, many lives I'd like to try and many things I'd want to do. Picking one option and calling it ideal is impossible for me. On the other hand this is a real monkey's paw bait question I've thought about too much. Eternity is a long time to be in a single situation. That rules out the perverted options I'm obviously considering because . . . eventually enough is enough, right?

So, I have a thought to make it something where I am like god, and I can materialize anything and change the world as I want. . . but that means everyone else I interact with would be behaving according to my whims and I'd essentially be alone.

One I think about is being in the world of Pokemon, which is basically a high-tech socialist utopia where you never have to work, just be better at fighting pokemon than other people and you'll have tons of money. The issue is, if everyone is basically an NPC, I'll be the lone conscious human. If they have full consciousness, I run into the same problem as in life: they will outwork me and get better. I won't be like the protagonist, I'll get left in the background and it will just become a drag.

Maybe just a life where I'm in my favorite town with my favorite people. No pain or hunger. We none have to work, the town somehow just operates. We can go down to my favorite bar and play Smash Brothers all the time if we want. We would need something to work towards, so maybe we'll have to learn to code to make our own advancements in tech and gaming, and we'd have to make our own music.

Idk. Maybe the best answer is "A world where I know the best answer to this question and have the power to implement it."

 

[thot88]

Forever an opiate in the cloud. And together with loved ones without old age and illness. And I would know all the riddles of the universe

 

[Yavannah]

A world where it's eternally 2004-2012. Life is eternally innocent and joyful, the Internet didn't turn to complete and utter crap, and I live with the person I love in a nice little house together. He works on his animations, I draw and write and sing and play my guitar. Sometimes all our friends come over and we all hang out and have fun. None of us are lonely, suicidal or suffering anymore, and everyone has everything they could possibly want. We're all happy. Maybe unextraordinary, but I can't really think of anything else I really would want.

this sounds so peaceful & pure ..

 

[Hunter2005]

I would like mine to have mountains and have a cabin with a bunch of dead celebrities I relate to idk why but that what I can think of.

 

[FuneralCry]

All that's ideal to me is eternal nothingness, all that I wish for is the permanent absence of all suffering and harm. I'd never wish to be conscious and aware under any circumstances, I simply just wish to cease existing where all is finally forgotten about, existing will always be completely undesirable to me, I only find comfort in the thought of permanently ceasing to exist.

 

[tary]

The way I see it, any sort of eternal existence would by its nature eventually become torture. So the only permanent solutions to the problems of existence would be endless forgetful reincarnation into different situations around the universe with breaks and rest in heaven in between lifetimes, and what @FuneralCry said: some kind of unconscious existence or a lack of any existence whatsoever.

 

[Lost Magic]

It would be a place of peace, tranquility and justice for all. It would be free from ego and hatred.
It would look like a Viktor Yushkevich painting and feel like a warm bath.

 

[targz]

All that's ideal to me is eternal nothingness, all that I wish for is the permanent absence of all suffering and harm. I'd never wish to be conscious and aware under any circumstances, I simply just wish to cease existing where all is finally forgotten about, existing will always be completely undesirable to me, I only find comfort in the thought of permanently ceasing to exist.

Agreed, I don't think there exists a concept of heaven so perfect it's better than nothing. Eternal bliss is basically taking away humanity, thought, awareness etc. and at that point you might as well just go the whole way.

 

[sserafim]

Thinking about specifics is so hard, because with unlimited potential there are many, many lives I'd like to try and many things I'd want to do. Picking one option and calling it ideal is impossible for me. On the other hand this is a real monkey's paw bait question I've thought about too much. Eternity is a long time to be in a single situation. That rules out the perverted options I'm obviously considering because . . . eventually enough is enough, right?

So, I have a thought to make it something where I am like god, and I can materialize anything and change the world as I want. . . but that means everyone else I interact with would be behaving according to my whims and I'd essentially be alone.

One I think about is being in the world of Pokemon, which is basically a high-tech socialist utopia where you never have to work, just be better at fighting pokemon than other people and you'll have tons of money. The issue is, if everyone is basically an NPC, I'll be the lone conscious human. If they have full consciousness, I run into the same problem as in life: they will outwork me and get better. I won't be like the protagonist, I'll get left in the background and it will just become a drag.

Maybe just a life where I'm in my favorite town with my favorite people. No pain or hunger. We none have to work, the town somehow just operates. We can go down to my favorite bar and play Smash Brothers all the time if we want. We would need something to work towards, so maybe we'll have to learn to code to make our own advancements in tech and gaming, and we'd have to make our own music.

Idk. Maybe the best answer is "A world where I know the best answer to this question and have the power to implement it."

What's your favorite town?

 

[derpyderpins]

What's your favorite town?

I'll DM. Can't say without giving personal info.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

As I've always said, the final version of heaven in the show The Good Place is THE ideal afterlife. It even gives you an option to cease to exist peacefully and immediately.

If I can't have that then my personal ideal Heaven would probably just be some kind of typical harem isekai anime with myself as the protagonist. Pretty cringe.

