Discussion How to avoid being sectioned?

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I am desperate. I feel like my life and freedom are out of my control. Anyone have experience in avoiding getting sectioned?

 

[Custos]

Honestly, just be honest with everyone. Being sectioned isn't the worst thing that can happen to you. And you can always appeal it if you want to.

 

[995.]

Say you want to get help and get better/recover. It's hard, they can see through bullshit

 

[KillingPain267]

I'm in the same boat, but still have my freedom for now. Freedom loss is the worst! Contrary to what others said here, do NOT tell anyone you are suicidal. In some places it leads people to have the right to restrain you because "you're a harm to self and others". And being in a psych ward is NOT fun nor does it actually help you. Rationally suicidal people like us cannot be helped. We are at rock bottom. For some, not even drugs can lift our moods, and if they can, come with dire health consequences.

 

[Custos]

I'm in the same boat, but still have my freedom for now. Freedom loss is the worst! Contrary to what others said here, do NOT tell anyone you are suicidal. In some places it leads people to have the right to restrain you because "you're a harm to self and others". And being in a psych ward is NOT fun nor does it actually help you. Rationally suicidal people like us cannot be helped. We are at rock bottom. For some, not even drugs can lift our moods, and if they can, come with dire health consequences.

Got to disagree with you there, psych wards are there for people to get better. Tell them during the MHA how you're really feeling, most people here are not "rationally suicidal", most people can get better, psych wards do help. Also you're not restrained on psych wards and antidepressants don't have dire health consequences.

 

[KillingPain267]

Got to disagree with you there, psych wards are there for people to get better.

Santa Claus is also the one putting gifts under the trees. Psych wards are archaic institutions there to hide away and restrain people who don't fit into society but are also not criminal in the eyes of the law. So basically a purgatory.

most people here are not "rationally suicidal",

Maybe a lot have psychotic episodes of delusions were they shit themselves while believing goblins have possessed the souls of extraterrestials. But those are actually few. Most suicidal people have depression or addiction issues, and the last place for them to get better is to be hauled off by the pigs into a ward full of these temporarily irrational patients. Many describe psych wards as traumatic. I was in one after a little panic from a bad psychedelic trip, and I seriously thought they would help me. My stay wasn't even that bad, I had my own room. But I was left there sitting and crying on a chair for hours and then later hyperventilating until my hands went numb and twisted, and all they said was to just calm down. It WAS a cry for help, but problem is, there is no help for some people, not that psychiatry knows of yet. All I got was half a benzo to fall asleep to. Alcohol in pill form. The psychiatric field is not much further developed than somewhere right after the dark ages.

Also you're not restrained on psych wards

In some places

and antidepressants don't have dire health consequences.

I know, I didn't mean antidepressants (which do barely jack shit on people like us though, and I've tried many, but that's another story). I mean hard drugs like alcohol, cocaine and opiates which many mentally ill folks self-medicate with, THOSE have dire consequences if used, but for some even those drugs lose their effects (euphoric reliefs of depression and anxiety lessen quickly). So once even hard drugs wear off, it's rock bottom for the uncurable.

 

[Custos]

Santa Claus is also the one putting gifts under the trees. Psych wards are archaic institutions there to hide away and restrain people who don't fit into society but are also not criminal in the eyes of the law. So basically a purgatory.

Maybe a lot have psychotic episodes of delusions were they shit themselves while believing goblins have possessed the souls of extraterrestials. But those are actually few. Most suicidal people have depression or addiction issues, and the last place for them to get better is to be hauled off by the pigs into a ward full of these temporarily irrational patients. Many describe psych wards as traumatic. I was in one after a little panic from a bad psychedelic trip, and I seriously thought they would help me. My stay wasn't even that bad, I had my own room. But I was left there sitting and crying on a chair for hours and then later hyperventilating until my hands went numb and twisted, and all they said was to just calm down. It WAS a cry for help, but problem is, there is no help for some people, not that psychiatry knows of yet. All I got was half a benzo to fall asleep to. Alcohol in pill form. The psychiatric field is not much further developed than somewhere right after the dark ages.

In some places

I know, I didn't mean antidepressants (which do barely jack shit on people like us though, and I've tried many, but that's another story). I mean hard drugs like alcohol, cocaine and opiates which many mentally ill folks self-medicate with, THOSE have dire consequences if used, but for some even those drugs lose their effects (euphoric reliefs of depression and anxiety lessen quickly). So once even hard drugs wear off, it's rock bottom for the uncurable.

Psych wards are there to help people, to keep people safe, to assess peoole, to give them to best medication, to have non-pharmacitical interventions.

Maybe people describe psych wards as traumatic because they are going through a traumatic time in their lives. Most the people I see who think they should not be there, and would be better off alone, are delusional, including those with ideations. I've see people who are suicidal, who had tried to abscond, who have been put on level 4 and who have got better.

Granted a lot of staff are blind, I've been able to self-harm for hour and hours and hours at a time without staff noticing, I've been able to steal knives and needles. But still most the nurses do care

As for the non-prescription medication, yes, those would have dire consequences. But you're not going to get those on a psych ward, the right medication plus non-pharmacitucal interventions help most people.

I know what forum this is, and it's a bit hypocritical coming from me, but CTB is not the answer for most people, and most certainly only a answer as a last resort in exceptional circumstances.

Don't give up, there is always hope, you can get better.

And if anyone's wondering I've spent 10+ months on psych wards, and counting.

 

[KillingPain267]

Psych wards are there to help people, to keep people safe, to assess peoole, to give them to best medication, to have non-pharmacitical interventions.

Maybe people describe psych wards as traumatic because they are going through a traumatic time in their lives. Most the people I see who think they should not be there, and would be better off alone, are delusional, including those with ideations. I've see people who are suicidal, who had tried to abscond, who have been put on level 4 and who have got better.

Granted a lot of staff are blind, I've been able to self-harm for hour and hours and hours at a time without staff noticing, I've been able to steal knives and needles. But still most the nurses do care

As for the non-prescription medication, yes, those would have dire consequences. But you're not going to get those on a psych ward, the right medication plus non-pharmacitucal interventions help most people.

I know what forum this is, and it's a bit hypocritical coming from me, but CTB is not the answer for most people, and most certainly only a answer as a last resort in exceptional circumstances.

Don't give up, there is always hope, you can get better.

And if anyone's wondering I've spent 10+ months on psych wards, and counting.

So you've been to many wards and say things can get better, yet you are also here. Sorry, but suicide is a rational decision when nothing else can sustainably keep down the pain. Also, society still has a big list of undesirables if they were honest. Why not just give them euthanasia instead of endless psych ward visits? Why don't these wards pick up all the homeless and veteran and unemployed and junkies and treat them with a bed and some cures?

 

[Custos]

So you've been to many wards and say things can get better, yet you are also here. Sorry, but suicide is a rational decision when nothing else can sustainably keep down the pain. Also, society still has a big list of undesirables if they were honest. Why not just give them euthanasia instead of endless psych ward visits? Why don't these wards pick up all the homeless and veteran and unemployed and junkies and treat them with a bed and some cures?

Suicide is a battle, a battle that maybe people don't win, a battle that I myself might not win. But that doesn't mean that everyone is going to succumb to it, or that it's the right option for them.

 

[KillingPain267]

Suicide is a battle, a battle that maybe people don't win, a battle that I myself might not win. But that doesn't mean that everyone is going to succumb to it, or that it's the right option for them.

It is the best option for me. Has been for over 24 months now.

 

[Custos]

It is the best option for me. Has been for over 24 months now.

Well wishing you luck in whatever you decide to do, but don't give up, be strong.

 

[KillingPain267]

Well wishing you luck in whatever you decide to do, but don't give up, be strong.

I've been strong, but at some point grip is lost. Even the brave Samurai knew when the battle is impossible to win.

 

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They sectioned me. I don't think there was anything I could've done. They already made their minds up.

 

[RegretedFeeling]

I want a lawyer, I want an internal review board and I want my cell phone or a computer to look up my rights. Thatll do it

 

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I want a lawyer, I want an internal review board and I want my cell phone or a computer to look up my rights. Thatll do it

In the process of getting a solicitor and am getting the paperwork ready for tribunal. Luckily, no restrictions on my phone. Unfortunately no laptop and the internet here is garbage.

I'm so done. I'm imprisoned without breaking the fucking law. I don't understand how anyone can think that this is helpful. It is in no one's best interest for me to be here.

 

[RegretedFeeling]

In the process of getting a solicitor and am getting the paperwork ready for tribunal. Luckily, no restrictions on my phone. Unfortunately no laptop and the internet here is garbage.

I'm so done. I'm imprisoned without breaking the fucking law. I don't understand how anyone can think that this is helpful. It is in no one's best interest for me to be here.

I wouldn't fight it, it hasn't helped me at all. I almost got formed today by police, it's not good that I can talk myself out of possible help,