 

[LaughingGoat]

I know it sounds like what "pro-lifers" tell you, but it is true that pleasures and happiness exist relatively to pain and suffering. If someone had no concept or contact with negative experiences, then it significantly limits the enjoyment of "good" experiences. A base example would be if you played a sport where you literally won every game 100-0, you wouldn't actually enjoy winning. So while paradise would be enjoyable initially, 500 years into it I believe you would at best just be bored and desensitized to endless pleasure.

 

[derpyderpins]

If I can't have that then my personal ideal Heaven would probably just be some kind of typical harem isekai anime with myself as the protagonist. Pretty cringe.

lol not cringe, based. Those are basically all power-trip heaven fantasies anyway.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

The way I see it, any sort of eternal existence would by its nature eventually become torture. So the only permanent solutions to the problems of existence would be endless forgetful reincarnation into different situations around the universe with breaks and rest in heaven in between lifetimes, and what @FuneralCry said: some kind of unconscious existence or a lack of any existence whatsoever.

Maybe we stay in heaven only for a limited time until our souls recharge. It's a big mystery

 

[KillingPain267]

You die and you find yourself in paradise. How would that look like?

According to the Bible, redeemed humans actually don't go to heaven. Instead, believers are promised a physical resurrection of their bodies to live on a "new earth" where the laws of physics are changed back to how it was in the garden of Eden before sin. So pain, sorrow and death are removed. But before the resurrection occurring at the end of the world, when a human dies, they just rot in a grave unconscious.

 

[tary]

Maybe we stay in heaven only for a limited time until our souls recharge. It's a big mystery

Yeah. I take it from your name that you've thought about the Prison Planet theory as well. I think it's plausible and I think avoiding reincarnation at least for a while after dying couldn't hurt. But I feel like I'd eventually (possibly after aeons) come crawling back with my tail between my legs to some sort of reincarnation scheme or another, just to escape being eternally conscious.

 

[KillingPain267]

I know it sounds like what "pro-lifers" tell you, but it is true that pleasures and happiness exist relatively to pain and suffering. If someone had no concept or contact with negative experiences, then it significantly limits the enjoyment of "good" experiences. A base example would be if you played a sport where you literally won every game 100-0, you wouldn't actually enjoy winning. So while paradise would be enjoyable initially, 500 years into it I believe you would at best just be bored and desensitized to endless pleasure.

That is untrue. Children often enjoy life more than adults despite not having faced adult drudgeries yet. Example: children enjoy playing with toys or watching cartoons on both weekdays and weekends. According to your logic adults would enjoy entertainment more because they have experienced boring work. Of course you have a point ultimately, but that is because we live in this universe now with its specific laws of physics. But it's not hard to imagine how there could be a different universe with creatures who have brains that can only enjoy pleasure. There is a reason why we seek pleasure and seldomly seek pain.

 

[ctbcat]

i get to meet the dead people i'm so grossly infatuated with, get to actually know them beyond my gruelling projections, get to love them as disgusting as my intensive capacity of feeling is...

when it comes to appearance, usually i imagine endless stars, grassy terrain, quartz palaces, somewhere spaced out and mostly quiet. i would like to think you stumble across things rather than just being surrounded by them. i think that's just because i always desire peace though. i don't think i've ever had peace. quiet, yes. but not peace

 

[Onelegman]

 

[LaughingGoat]

That is untrue. Children often enjoy life more than adults despite not having faced adult drudgeries yet. Example: children enjoy playing with toys or watching cartoons on both weekdays and weekends. According to your logic adults would enjoy entertainment more because they have experienced boring work. Of course you have a point ultimately, but that is because we live in this universe now with its specific laws of physics. But it's not hard to imagine how there could be a different universe with creatures who have brains that can only enjoy pleasure. There is a reason why we seek pleasure and seldomly seek pain.

Most babies literally come out of the womb crying, children experience suffering even if they have what could be considered a good childhood. I would 100% argue 1) that adults appreciate pleasures on a more complex level than children 2) much of children's brains are not yet developed so they do not have the same need of purpose, fulfillment, and varied experiences.

 

[KillingPain267]

Most babies literally come out of the womb crying, children experience suffering even if they have what could be considered a good childhood. I would 100% argue 1) that adults appreciate pleasures on a more complex level than children

I know, but I just made a comparison, not an absolute statement of "children don't suffer".

 

[avalonisburning]

It's an infinite void, and I have the ability to fill anything with anything.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways and ideas.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

Yeah. I take it from your name that you've thought about the Prison Planet theory as well. I think it's plausible and I think avoiding reincarnation at least for a while after dying couldn't hurt. But I feel like I'd eventually (possibly after aeons) come crawling back with my tail between my legs to some sort of reincarnation scheme or another, just to escape being eternally conscious.

I find prison planet interesting, but I don't subscribe to it as the ultimate truth. It might be another psyop to keep us frightened and small.

 

[karmaisabitch]

I'm not thinking that far! I just want to leave here whatever is there after I'm sure it's better than this darkness.

 

[dolemitedrums]

The physical description wouldn't matter so much, though sure I would like for it to be beautiful. I just want to see the people I love and have lost again.